an open letter to NYC_SKP

[franksolich]

Hey, Skips.  Sir.  Yesterday, you posted this on democraticunderground:

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NYC_SKP (60,291 posts) Thu Aug 21, 2014, 02:15 PM

3. It rhymed with "conservative cave" and another one rhymed with "old elm tree", both are sorry ass.

The first is truly the one that shall not be named, so I won't name it.

We are legend there, I and others have been named, and they stalk and try to guess real identities of people here.

It's as ugly as the internet can be.

The other site is for bitter folks who don't or didn't like DU or who were banned from DU2, and the moderators are all former famous DUers.

They have a special board called the Pizza Party forum, for, well, you can figure it out.

It's still there, but not a lot of traffic.

Don't feed the trolls. But I do think it's a public service that we know about both boards, especially CC where they would do anything to ruin one of our lives.

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Now, it doesn’t make any difference to me, Skips, whether you read this or not, but it needs said.

Number one, where in all the annals of conservativecave, is there any instance of “stalking”?

I mean “stalking” in both the dictionary and legal senses of the word, not what it’s commonly assumed to be with the crowd you hang with. 

According to your peers, merely reading something and quoting it is “stalking.”

Well, damn.  I must be a stalker.  Earlier today, I read a biography of Doris Kearns Goodwin, and quoted from it.  I guess I was “stalking” her then, and being a decent and civilized person, I’ll have to stop it.

Reading something and quoting it for further dissemination is not “stalking.”

It’s merely “reading something and quoting it for further dissemination.”

Being someone in whom other members of conservativecave put a great deal of trust and confidence if there was any unethical business going on instigated by a member of conservativecave, I’m sure I’d know about it.

Using the dictionary and legal definitions of “stalking,” no one from conservativecave has ever stalked a member of democraticunderground.

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Number two, as to “learning the [real-life] identities” of members of democraticunderground, conservativecave is as guilty as Hell, “guilty” in the sense that someone’s occasionally “guilty” of winning the Powerball jackpot.

Your colleagues, Skips, have big and loose mouths, carelessly splattering personal real-life information about themselves all over the place.

I, for one, have never had to “look up” a member of democraticunderground, nor have I ever had the impulse to do so.   All good things come to him who waits; maybe not as fast as one wishes, or at a convenient time for one, but inevitably, one of your pals spills the beans about himself without any prompting from any of us on this side.

And sitting around “waiting” for something beats actually going out to get it; no work, no toil, no sweat, no labor, no wear-and-tear on the computer keyboard and mouse “googling.”

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A minor digression, if you will:

There was a case a couple of days ago here on conservativecave where two different members revealed the personal identities of two once-prominent members of democraticunderground; no malice involved, it was done purely by accident.  Nobody’s perfect.

Given that the two posts revealed personal information in a public forum, I yanked them out of the thread and tucked them away where the general public can’t see them.

I’m a nice guy, one of the nicest guys one can ever hope to meet; I wish you’d realize that, Skips.

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Number three, as for “trying to ruin one of [your] lives,” there had been high hopes when the DUmpster, a single forum of many on conservativecave, came into being, that somehow, in some manner, some of your colleagues could become illuminated as to the silliness and suicidalness of their sentiments, evolving into decent and civilized people.

I assume that’s what you mean by “ruining” a life, Skips, someone abandoning the stale old stupid ideas and sentiments expressed on democraticunderground, deserting the rest of you.  It’s a phenomenon common for those who quit drinking, whose still-drinking friends grouse that “he’s ruined his life.”

We had high expectations, but alas after seven long years, the trophy room bearing the mounted heads of members of democraticunderground remains utterly empty, cobwebs spreading all over in it.

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Dude.  Each of us is responsible for the consequences of words that come out of our own mouths.

Having been on political message-boards on the internet since July 1995, franksolich has said a great many things, and it doesn’t help that franksolich, being a fallible human, has said some things that I later wished I hadn't, mostly for their silliness.

Perhaps I shouldn’t have written some things that I wrote, but what’s done is done, and can’t be undone, so there’s no point in regretting it, these periodic episodes of coming across like a clown or an ass.

One just moves on.  You should try that, Skips, just moving on.  It’d dispel your unreasonable paranoia considerably.

[USA4ME]

Skippy's problem is the same problem all the primitives possess; they refuse to look in the mirror and see in themselves all the nasty things they say about others. I see a thread over there stating "We liberals are the problem," then content that counts down all the ways in which their ideology has violated the US Constitution and made life worse for many people here and around the world, followed up by the PoP and many others acknowledging that's the case and vowing to turn over a new leaf, and then see their words backed up by their deeds, then we can reaccess The DUmpster and its purpose.

Until then, we keep doing what we do.

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