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A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« on: February 14, 2015, 10:22:52 AM »
Well... ok... It's not from DU. It seems other 'news organizations' are starting their own bouncy tails... er.. tales..

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riqster (12,597 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026223412

Today, my wife was mistaken for a Muslim.
https://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2015/02/14/today-my-wife-was-mistaken-for-a-muslim/


The Blunt and Crankies are on our way home from a vacation with wonderful friends in warm, sunny places. As we stopped for the night in Whereverthehell Kentucky, she wrapped a scarf around her head because, well, it’s f***ing cold outside. Looked a bit like a hijab, but who cares when you’ve come from the Florida coast to Freezerville in 36 hours, right?

Wrong. The woman who was misguided enough to marry your humble correspondent is of Irish/Shawnee/Syrian descent, and is frequently taken as a local in whatever country or region in which we are at a given moment. Be it in Central America, Scotland, on a Reservation or so on, people associate her with their ethnic preconceptions. So, when the locals saw her with the scarf wrapped tightly around her head, they projected their image of a Middle Eastern woman upon her. Disturbingly. ...Uh... if she is of Syrian decent, as you so claim, she is a middle eastern woman.

Women looked at her with a condescending mixture of pity and disdain. They looked at me as if I were a wife-abusing terrorist. Men looked at us like we were both worthy of being shot by Chris f***ing Kyle.

All because a "white" woman was chilly and covered her head. ...Uh... Irish, Shawnee, Syrian....does she identify as white? I am doubting it as claiming native american will get you a shit load of benifits.

America, you are SO f***ing f***ed. Surprised nobody shot us based on their idiotic, bigoted, stupid-assed ideas.

Je suis Chapel Hill.
 


First off, nobody said a ****ing word to you. However depending on where you are in Kentucky (where are very large group of the KKK exists---- and run in the local elections as Democrats) you could have been looked at as an outsider simply for not living there for the last seven or so generations.

Just a shitty bouncy- typical of bouncies as of late.

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elleng (53,146 posts)
1. :-(

Sad.

It's been quite a while since I've worn a scarf, used to keep 'rain scarf' in my purse, and wore it when the need arose. Don't know where it is now. May look for it, and use it when I feel like it.


 ::)

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riqster (12,597 posts)
2. Yep. Didn't even think about it until the locals reacted.

Sad.


You probably acted like a typical liberal asshole.

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Panich52 (704 posts)
4. Bigots love stereotypes...
Reminds me of concern my 'adopted' daughter had once (kid of best friend; I'm a 2nd Mom). It was shortly after Columbine. She's long been a Goth and wore black trenchcoat for quite a while. We were in WV and she came to me upset that folks were giving her looks.

Unfortunately, it'll be a long time before we humans can break our ancestral tribalism -- suspicion of 'others.'


Like racist redneck hillbilly Kentuckians?

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hollowdweller (2,480 posts)
6. That happened to a friend of mine

She put on a scarf because it was kind of cool and sprinkling and went to get some take out.

The guy who runs the place she got food at asked her if she wanted to go out. He's like from Jordan or Syria I can't remember.


 :o    :rotf:  Yeah... wouldn't that be like reverse racist sexual harrassment or something? I need Bainesbane to weigh in on this.

Oh... i didn't mean BB is fat.... I didn't... oh, hi Mark...

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Rozlee (2,388 posts)
21. I've got the most beautiful scarves and shawls and I don't dare cover my head with them.

It's a shame that darker women can't wear head coverings like that anymore because a segment of the population is so bigoted. I was raised at a time when women took wearing scarves over their heads as fashion. My daughter especially, looks gorgeous and exotic wearing her shawls over her head. She can't do it. Some asshole might blow her away.


Yes. Every day hundreds of women are assaulted in teh US because they wear scarves...

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pa28 (4,973 posts)
7. Try to stay strong.

 :thatsright:

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riqster (12,597 posts)
10. We have it easy. She got creeped out and took the scarf off.

Real muslims can't.


 :o :thatsright:

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12. I wore one of my bedu dresses to the store today, scarf around my neck and noticed 1 person staring

at me. It was quite odd. I get people looking at my dress sometimes, it is black with some embroidery, not heavy embroidery, but today it was quite odd. Nothing was said, but she was staring at me. Oh, I live in an aging hippy town where people wear whatever they want, often loose stuff, India skirts, jeans, tank tops, scarves. This was odd today. It wasn't an angry look, but was a very different watchful stare. Maybe she liked my dress, or felt bad about the NC shootings. I don't know.


Yes, least we forget DU is all about ME, uppity lets us know she got stared at too.

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PADemD (3,176 posts)
15. I've seen women who are undergoing chemo wear a head scarf.

 O-)

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fbc (266 posts)
16. OMG!! Dirty looks?! It's amazing you survived!

Let's be clear about something: All people in this country are free to practice their religions free of government interference.

That doesn't mean you have the right to have your religion respected. Others are perfectly within their rights to treat religious people with disdain.


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30. Omg, did I really read this comment here? Tell me I misunderstood.

