Proglodyte wonders why he should care if there's nothing in it for him

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

davidn3600 (3,675 posts)

So how does free community college help students now with tons of debt?
   
Say you just graduated and took out loans to pay for that school? Or what if you are in school now?

Shit outta luck, right?

I don't see this being as popular an idea as you think. Every current college student will miss out before this would ever become a reality. And recent grads struggling to pay those loans won't be happy either.

davidn3600 (3,675 posts)

13. Not from what I have seen

Current college students on twitter don't seem all that thrilled.

I also know 1 person that just graduated. She told me she just made all sorts of sacrifices and took out thousands of dollars in loans to go back to school and now she hears Obama wants to give it away for free to everyone. She's pissed.

I think this will be a political dead end until something is done about the student loan debt. And for some reason Obama will not even touch that issue. Democrats have completely abandoned the college youth. And then you wonder why these kids didn't turnout last November? Just wait till 2016.

trumad (37,663 posts)

15. davidn3600 official poll
 
I saw something on twitter so it won't work.

Seriously weird Op.

davidn3600 (3,675 posts)

17. Official poll was last November when the youth didnt vote at all

And I don't understand why you think it's weird. We got tons of college students today with debt totaling over $1.1 trillion in student loans. And you think this is a weird topic?????

Sorry, but I think that's a big issue. College grads are struggling out there enslaved to these massive loans and can't find any employment. They are tied down now for the entire LIFE! Because these loans cannot be discharged even in bankrupcy.

And now we are going to flood the job market with associates degres?

A kid is in school now spending thousands of dollars in debt and he's being told by Obama, "tough shit, the next class gets a free ride!" Good luck riding that campaign slogan in 2016.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026115640

[FiddyBeowulf]

davidn3600 (3,675 posts)

So how does free community college help students now with tons of debt?

Giving help to students now at the expense of those with debt was not the point of the proposal. The point is for the government to take money from people who are saving for college via taxes.
   

[Carl]

Scum sucking leeches.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Proglodyte wonders why he should care if there's nothing in it for him

To be fair, a pretty good percentage of the people who'd have to pay for the Pretzeldent's giveaways could say something kind of similar.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

To be fair, a pretty good percentage of the people who'd have to pay for the Pretzeldent's giveaways could say something kind of similar.

Yeah...but when has THAT ever applied to a Proglodyte?

[SVPete]

Giving help to students now at the expense of those with debt was not the point of the proposal. The point is for the government to take money from people who are saving for college via taxes.
 

But when Lib/Prog special interest sub-groups come into conflict and start sniping at each other, it's a good thing. And to be encouraged!

[JohnnyReb]

Next vote buying scheme....for those that paid their own way to school....we'll give you your money back.

[Maxiest]

The hilarious part of this is he brought this up after he talked about giving no "handouts."

[Gina]

It's very funny to me to see them say "There's nothing in it for me so why should I have to do it". 

There's NOTHING in anything Obama does for me but libs act like I should be happy about his policies.  It's nice to see them having to suck on the shit lollipop Obama hands out.

Sucks to work for something only to have it taken away from you and given to a bum doesn't it?

[DumbAss Tanker]

The hilarious part of this is he brought this up after he talked about giving no "handouts."

And why, if the economy is in such wonderful shape, are all these handouts necessary?

Inquiring minds want to know...

[thundley4]

Giving help to students now at the expense of those with debt was not the point of the proposal. The point is for the government to take money from people who are saving for college via taxes.
 

Obama wants to tax 529 plans that people use to save for their kids colleges funds.

[franksolich]

Obama wants to tax 529 plans that people use to save for their kids colleges funds.

Unless one considers property taxes sort of the same thing, at least unlike the medieval Russians, he hasn't taxed anybody yet based upon the number of windows in their house.

I'm sure however the Democrats will get around to it, sooner or later.

[thundley4]

Unless one considers property taxes sort of the same thing, at least unlike the medieval Russians, he hasn't taxed anybody yet based upon the number of windows in their house.

I'm sure however the Democrats will get around to it, sooner or later.

A tax on windows would only be fair. I mean people who own or rent a house have more windows than apartment dwellers, so they should pay more for the sunshine they get to use.

[delilahmused]

Something was done about student loans, the government took over. Now they owe their souls to Uncle Sam, who, unlike private banks, won't give better interest for having good credit.

Cindie

[miskie]

No big deal Dummies. -Obama has declared that people who save up and pay their own college tuition must be part of the 1% and therefore will be taxed appropriately. That is what you wanted, right ?

[Delmar]

Response to davidn3600 (Original post)Wed Jan 21, 2015, 05:20 AM
Star Member JustAnotherGen (14,510 posts)
11. Right out of school or in in school - they will support it

I was at University in the early 1990's and supported the tax breaks and assistance that came about right after I graduated.

It didn't help me - but maybe it helped someone without the financial resources I had right after. I also had friends that graduated undergrad and got married - and started out with close to $80K in debt. They are doing awesome financially now - but they now live in NC and have great FB posts about their participation in moral Mondays.

Not every on is Scroogey Grinch who "got ahead" and they don't resent giving another person a desperately needed hand up.

Count me among them.

However - and I missed it in the speech - we will have to wait for the written policy . . . I would hope "trades" are covered under this policy.

We need people to fix cars, install water heaters, solder parts together, etc etc.

I was at University.  Give me a break.

Where were you at university, you phony-baloney DUmmy?  Oxford?  Cambridge?

In America one says:  I was in college.

[thundley4]

I was at University.  Give me a break.

Where were you at university, you phony-baloney DUmmy?  Oxford?  Cambridge?

In America one says:  I was in college.

Unless you are specifically saying what university you were at, but most people do say they were "in college".

[obumazombie]

A tax on windows would only be fair. I mean people who own or rent a house have more windows than apartment dwellers, so they should pay more for the sunshine they get to use.

So much rape here...
Window rape
Own rape
Rent rape
House rape
Apartment rape
Dweller rape
Pay rape
Sunshine rape

There's enough for everybody to go around.

[AprilRazz]

Well I should thank the taxpayers of this fine country for my college education. The GI Bill allowed me to graduate nursing school debt free. Of course I served those same taxpayers in the military for 8 years first.

[BlueStateSaint]

Well I should thank the taxpayers of this fine country for my college education. The GI Bill allowed me to graduate nursing school debt free. Of course I served those same taxpayers in the military for 8 years first.

I'm with you, AR--I graduated a fine university debt-free, and then owed the US Army 4 years on active duty (and 2 on IRR).  Very nearly died on active duty, but I got a good deal.