DUmmie has a family "tragedy" (long post w/ cliffs)

[jtyangel]

Sorry.

No need. The young woman I know is just an alcoholic(no hard drugs I know of). She's actually a likable person, but she has the alcohol demon on her back. None are really aimed at treatment so it was kind of a 'birds flock together'  moment you know?

As for the other woman...you know someone died and another''s life will be changed forever in a lot of ways because of her demons...responsibility time forcibly since she could never manage it prior to the event.

Tired of dumbasses selling a line of shit over their troubled relatives though. I can see how they totally flock to the Trayvon type of issues since they relate to the fairytale of the 'good boy and good girl' even though the person ran around like a hoodlum and behaved worse.

[FaC]

More of the story from the victim's point of view

nofilterisme (2 posts)
119. Sorry

This post take a turn fast! I am the runner of the 7 years Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/prayersforhaileyd/
along with her online donation page- http://www.youcaring.com/medical-fundraiser/prayer-for-hailey-derbyshire/235466
And co-head of all fund raising for Hailey.

Jim's family is having a hard time make ends meet with the cost of burial but only asking for help purchasing a gravel marker- http://www.youcaring.com/memorial-fundraiser/james-lowe-jr-memorial-marker/238976


I just want to clarify a few things, to insure the facts are there regarding Jim (grandpa) and Hailey. Jim is not be blood or by marriage Hailey's grandpa however she didn't look at him like he wasn't grandpa and Jim didn't like at Hailey like she wasn't his granddaughter even after the split up of him and her grandma Ruth. Ruth and her current husband Jeff adopted Hailey a few years ago, sadly a few months ago Jeff pasted away. During the years Jim was still involved in their lives and that tragic Saturday Jim was over spending time with Hailey when she said lets go for a ride grandpa. Ruth hasn't left Hailey side since she was Air-Evac for FMC to Children's Hospital. We have hit just over 2 weeks now, Ruth hasn't worked, they still haven't finished un-packing their new house and it is clear know that Hailey will pull through this, but what long term affects this will have is not known yet. I am sorry to is saddened by the pictures on the donation page or Facebook but it is the cold hard truth that this is what this beautiful little girl looks like right now. She had blood on her brain and was in a coma, she is left with a broken arm, broken leg and fractured spine and will be in a wheel chair for some time to come even after leaving the hospital which we hope will be some time in the near future, as they got her sitting in a wheelchair for the first time two days ago. But the financial stress this will take on Ruth is unknown, and even if she went after the girl for damages.... The girl is 20 with nothing, can't get blood out of a turnip.

It sickness me that this lady has posted many times on here about her poor life, like she is looking for handouts (yes I checked her post). But then to post like this 20 year old girl is false accessed and needs help, makes my blood boil not going to lie! The girl no matter what happens will have a roof over her head a has no limitations on her body and gets time outside. Jim doesn't and Hailey hasn't been outside in two week and will not have the chance for a normal childhood. And will probably have limitations going into her adult years. I have had eye witnesses and even classmates of the 20 year old contact me with information. Her old classmates have the same story that she was a sweet girl then the wrong crowd and alcohol and drugs then took over her life. So either the person that started this post is in denial or I don't know what. But if my kid was best friends with someone with a problem like this, I think I would start asking questions. This is not a of she screwed up cause, that was the first time she was picked up for underage drinking not the third! If the cops that pulled her over that morning knew she was on probation for underage drinking, he should have never let her go, to cause her four I screwed up moment. Makes me wonder when the truth started to come out and she stopped posting if her son was one of the boys in the car that morning. The one gentleman in the car with her that morning was still in the car with her that evening. He was involved in the hit skip on the horse and buggy on 664 just weeks ago, so that didn't open his eyes to get help but to see pictures just days after this accident partying it up before his own court date, show he has no remorse for what he has done or been a part of.

The car has been checked out, I don't know the results of the report. However you have to apply the brake pedal for the brakes to work. For those that don't know the road she was on, it is 25 mph and very bumpy! She hit the bike with enough force to send Hailey 25 feet away for the impact location, the other car she hit head on was pushed back wards about 45 feet. So speed was involved to what extent I don't know but it doesn't take rocket science to put that together. If she would have applied her brakes and they didn't work there was an empty parking lot on her side of the road, why didn't she aim for it instead of left of center at other vehicles? Blood was taking at the hospital which is on the same road not but seconds away and wasn't changed with impairment until the Tuesday after when all the other changes were filed that Monday morning.

Again not trying to start drama, just want to make sure the truth is there about Jim and Haley

[FaC]

It seems like Old Crow is not so proud of his helpful begging advice from a few days ago.

Now...

Old Crow This message was self-deleted by its author.

Then...

Star Member Old Crow (162 posts)
42. Good job; that took you no time at all.