Judging people for what they wear, color of skin, an accent, their socioeconomic status, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc is plain straight up bigotry.

A person has a right to be "other" and live in peace. No one should have to take any abuse because they are in some way different. We don't have the right to commit violence on anyone based simply on the idea that they are different.

I hope I'm misunderstanding the meaning of your post.

coming from the most bigotted people on the interwebs I guess they'd know..

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23. The amount of right wing propaganda on TV and in the pulpit is freaking these people out.

Thanks for posting about this. It is important for people to understand this kind of casual bigotry and just how dangerous it really is.
The nonstop anti-Obama nonsense about him being a Muslim or a Muslim sympathizer is leading people to act in ways they would never have even considered. The right wing rhetoric is dangerous and is destabilizing our society. They think this will bring them more money and power. It is straight out of 1930's Germany.

If you listen to Goebbel's Nuremberg trial speech, uh... Goebbels, his wife and their children all committed suicide in teh bunker in Berlin in May 1945...kind of hard for him to testify in a trial later...  it is frighteningly similar to the things that our current GOP politicians are saying especially Karl Rove and the Koch brothers. It is a huge problem, because this is no longer taught in high school history classes, many people are ignorant to what their propaganda really means.

Welcome back to Ohio in time for the big freeze.

Take care.


Talk about not understanding history! Of course the leftists are all about re-writing history to fit their own world view.

However, the HomoGestapo stikes!

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29. I think it shows an apathetic sort of privilege that you can manage shock at this. Dirty looks. My.

I'm gay. I'd never stop for the night in whateverville Kentucky at all. Why?
In 2013, there were 1,461 hate crimes against person with victims targeted due to sexual-orientation bias:

60.9 percent were victims of crimes motivated by their offenders’ anti-gay (male) bias.
22.5 percent were victims of anti-lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender (mixed group) bias.
13.1 percent were victims of anti-lesbian bias.
1.8 percent were victims of anti-bisexual bias.
1.6 percent were victims of anti-heterosexual bias

So 890 officially deemed hate crimes against gay men like me. This is a constant in your society, dear Mr and Mrs Bluntcranky. The perpetrators are heterosexual people almost exclusively.

Religion of the victim is another major motive for hate crimes in the US, 2013 there were 1,223 victims of anti-religious hate crimes:

60.3 percent were victims of crimes motivated by their offenders’ anti-Jewish bias.
13.7 percent were victims of anti-Islamic (Muslim) bias.
6.1 percent were victims of anti-Catholic bias.
4.3 percent were victims of bias against groups of individuals of varying religions (anti-multiple religions, group).
3.8 percent were victims of anti-Protestant bias.
0.6 percent were victims of anti-Atheist/Agnostic bias.
11.2 percent were victims of bias against other religions (anti-other religion)

Way more than nasty looks, these are crimes against persons, acts of violence clearly and legally provable to have been motivated by bias.

We are 6 weeks into 2015 and already this year in the US there have been 5 trans women of color murdered. 5. In six weeks.
There are regular anti gay murders that go utterly unmentioned on DU.


Interesting fact: Both the KKK and Muslims will kill gays.

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AngryAmish (22,068 posts)
31. My wife too was mistaken for a Muslim

Her last name is one that is commonly associated with Muslims. One night last summer I was drinking beer and watching the Cubs game when the doorbell rang. Three dudes from the local mosque came round wondering why my wife was not attending the mosque. I figure they either looked at the property records or more likely bought a mailing list. I told them that we don't go to church. They said ok and left.

Then I went back to drinking beer and watching the surprisingly watchable Cubs of the second half of last season. Jake Arrietta was nearly unhittable at times. Rizzo had a breakout year. Now with Bryant and the lads coming up....pitchers and catchers report in a week!


MEMEMEMEMEMMEMEMMEMEMMEMEMMEMEMMMEMEMEMEMMMEMEMMEMEME!!!!

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33. What happens when bigots discover that white muslims exist?

Are they going to bother random white people just in case?  When they find out that some muslims don't wear scarves or beards, or even have much of a "muslim look" at all then what?

People mistook me for a "dirty brown muslim" every day for a while during the Bush years. Then Barry got elected and it stopped!!!    It got so bad that my mom made me wear a cross around my neck and we all put American flags and rosaries in our cars and stayed home every anniversary of that horrible day for safety reasons. My parents still got heckled in line for voting for "your secretly muslim" president the last 2 elections.

And yes, there are some people who have seen us in church and Sunday school for decades who are sure that we are probably muslims who definitely changed our names for nefarious reasons.

I could start a whole other thread on employment discrimination.

je suis American as apple pie


We have already figired that out.

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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2015, 10:40:10 AM »
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16. OMG!! Dirty looks?! It's amazing you survived!

Let's be clear about something: All people in this country are free to practice their religions free of government interference.

That doesn't mean you have the right to have your religion respected. Others are perfectly within their rights to treat religious people with disdain.


