tavernier (1,598 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025788825
Was Obama too green when he came into office?
And by green, I mean inexperienced.
I attended a convention a couple of years before the election that swept him into office, and although he was a rising star, my main thought was that he just didn't have the long time experience of say, LBJ, who knew how to schmooze and threaten and finesse his opponents. That comes from a lifetime of political experience.
Sometimes brains and heart and courage just aren't enough (and Obama is blessed with all of these). Sometimes you have to be an old Wizard, with many learned tricks up your sleeve.
I have to admit that I have wondered how Johnson would have handled this congress?
Gee... I seem to remember the right saying these exact same things... six years ago.
frazzled (12,253 posts)
1. I think he was too black.
Negro, please.
Cleita (70,991 posts)
3. I thought so too, but no one listens to me. However, I admire how he has handled all the shit thrown at him with grace and dignity.
Hipster ****.
joshcryer (48,851 posts)
4. Yes, without a doubt.
And they all jump on the band wagon...
Wellstone ruled (1,862 posts)
11. Wow!!!
No!!! A leader surrounds him or her self with trusted advisers. Here in lies the problem Mr. Obama had from the get go. Chief of staff was his weakest choice. From there lies many choices of personnel that did not serve him well. Remember,he had major debts to the big Banks for his funding and that set in motion a cascading effect once his chief of staff pissed off most of the people on the Hill. The press jump on this like stink on shit baby. End of story. The rest was and is damage control. Biden did not do his job either,but,what do expect from a third way Democrat that owes his ass to Jamie Dimon and Loyd Blankfind. If one thinks Mr. Obama wasn't up to the task,explain the Chump in Chief we had to put up with. A guy with a maybe 100 I.Q.. Duh!!!
W is looking more and more like a genius with foresight.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.aspTwilightGardener (43,795 posts)
13. On Inauguration Day, 2009, the GOP Congress pledged to oppose him on everything and make him fail. When has that ever happened at the start of a Presidency? His problem wasn't/isn't inexperience dealing with Congress. His problem is that while he is superficially very friendly and sociable out of necessity, his ultimate nature is solitary and insular--not a glad-handler, not a happy warrior, not a very good manipulator. That limits his influence on Congressional dealings. Although I don't think his issues are all that bad, and he will be seen as successful in the future.
kentuck (72,212 posts)
15. I think he will be seen in the top echelon of Presidents...when all is weighed and recorded.
I think he is starting to make Carter look good.
KoKo (78,130 posts)
14. I think he was...but, the "Powers that Be" who Chose him...found him their "Dream Candidate."
So...there's that.
kelliekat44 (5,446 posts)
19. No. The nation was too mean. Obama is didn't get where he is by being green. Still don't want to give him credit for his maturity and intelligence. He wasn't too green. He's human. He's decent. We all see the world as we are. He was hopeful, sincere, eager, optimistic, as were his supporters. The side with the most money and power was fearful, hateful, hurtful, pessimistic, and angry. They never gave him a chance.
We are the hope we are hoping for!
badtoworse (5,719 posts)
24. Yes. He had no experience as an executive going in. Being an executive is no different than any other job. It takes time and experience to get good at it and Obama had never held an executive position before becoming president. Obama is more of a consensus type of guy. In my opinion, they make crappy executives.
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