Last edited Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:09 AM - Edit history (1)
If I may, I'd like to suggest some tweaks to the wording of the page. Feel free to alter or simply not use what I'm suggesting below. Thanks!

- - -
"Devin Downour Defense Fund"

(I would suggest posting a photo of Devin in lieu of the current photo, which appears to be a random photo of floor tiles. I've taken the liberty of reviewing the photos on Devin's Facebook account and would suggest using this one:



I would also suggest that Devin give her Facebook password to a family or friend and have that family or friend remove all "party" type photos of her ASAP for obvious reasons.)

Devin Downour, 20, of Rushville, Ohio, was involved in a tragic car accident on Sept. 13, 2014. The accident resulted in a fatality and a serious injury. This fund has been established by her family and friends who love her and want to assure that she receives a good legal defense. Devin maintains that her vehicle's brakes failed and that she was not under the influence of alcohol or drugs at the time of the accident. Please help.

http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/story/news/local/2014/09/15/deadly-motorcycle-crash/15658131/

[DefiantSix]

So are the courts. I know, first-hand.

The DUmp disintegrating into howling madness over a (soon to be) lost election?

[GOBUCKS]

a traffic accident that killed a man

Which reminds me.

The Omaha big guy hasn't been around today.

Maybe he's dead.

He claimed he was terminal, then took off for Lincoln to watch the Cornhuskers (wearing the ugliest uniforms in the history of college football) beat up on Illinois.

Maybe the alleged diagnosis was a strategy to score tickets.

[obumazombie]

After reading threads like this and seeing so many libs with their hands out for handouts, I wonder where the lib political donation base resides. How do they have any money left over to contribute to get owebuma elected with so many lib freeloaders begging.

[67 Rover]

Which reminds me.

The Omaha big guy hasn't been around today.

Maybe he's dead.

He claimed he was terminal, then took off for Lincoln to watch the Cornhuskers (wearing the ugliest uniforms in the history of college football) beat up on Illinois.

Maybe the alleged diagnosis was a strategy to score tickets on an aisle seat.

FIFY

[FaC]

And we're done...

rbrnmw (2,687 posts)

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rbrnmw (2,687 posts)
124. I am sorry I posted this and that I upset so many people

I was given the information right after it happened. Devin isn't evil though she may be troubled. She will live with what she did for the rest of her life. I am sorry for the loss and pain her actions caused. I still love Devin and pray she gets the help she needs. I am not a bum. I am not looking for handouts as one poster suggested. I am truly sorry I've made so many enemies here on DU.

lumberjack_jeff (28,711 posts)
125. It is human nature to want to support the people we know.

on edit:

I would suggest self deleting the OP, as I think there is a lot of misunderstanding and capacity for further pain in leaving it up.

All downside and no upside.

Don't worry - it has been recorded for historical reference...

YarnAddict (1,190 posts)
127. I can understand why you posted it

This situation reminds me of my nephew's good friend, who was involved in a drunk driving accident. She was very, very drunk, rolled her car, and two of her passengers (also very drunk) were killed. She was tried, found guilty, and is awaiting sentencing. She is facing a possible 60 years in prison. I've never met the girl, but still feel a connection through my nephew.

Both her accident and Devin's could have been so easily prevented. My nephew's friend apparently asked for "Safe Ride" coupons (cab fare,) and the bar she was at didn't have any. If they'd had an appropriate supply, she and her friends would have had a cab ride home, and all comisserated together about their horrible hangovers the next day. Instead, two lives were ended, and one's life has been destroyed. (To say nothing of all the others affected.)

If Devin had been taken to jail when she was stopped earlier in the day, her accident never would have happened, either.

The trouble is, young people think they are invincible. They often can't imagine the consequences of their actions. When I think back to my own youth, I can't believe how lucky I was. I sometimes shudder to think of what could have happened . . .

Typical DUmmie - it is ALWAYS somebody else's fault. If they had just called a cab themselves or just not gotten drunk at all then the wreck (it was not an accident) would not have happened.

[GOBUCKS]

My nephew's friend apparently asked for "Safe Ride" coupons (cab fare,) and the bar she was at didn't have any. If they'd had an appropriate supply, she and her friends would have had a cab ride home, and all comisserated together about their horrible hangovers the next day.

Now we're down to the nitty-gritty. It wasn't her fault that she drove drunk and stoned.

You knew from the beginning it was all about a lawsuit.

To a democrat, a tragedy is just grounds for getting free money.

[zeitgeist]

Now we're down to the nitty-gritty. It wasn't her fault that she drove drunk and stoned.

You knew from the beginning it was all about a lawsuit.

To a democrat, a tragedy is just grounds for getting free money.

A wise man once said, "first kill all the lawyers".

[FaC]

Now we're down to the nitty-gritty. It wasn't her fault that she drove drunk and stoned.

