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Offline thundley4

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Why MSNBC failed?
« on: November 13, 2014, 12:41:45 PM »
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kentuck (72,270 posts)  Thu Nov 13, 2014, 11:07 AM


Why MSNBC failed?

If their intent was to offer an opposing viewpoint to FOX, they failed primarily because of one person: Joe Scarborough

They set him up for 3 hours in the early morning slot and he managed to out-shout any liberal that might be permitted on his show. His narrative was not challenged by any day time hosts and his views became the primary views of MSNBC, regardless of what Chris Mathews or Rachel Maddow might say during the popular FOX prime viewing time slots.

If they wonder why they had no impact in the last election, they need look no further than their own scheduling.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025811064

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2. None of the MSM wants an alternative offered as you leave in the morning

Joe's role is just like all the rest. If you had any real alternative info as you left for Roark you might *GASP* say it out loud at "the water cooler". Can't have that happening.

When Imus finally got canned MSNBC had open try outs basically. Stephanie Miller was clearly the best choice. Not that she is all that alternative but she clearly isn't just another talking points reader. Nope they went with their 3pm dead time host and a nice corporate sponsorship (which they could have gotten with any host).

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4. Plenty of Democrats show up on MJ, and the discussion is fairly wide-ranging

Or do you only like to have opinions you believe in reinforced?

That is a very silly question to ask of anyone posting at DU.  DU is nothing but an echo chamber of leftism.

Why should people watch MSNBC when they can get the same shit by watching ABC/NBC/CBS and have their pablum spoon fed to them?
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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2014, 12:46:03 PM »
Joe Scarborough is a very odd, and not very good example of a conservative.
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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2014, 01:06:34 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on November 13, 2014, 12:41:45 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025811064

That is a very silly question to ask of anyone posting at DU.  DU is nothing but an echo chamber of leftism.

Why should people watch MSNBC when they can get the same shit by watching ABC/NBC/CBS and have their pablum spoon fed to them?


     Are they really wondering why MSNBC is a failure? Really?

     Here's my take, for what it's worth. They saw Fox and saw only the right-leaning content. Nothing else: not that they all regularly bring on liberals and Dems and often give them the last word.  Then they said, we're going to be the opposite, except they went to the extreme opposite and then some. They took the most simpleminded, one-note Fox personality (Hannity), and built an entire lineup counteracting HIM. Then they said, hey, we're so close to the hipster community, why not bring on faggy she-men like Hayes and Sinatra Farrow, and while we're at it, let's let ur-dyke Maddow evolve into a smug, lecturing schoolmarm (seriously - ever try to watch even two minutes of her? She's like the RA in an all-dyke dorm of a northeast women's college). Then they decided that Chris Matthews is their "senior statesman" in the mold of Brit Hume, yet the guy can't stop humping 0bama's leg.

     That's what happens when you try to build an entire news network around your objection to ONE personality. I won't even mention Sylvester Schultz or that guy who used to be on Frasier.

     Lurking DUmbasses, you know I'm right.
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5. IMO

a certain percentage of DU is depressed and has other mental issues.

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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2014, 01:11:35 PM »
Don't forget Al Sharpton.  Gotta have at least one black man on a station run entirely by white people.
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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2014, 01:17:53 PM »
Quote from: Chris_ on November 13, 2014, 01:11:35 PM
Don't forget Al Sharpton.  Gotta have at least one black man on a station run entirely by white people.

     Oh, yes, I forgot about Al. What's that tell you?

     
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5. IMO

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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2014, 01:18:21 PM »
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     Oh, yes, I forgot about Al. What's that tell you?
Not much.  I'd forget him too if he wasn't so damned entertaining.
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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2014, 01:42:28 PM »
Joe Scarborough has the only show on MSNBC that gets somewhat decent ratings, the rest of the moonbats are failing hard.
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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2014, 02:01:47 PM »
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TampaAnimusVortex (340 posts)     Thu Nov 13, 2014, 08:45 AM

5. No alternative views in primetime...

While O'Reily and Hannity will shout down their opponents, but they actually do bring on different views. You rarely see this on MSNBC. It's an echo chamber with everyone running around "me too"ing.

