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**** Medicare for all
 
 My mother in law was diagnosed with Lynch Syndrome after her third bout with cancer. This most recent battle required her to have a kidney removed. They ignored doctors orders and had her come home 60 days ago (the doctor was ultimately fine with it, because of my wife's training). My wife is a nurse and has been essentially living over there, taking care of her. She got a bad infection a week ago and my wife and father in law have been taking care of her. Two days ago, the doctor said she needs to go to the hospital, but she has made it clear she does not want to go in until tomorrow, as Medicare won't pay until she has been out of the hospital for 60 days. They were forced, under Medicare, to decide between waiting two days for coverage, or send her in and bankrupt my father in law.

Say prayers, as they are taking her in at 12:01 tonight. **** Medicare for making them decide between bankruptcy or potential death.

Until we have government run, free healthcare, we have a system of politicians continuing to line people's pockets.

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And that 60 day rule was part of ObamaCare.

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Yeah, like price controls work.
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Poor, stupid primitive.  Here's a clue for you.  A government empowered to give you things is also empowered to set rules you don't like.  Surprise!!!!

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Say prayers, as they are taking her in at 12:01 tonight. **** Medicare for making them decide between bankruptcy or potential death.

B-b-but, ...... what can an imaginary sky being do for you?  A waste of time, isn't it?

And that 60 day rule was part of ObamaCare.

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Oooooooh, ......really!?!?!?!

(<<<<<--- doesn't know, one way or the other.)

*massive schadenboner*

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Until we have government run, free healthcare, we have a system of politicians continuing to line people's pockets.

It's government run and free for illegals?  Whatsamatter, snookums?

Yep.  Free fixes everything.   :stoner:
« Last Edit: January 21, 2015, 10:13:16 PM by 98ZJUSMC »
              

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Quote from: thundley4 on Today at 08:58:05 PM
And that 60 day rule was part of ObamaCare.

Oooooooh, ......really!?!?!?!

(<<<<<--- doesn't know, one way or the other.)

*massive schadenboner*

It's government run and free for illegals?  Whatsamatter, snookums?

Yep.  Free fixes everything.   :stoner:

http://www.njbiz.com/article/20131001/NJBIZ01/131009972/For-hospitals-Obamacare-rollout-makes-readmission-penalties-a-top-of-mind-priority

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As hospitals across the country work to cut down on readmission rates and save themselves from steep penalties imposed by the Affordable Care Act, Jersey City Medical Center is tackling the problem from its emergency room.

Like many other hospitals, it's struggling to support the "frequent fliers" who overuse its emergency services, said Dr. Susan Walsh, medical director of Jersey City Medical Center's accountable-care organization.

And when that same patient frequently returns to the ER, it causes a spike in the hospital's readmission rates, translating into hefty penalties to Medicare reimbursement under the ACA.

"Emergency rooms are not for managing chronic diseases," Walsh said. "We know, as health care workers, that it's not always the best choice for people."

So this month, Jersey City Medical Center launched a program that will connect those frequent flyers with paramedics outside the confines of an emergency phone call. Those emergency responders will reach out to patients and offer to come by their homes, educate them about their illness and check their houses for safety issues.

Hospitals are penalized by Medicare if patients are readmitted within a certain period of time.

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13. For-Profit Healthcare is IMMORAL

In a wealthy country that can certainly afford it...
This is unequivocal.

Yeah, good luck with that. If doctors and nurses and other medical professionals can't make a profit, then they'll find a career where they can. 

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Yeah, good luck with that. If doctors and nurses and other medical professionals can't make a profit, then they'll find a career where they can.

Many of them ARE.
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Yeah, good luck with that. If doctors and nurses and other medical professionals can't make a profit, then they'll find a career where they can.

Hence the rise of the concierge, cash up front health care delivery model....

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Yeah, good luck with that. If doctors and nurses and other medical professionals can't make a profit, then they'll find a career where they can.
Medical professionals get paid for doing something....DUmmies get paid for doing nothing yet they think others should work and not get paid.
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Yeah, good luck with that. If doctors and nurses and other medical professionals can't make a profit, then they'll find a career where they can.

Or,like in England,they will migrate to a better paying,private hospital in what will inevitably be a two tiered system.

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Re: Primitive wants government control to fix problems of government control.
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2015, 01:23:50 PM »
Or,like in England,they will migrate to a better paying,private hospital in what will inevitably be a two tiered system.

And like England, we'll end up with a bunch of immigrant doctors that don't meet normal standards.  As it is, they are making it easier here for non-doctors to perform tasks that have always been left to the doctors before.

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Re: Primitive wants government control to fix problems of government control.
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2015, 01:44:17 PM »
And like England, we'll end up with a bunch of immigrant doctors that don't meet normal standards.  As it is, they are making it easier here for non-doctors to perform tasks that have always been left to the doctors before.
Hell, half the doctors in my little one horse town can't speak English now.
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Re: Primitive wants government control to fix problems of government control.
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2015, 01:47:43 PM »
Hell, half the doctors in my little one horse town can't speak English now.

My dentist office has a Korean and and Indian.