You knew from the beginning it was all about a lawsuit.

To a democrat, a tragedy is just grounds for getting free money.

I think this one is a different DUmmie that got wasted and killed somebody.

[vesta111]

Meany a good Christian has refused to press charges against someone who, by ACCIDENT killed one of their kids
   Only down the line do they find they may have saved the lives of others by locking up for a time the malefactors.

You know the old song and dance about how the kids were young and had no idea what they were doing.   BULL SHIT

Kids over the age of 13 know darn well what they are doing and the results of their actions, they just don't care or think somehow they will as a kid not be held up to laws because of their age. 

A 20 year old person who has managed to get past the law and gets to the point of no return, is dangerous   to society and themselves.   

No excuses needed when a family member is harmed.     I have no sympathy for a person that had any kind of life that they use as an excuse to  take the life of another, To rape, rob or get into Gang violence.   

Pray for their soul, what good does that do when some are born missing a finger, a toe or soul.       

[Gina]

Omg did they even mention the girl she killed and the grandfather??? **** that girl that killed.  How about some damn sympathy for the victims???!!!

Eta: read the whole thread. Thank gawd there are upstanding people still gracing that site. Or were they just one time visitors?

[fatboy]

Omg did they even mention the girl she killed and the grandfather??? **** that girl that killed.  How about some damn sympathy for the victims???!!!

If there had been any connection between the driver and the Republican party, conservatives in general, apparent wealth, Evangelical Christians or Pro-life Catholics, the the dump would have been calling for the death penalty right from the start.

The OP, in a ill-fated attempt to get some DUmmy cred, made it sound like she really knew this girl and thus jumped the gun, facts optional. There isn't a shred of evidence to back up the claim that she (the driver) is anything other than trouble and hangs out with trouble. So what would you expect? I guess it's true that there is no such thing as bad publicity to some people.

[zeitgeist]

Omg did they even mention the girl she killed and the grandfather??? **** that girl that killed.  How about some damn sympathy for the victims???!!!

Eta: read the whole thread. Thank gawd there are upstanding people still gracing that site. Or were they just one time visitors?

Let's not get too carried away cutting the DUmmies any slack,  I believe friends [of / or] the family were the objectors.  One had only two posts when I read it.    Not your everyday bleating sheep Dummy who's depth off thought is less than a cup of tea.  OTOH she looks like a stewardess I saw on a recent flight.  Cute girl and sad for all concerned.  Not the type thing one wants to go through life with on either side of this coin.

[Gina]

I have no sympathy for a person that gets behind the wheel buzzed, pilled up, drunk, sleepy, etc.  You are selfish if you do.  You should pay heavy consequences if you hurt an innocent person because of your selfishness.

[DumbAss Tanker]

A wise man once said, "first kill all the lawyers".

You should look that one up, it actually means the opposite of what you think.  The line paraphrased was uttered by one of Shakespeare's bad guys, because he didn't want the common people to have any way of resisting his despotism.  It's a common misconception, started by some long-ago illiterate...probably a journalist, since it's a quote that was stripped of context and so used to say the opposite of what was intended, which is pretty much what journalists do.

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YarnAddict (1,190 posts)
127. I can understand why you posted it

This situation reminds me of my nephew's good friend, who was involved in a drunk driving accident. She was very, very drunk, rolled her car, and two of her passengers (also very drunk) were killed. She was tried, found guilty, and is awaiting sentencing. She is facing a possible 60 years in prison. I've never met the girl, but still feel a connection through my nephew.

Both her accident and Devin's could have been so easily prevented. My nephew's friend apparently asked for "Safe Ride" coupons (cab fare,) and the bar she was at didn't have any. If they'd had an appropriate supply, she and her friends would have had a [FREE] cab ride home, and all comisserated together about their horrible hangovers the next day. Instead, two lives were ended, and one's life has been destroyed. (To say nothing of all the others affected.)

If Devin had been taken to jail when she was stopped earlier in the day, her accident never would have happened, either.

1.  The dumb bitch and her two dead dumb bitch friends could have actually used their OWN money to pay a cab, of course, but somehow that isn't their fault in DUmmie logic.

2.  Every jurisdiction I've ever encountered, except possibly Mayberry, cites and releases for traffic offenses other than DUI (And even that's more for the protection of the offender and public at large than anything else) or outstanding warrants.  They don't take anyone to jail.

[thundley4]

1.  The dumb bitch and her two dead dumb bitch friends could have actually used their OWN money to pay a cab, of course, but somehow that isn't their fault in DUmmie logic.

If you don't have money for cab fare, you don't have money to go drinking either.

[obumazombie]

If you don't have money for cab fare, you don't have money to go drinking either.

Why pay for your own drinks if you assume you are entitled to them ? The plan is to drink for free all night. Unwritten social contracts and conventions get dismissed preemptively.