Proglodyte eager to run out of other people's money

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

ND-Dem (2,443 posts)

Rauner asks for 7 billion in cuts to health, pensions, universities, transit and cities
   
epublican Gov. Bruce Rauner on Wednesday dubbed his first spending plan a “turnaround budget” for a financially shaky state, but Democrats rebuffed his proposed cuts to health care for the poor, government worker pensions, state universities, mass transit and cities across Illinois..
 
“This is our last, best chance to get our house in order,” the governor declared during a speech that drew tepid applause from the lawmakers he addressed. “Let’s get it done, together.”

Rauner went after some of state government’s political sacred cows: Medicaid; money for Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s beleaguered city budget; the CTA and Metra; public employee health insurance and retirement benefits; and the University of Illinois.

All of those interests sounded dire warnings and geared up their powerful lobbying operations to fight the proposed budget. Some Democratic leaders reacted angrily to the rookie governor’s address, harking back to his days as a partner in a private equity investment firm.

“One of the things Gov. Rauner has to learn is the Illinois Constitution refers to the General Assembly and the governor as partners,” said Rep. Lou Lang, D-Skokie. “He wants to run the government like it's a business, we're middle management, and he's the CEO, and we must take orders. That's not going to work.”

But Senate Republican leader Christine Radogno said Wednesday that Rauner’s call to cut the budget should not have come as a surprise.

“I think people understand that Illinois is in dire circumstances and we absolutely need to change the way we do things,” said Radogno, of Lemont. “This is the starting gun, not the checkered flag.”

The governor also wants to hire 473 more guards at state prisons...The biggest and perhaps most controversial item on Rauner’s budget agenda was his call to shift current public employees on July 1 into a lower-tier pension classification for new hires that provides vastly reduced retirement benefits...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/chi-bruce-rauner-state-budget-speech-20150218-story.html#page=1


Rauner v. Jerry Brown: Which state do you want to live in? Which country do you want to live in?

What world do you want to live in? The world of slaves, or the world of free people?

Not discussed: Can the taxpayer's afford it?

The last line, bolded for emphasis, is the most telling. Freedom and slavery are delineated by whether or not public employees. without regard to their necessity, competency or efficiency, are getting defined benefit packages that no private sector investor could hope to achieve in the best of worlds.

"But we were promised!"

They're liars.

You're idiots.

All of you are greedy in your own way.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026251707

[HawkHogan]

Someone dependant on the government is essentially a Slave.

[Carl]

Their definition of a free person is one that does not have to work for a living.

[thundley4]

What world do you want to live in? The world of slaves, or the world of free people?

We're either going to be "slaves" to a business unless working for yourself, or you're  going to be a slave to government through taxation/fees/regulations. If you work for yourself, you still answer to the government.

Democrats have had sole control of Illinois and all they have done is **** it up.  A few years ago they jacked up income tax rates and swore they do something about the debt and the public pensions. 

They did, they spent more and increased the debt, and did nothing about the pensions.  Chicago is so ****ed up they need a bailout from the state and the state can't afford it.

[wasp69]

D-Dem (2,443 posts)

...Democrats rebuffed his proposed cuts to... government worker pensions...
 
Rauner went after some of state government’s political sacred cows:  ...public employee health insurance and retirement benefits...

All of those interests sounded dire warnings and geared up their powerful lobbying operations to fight the proposed budget. Some Democratic leaders reacted angrily to the rookie governor’s address, harking back to his days as a partner in a private equity investment firm.

The biggest and perhaps most controversial item on Rauner’s budget agenda was his call to shift current public employees on July 1 into a lower-tier pension classification for new hires that provides vastly reduced retirement benefits...

So, an adult is trying to maintain solvency of the state and keep at least some tax payer goodies flowing, but the liberal children are howling that the checkbook is being taken away?  Now where have we seen that before?

