bluegrass primitive's skeptical

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025575832

Oh my.

kentuck (71,487 posts)    Tue Sep 23, 2014, 05:15 PM

I am skeptical of the entire ISIS operation.

I am not so sure they are not allied with the Syrian government of Assad. Since Russia, Syria's long-time ally, is busy trying to take over Ukraine, it would be a great diversion.
 
Also, I tend to believe it is about who controls the oil fields in Iraq? The US and its allies cannot afford to have Syria or ISIS control the oil fields and to control the wealth from those oil fields. That wealth could buy more and more weaponry, which could not only threaten Iraq and other allies in the region, but also could be a bigger threat to Israel, our number one ally in the region.
 
Also, I am skeptical of the military threat posed by a small army with no air force or navy. They may be a threat to their immediate area but I do not see the international threat that our intelligence and military experts see?
 
I think the American people may have been conned once again, just as they were before the Iraq invasion.
 
Bottom line, it is to protect the oil wells for American interests. It is the oil fields that are being threatened moreso than the people of this country. Just my humble opinion.

dixiegrrrrl (37,259 posts)    Tue Sep 23, 2014, 06:24 PM

1. That PLUS the al-Qaida-affiliated Khorasan Group in Syria we also bombed

because the WH thinks THEY were plotting of an 'imminent' attack against the US.
 
Who-How-When- was never mentioned.

Vattel (4,952 posts)    Tue Sep 23, 2014, 06:27 PM

2. I agree with some of the skepticism,

but how could ISIS be allied with Assad? They have been at war with each other, no?

randome (22,304 posts)    Tue Sep 23, 2014, 06:29 PM

3. You know, sometimes dangerous thugs are simply dangerous thugs.

This isn't about oil unless you have the preconception that it is. This is not PNAC. This is not invading a sovereign country for power.
 
ISIS is a dangerous terrorist threat to anyone they encounter. And they need to be stopped.
 
The simplest explanation is usually the one with the most truth.

trumad (37,339 posts)    Tue Sep 23, 2014, 06:36 PM

7. Not about Oil

It's always about Oil.

J_J_ (207 posts)    Tue Sep 23, 2014, 06:37 PM

9. Mushroom clouds, yellowcake, UAV's, suitcase nukes oh my!!!!

And sometimes the US media lies, making up excuses to make extra money, looting the treasury for 1%ers
 
US media are the dangerous thugs.

kentuck (71,487 posts)    Tue Sep 23, 2014, 06:32 PM

4. Also, I would not discount the animosity between Putin and Obama

Going back to Putin's refusal to turn over Edward Snowden and his invasion of Ukraine, which Obama viewed as a smack in the fsce.

randome (22,304 posts)    Tue Sep 23, 2014, 06:35 PM
in reference to the comment immediately above

6. I was taking you seriously until that. Sorry. Won't let it happen again.

kentuck (71,487 posts)    Tue Sep 23, 2014, 06:38 PM

10. Funny. I didn't think your previous comment was taking anyone seriously either.

Truth is the first casualty in war and I doubt that this "war" is any different. Just like Bush didn't like that Saddam tried to "kill his Daddy", leaders sometimes make decisions for personal reasons. It is not unheard of.

J_J_ (207 posts)    Tue Sep 23, 2014, 06:34 PM

5. the same lying fearmongering media led the lies before, why would anyone believe them now?

I think a person would have to be pretty damn stupid to not be skeptical.

Marr (16,205 posts)    Tue Sep 23, 2014, 06:37 PM

8. I'm not convinced it's an actual organization. It seems like marketing;

like a slick name applied to a patchwork of little militias and groups of thugs. So you could say ISIS is doing any number of things, and allied with/funded by any number of people/groups-- because it's basically just shorthand for 'people who are violently opposed to the west, and live in this general area'.

951-Riverside (5,605 posts)    Tue Sep 23, 2014, 06:50 PM

11. Re: "I am not so sure they (ISIS) are not allied with the Syrian government of Assad"

**** it! This is getting absurd.

Just cut the bullshit and bomb the shit out of Assad, let the rebels take it all and **** over whatever is left. I'm just sick and tired of the spin, the propaganda, the bullshit and the excuses, just go in there and get it done with then move on to the next country.
 
Lets be honest here, its not like the American people will do anything except spend a weekend walking around DC or NY like cattle and mooing about "No war", "bring our troops home", "sign my online petition maaaan" then head to their little poling boxes where they get to vote for one of two candidates that have been pre-selected for them.

[franksolich]

comment 2569:
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=81827.2550

[Carl]

Then in the next thread they will swear a vague Presidential daily briefing less then 7 months into office was all President Bush needed to prevent 9/11.

[Mr Mannn]

trumad (37,339 posts)    Tue Sep 23, 2014, 06:36 PM

7. Not about Oil

It's always about Oil.

So this is, "Obama's war for oil." I guess that makes it OK until President Cruz inherits the war, then the media will wail about the poor innocent waifs in ISIS.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Numbers-Riverside sure shows them how to go large on the skepticism.