I don't watch any mainstream media honestly, so I could care less. All the main news shows can go the way of the dodo for all I care.

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Johonny (12,122 posts)     Thu Nov 13, 2014, 09:42 AM

10. Perhaps because reality only has one view point

Occasionally reality pays a visit on FOX news but it doesn't stay long and gets rejected by all their opinion hosts.

Why doesn't reality pay more visits to MSM in general? Why do viewers have to long to know something that is actually true?

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Vinca (22,421 posts)      Thu Nov 13, 2014, 10:01 AM

12. I don't think it's because they don't try to offer alternative views.

The right, for the most part, is scared sh*tless of Rachael Maddow. They won't even answer her calls for interviews.

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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2014, 02:23:14 PM »
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Johonny (12,122 posts)     Thu Nov 13, 2014, 09:42 AM

10. Perhaps because reality only has one view point

Occasionally reality pays a visit on FOX news but it doesn't stay long and gets rejected by all their opinion hosts.

Why doesn't reality pay more visits to MSM in general? Why do viewers have to long to know something that is actually true?

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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2014, 02:27:26 PM »
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Joe's role is just like all the rest. If you had any real alternative info as you left for Roark you might *GASP* say it out loud at "the water cooler". Can't have that happening.

I admit I'm not always up on the latest fads, new words, TV personalities, etc..., but what is "Roark"?

Is that what they're calling "work" these days? And am I to be surprised that moonbats don't know the difference between "Roark" and "work"?

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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2014, 02:28:19 PM »
Kentuck is the epitome of the stupid Americans Gruber discussed in those videos regarding Obamacare.

He's a Gruber-American.
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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2014, 02:46:44 PM »
DUmmies just don't get it.  TV programming is all about making money usually through advertising dollars.  Therefore MSNBC was doomed from the start, because their target audience is a bunch of freeloaders and welfare queeens.
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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2014, 02:48:12 PM »
Quote from: chitownchica on November 13, 2014, 02:28:19 PM
Kentuck is the epitome of the stupid Americans Gruber discussed in those videos regarding Obamacare.

He's a Gruber-American.

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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2014, 03:25:29 PM »
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Vinca (22,421 posts)      Thu Nov 13, 2014, 10:01 AM

12. I don't think it's because they don't try to offer alternative views.

The right, for the most part, is scared sh*tless of Rachael Maddow. They won't even answer her calls for interviews.

Yehhhhh, I don't really think fear is the reason for that...
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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2014, 06:31:12 PM »
Quote from: USA4ME on November 13, 2014, 02:27:26 PM
I admit I'm not always up on the latest fads, new words, TV personalities, etc..., but what is "Roark"?

Is that what they're calling "work" these days? And am I to be surprised that moonbats don't know the difference between "Roark" and "work"?

It's a stealth shoutout to Ayn Rand.

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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2014, 06:43:12 PM »
Quote from: Big Dog on November 13, 2014, 06:31:12 PM
It's a stealth shoutout to Ayn Rand.

Ah. Well that should dispel any rumors that I care what Ayn Rand had to say about anything.

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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2014, 06:52:04 PM »
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19. then why does Stephanie miller consistently beat Rush in ratings whenever they're programmed opposite each other? This "don't watch" meme is a lying scam the radio owners do in order to excuse their stupid programming. The only thing that happens to Stephanie's show when she beats Limbaugh over and over is that they remove them both and program sports talk. It's the owners who make programming decisions and for some reason they don't like liberals, even very popular liberals. Maybe it's because they are popular, like Phil Donahue. We don't have liberal media anymore because the conservatives have the power to make it disappear and they have.

Miller beats Limbaugh in ratings?

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Yeah. Greenwich Village. Haight-Ashbury. San Quentin.

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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2014, 06:53:52 PM »
Why is MSNBC a failure?? Because Dummies are the fringe.
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Re: Why MSNBC failed?
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2014, 08:15:36 PM »
Quote from: HawkHogan on November 13, 2014, 06:53:52 PM
Why is MSNBC a failure?? Because Dummies are the fringe.

In the mold of Air America.
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