*cough* Detroit *cough*

But I personally love this mouth-breather's example of good governance:

Rauner v. Jerry Brown: Which state do you want to live in? Which country do you want to live in?

What world do you want to live in? The world of slaves, or the world of free people?

Moonbeam's California?  Are you sure that's the "world of free people", DUmmie?

California's pension liability growing by billions
Systems carry $198 billion in unfunded liability in 2013

Published  1:55 PM PST Nov 14, 2014

With each passing year, California taxpayers are increasingly liable for billions of dollars more to cover retirement benefits for police, firefighters, teachers and other public employees, according to a massive amount of pension data recently released by the state Controller's Office.

A decade of financial data posted by Controller John Chiang on his open data website, ByTheNumbers.sco.ca.gov, shows that the state's 130 public pension systems is carrying $198 billion in unfunded liability in 2013, compared with $6.3 billion of unfunded liability in 2003.

http://www.kcra.com/news/californias-pension-liability-growing-by-billions/29726920

Heh...

[obumazombie]

Their definition of a free person is one that does not have to work for a living.

That sentence has me thinking.
I know that many libs would love to leech off society and not have to work.
But what about the ruling class ?
They cannot have their power without "working".

[Carl]

That sentence has me thinking.
I know that many libs would love to leech off society and not have to work.
But what about the ruling class ?
They cannot have their power without "working".

Once established the work of the populace that feeds the marxist oligarchs is done at the point of a sword.
The Soviet system was not an accident,it was the only possible outcome of the basic ideology and inevitably collapsed as European socialist dabbling is doing as we speak.

DUmbasses labor under the delusion that being the faithful will end up rewarding them by inclusion at the head table.
Instead those that actually have intelligence will do everything the left presumes to hate,execution,to ensure the useful idiots end up in more abject poverty then they can imagine today.

[zeitgeist]

So, an adult is trying to maintain solvency of the state and keep at least some tax payer goodies flowing, but the liberal children are howling that the checkbook is being taken away?  Now where have we seen that before?

*cough* Detroit *cough*

But I personally love this mouth-breather's example of good governance:

Moonbeam's California?  Are you sure that's the "world of free people", DUmmie?
http://www.kcra.com/news/californias-pension-liability-growing-by-billions/29726920

Heh...

If you have the time and haven't seen this one yet I highly recommend it.  Ran across it yesterday. Public pensions are going to be an albatross around the neck of the young.  Some of the examples in the article are startling (others frightening). Probably too many words for the average Dummy and written a bit beyond their sound bite comprehension. 

The link and a little tease:
http://reason.com/archives/2015/02/06/reverse-robin-hoods/

{snip}So short of bankruptcy, cities can do almost nothing about pensions other than cut services and/or raise taxes. Every municipal tax hike is functionally an exercise in paying for pensions, given the reality that money is fungible and pensions nationwide are dramatically underfunded.

The numbers can get absurd. As the Manhattan Institute's Nicole Gelinas explained in the New York Post in 2013, "New York pays more police in retirement than to patrol our streets." The same goes for Chicago and some other cities. "Eventually retirees will outnumber active workers by a ratio of nearly 2 to 1 in some CalPERS plans," The Sacramento Bee reported in November. Reed joked to Vanity Fair that eventually his city will be left with one worker: the guy who sends out pension checks.
{sinp}

[thundley4]

If you have the time and haven't seen this one yet I highly recommend it.  Ran across it yesterday. Public pensions are going to be an albatross around the neck of the young.  Some of the examples in the article are startling (others frightening). Probably too many words for the average Dummy and written a bit beyond their sound bite comprehension. 

The link and a little tease:
http://reason.com/archives/2015/02/06/reverse-robin-hoods/

The city I live in has dug a huge hole. Within the next few years 50% of their budget will be going to payroll, pensions and other benefits. Needless to say they are looking at imposing a gas tax.

[obumazombie]

PB&G will be getting a workout in the near future.