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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2015, 12:11:59 PM »
The North Koreans printed up 50 million "Ear More Grass" bumper stickers but alas they had no bumpers to put them on.
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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2015, 12:42:29 PM »
If you walk around trying to draw attention to yourself, people are going to look at you.  How you interpret those looks is entirely on you.
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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2015, 02:16:22 PM »
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I've got the most beautiful scarves and shawls and I don't dare cover my head with them.

 My daughter especially, looks gorgeous and exotic wearing her shawls over her head. She can't do it. Some asshole might blow her away.

Oh come on!  This is not happening.  And neither did the bouncy.  They could probably smell libtard a mile away. 
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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2015, 02:22:25 PM »
Just a note. There is more hate crime that is not called hate crime in the form of black on white.

Just last year there were over 35,000 white women raped by black men.
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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2015, 03:15:20 PM »
Another stupid bouncie. People that live in cold areas won't give it a second thought to see someone wearing a scarf on their head. 
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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2015, 07:34:12 AM »
Yep, here in KY we hate outsiders. How much do we hate them? We have entirely foreign owned factories here (Toyota, Osram, Hitachi, Taica, Aichi, etc) and that's just in the Lexington area. Why, it's not a complete week unless we're burning a cross on the front lawn of the camry plant.   
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20. absolute bullshit. the cave is unspeakably vile.

I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2015, 08:00:05 AM »
Lame. 2 bongs max.
"The woman who was misguided enough to marry your humble correspondent is of Irish/Shawnee/Syrian descent,"
Something tells me 'Misguided' is right.
" Men looked at us like we were both worthy of being shot by Chris f***ing Kyle."
Of course, the left is still wallowing in their hatred of Chris Kyle for committing the heinous crime of protecting his fellow troops from being killed by demented insurgents before coming home and helping them to readjust to civilian life, so he had to put that reference in.
"Judging people for what they wear, color of skin, an accent, their socioeconomic status, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc is plain straight up bigotry."
Unless it's you guys judging people for being Republican, expressing conservative views on any issues, being white, having a Southern accent, being rich, being American, or being a Christian. Then, you can apparently say any kinds of hateful venom you want about them and it's just "Speaking truth to power" or some crap like that.

"it is frighteningly similar to the things that our current GOP politicians are saying especially Karl Rove and the Koch brothers."
Um, the Koch brothers are industrialists/ philanthropists, not politicians. Just donating money to political causes they support doesn't make them politicians, you moron.

" I'd never stop for the night in whateverville Kentucky at all."
Ok, and here this DUmmy himself expresses bigotry against people for simply living in a certain state.
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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2015, 08:55:15 AM »
The (D) motto should be DO AS I SAY,THINK, ACT, AND BELIEVE, NOT AS I DO, SAY,THINK, ACT, AND BELIEVE.
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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2015, 09:36:59 AM »
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First off, nobody said a ****ing word to you.

That's what makes the article so powerful! By the time an unwary reader wades through all the invective, they've forgotten it's based on looks and glances that might have been due to something entirely different - up to and including the sun being in their eyes. Mountainizing molehills is powerful, until some one yells out, "Whe-e-e-e-re's the beef?!
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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2015, 08:47:40 PM »
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4. Bigots love stereotypes...
Reminds me of concern my 'adopted' daughter had once (kid of best friend; I'm a 2nd Mom). It was shortly after Columbine. She's long been a Goth and wore black trenchcoat for quite a while. We were in WV and she came to me upset that folks were giving her looks.

 

Tell your stupid assed kid that if she dresses up like a damned weirdo then she will be looked upon as a damned weirdo no matter where she is at. Now as for it being right after Columbine and in WV, the locals, who were probably all carrying concealed, were probably keeping an eye on her in case she pulled out a weapon. 
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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2015, 11:45:58 PM »
Don't know what they have to worry about in Kentucky. I'd be more worried about raging left wing athiests in the north.

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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2015, 12:30:51 PM »
Quote from: delilahmused on February 15, 2015, 11:45:58 PM
Don't know what they have to worry about in Kentucky. I'd be more worried about raging left wing athiests in the north.

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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2015, 04:40:02 PM »
Quote from: delilahmused on February 15, 2015, 11:45:58 PM
Don't know what they have to worry about in Kentucky. I'd be more worried about raging left wing athiests in the north.

Cindie

They are using stereotypes once again. The old Southern Back woods redneck. I guess it's ok, as long as it's Southerners they are stereotyping.
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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2015, 05:51:37 PM »
So one time at band camp...oh wait this islam and they don't have music...except for the most beautiful sound in the world.
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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2015, 06:11:58 PM »
That bouncy is so lame it has rsmithnumbers (wherever the hell he is these days) shaking his head in disgust.

Pam Dawson has a better imagination.
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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2015, 09:13:49 PM »
Nothing better than a Dummy inventing racism/bigotry.
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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2015, 11:38:16 PM »
Quote from: HawkHogan on February 16, 2015, 09:13:49 PM
Nothing better than a Dummy inventing racism/bigotry.

DUmmies are the racists and bigots.
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Re: A good old fashioned DU Muslim Bouncy Story.
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2015, 09:20:21 AM »
Didn't they do this same bouncy but with a hoodie?  :lmao:
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