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Warren's Message Popular On Campaign Trail Across Country
« on: July 14, 2014, 01:58:50 AM »
In a way I do so hope they run Warren... but I never thought the country would elect Barry- so maybe they had better not.

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Warren's Message Popular On Campaign Trail Across Country
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014845332

Source: ASSOCIATED PRESS

STEVE LEBLANC – JULY 13, 2014, 7:59 AM EDT

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (AP) — Sen. Elizabeth Warren is quickly becoming a top Democratic fundraising and campaigning powerhouse, hitting the road on behalf of candidates in key races the party will need to win to retain control of the U.S. Senate in November.

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Star Member Scuba (38,935 posts)
1. She's the star of the Party, despite the best efforts of the Third Way.

Compared to Hillary and Biden? We are digging  pretty low, kids. I would love to be there when Hillary gets the word the nomination when to Warren though. Epic.

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2. I so wish she would change her mind about running She is what this country sooo needs.
Hopefully some of what she is saying is trickling down the MSM.

 Picture in your mind the MSM covering Warren like they covered Barry during the election process. That's what we will have to look forward to.

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3. ONe of the bellwethers on how well Warren is doing will be Joe Scarborough...

I am warily watching his show for what he has to say about her. MIka loves her but he doesn't say all that much about Warren. Sooner or later I think he and other self styled "reasonable" conservatives (HA!) have to say something to damage her populist image. If she gains traction for Dems on the campaign trail the GOP will have to decide on a strategy to "contain" her. Usually, Joe's show is the one where the GOP plants their flag in the MSM early on.

Betcha any amount of money that we'll be hearing from Joe fairly soon. I know, I know. Ya'll can't stand to watch him (I don't blame you). But I watch so you don't have to...LOL

They will run her as the first female native american to run for president...

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Star Member Voice for Peace (10,831 posts)
24. I think she speaks the language that many Republicans want to hear as well.

Not the ones in office, or on the fringe, but the good old-
fashioned republicans. The ones who haven't followed
politics very closely for a long time and are now considering
leaving the party or not voting at all.

I think there are many.

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10. I wonder

if Sen. Warren were to somehow end up our nominee, whether Dr. Warren would be co-opted by the real power that is, corporate money. The nominee, once in office, no matter republican or democrat, owes so much to so many corporate interests, who pump millions into political campaigns, that they usually are effectively 'converted' to the corporate ways of running our country. Republicans much easier I would like to think. Just surmising, I do not mean to impugn Dr. Warren's integrity or honesty. It's just that I do know that big money has poisoned our system and until we get back to the limits on campaign spending, all elections are moot.

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cosmicone (5,446 posts)
13. although I love Sen. Warren

she is only good for energizing the base but is unlikely to move right-tilting independents.

She will not be a good presidential candidate unlike HRC who can carry a lot of swing states.

Sen. Warren is 100 times (at least) intelligent than Sarah Palin with no insanity factor like SP but in terms of energizing the liberal, ultra-liberal and extreme-liberal base, she serves the same function for us as SP does for wingnuts.

Sure she is...

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43. I don't think you understand the dynamic running through the country right now...

There is a very strong populism running, not just among Democrats and Liberals, but among Republicans and Conservatives. Particularly in areas of wanting money out of politics, redistribution of power to people over corporations, reduction in corruption, and of course more jobs. Elizabeth Warren is VERY strong on all those points. HRC is not. If you doubt me, all you need do is look at the tone Hilliary has adopted over the last couple of weeks. A quick comparison will show Hillary is trying to claim the same tone and message Elizabeth Warren has been espousing from the get-go.

Add to that equation Hilliary's recent checkered past, and Elizabeth Warren's lack of a checkered past, and it becomes very clear very fast that Elizabeth Warren would far and away be the superior candidate.

Hilliary is a corporatist, pure and simple. If we want the next several supreme court justices to be corporatists as well, then Hillary is the way to go. If we want reasonable thinking minds on the supreme court, then, since Elizabeth Warren has already stated quite clearly she is not running, Bernie Sanders is our best choice... hopefully with Elizabeth Warren as VP.

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56. Do you think EW got the $42 million to run for senator from small donors?

It is going to be a replay of the Hillary vs Barry fights that DU was so full of in 2008. Glorious.

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Ash_F (3,991 posts)
48. Have you seen how Americans poll on most issues?

Hillary is right of center.

Hillary isn't going to swing 'right tilting independents' either, compared to Warren. Who's vote do you think she can get based on specifically what issue?

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26. Lt us speak of effects for a moment rather than intentions.

Warren's barnstorming this year has a couple of major effects.

First, there is the obvious surface effect. She strengthens the campaigns of those for whom she stumps. This will have the obvious effect of helping to hold the Senate and maybe make some gains in the House.Warren needs that if she is to advance any sort of liberal agenda.

Second, she is setting up something of a power base among those she helps, which could be very useful no matter what role she plays in the future.

Third, she increases her own name/face/agenda recognition, both testing and enhancing her popularity across the country. While this development doesn't necessarily presage a 2016 Presidential run, it certainly doesn't harm the prospects for one.

Thus, regardless of her actual intentions at this point, her actions may have the result of setting her up for a Draft Liz movement.

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33. I haven't heard of Hillary stumping for these senate hopefuls.

Or is it enough that she already carries the tiara under her arm and is only waiting for the right moment to don it? Smug with the impending ordainment and the veto pen that goes with it. Hillary's too busy deciding to run at the moment.

Yes, I'm sarcastically summarizing. But it's because I'm VERY unhappy with our nomination being a forgone conclusion. Why even vote, if this is the way things are done now???

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44. She's a "foregone conclusion" and the "chosen one" because corporations are trying to force her down our throats. If she is the only option for Democrats, then corporations win.
They LOVE Hillary because she's a corporatist.

Bottom line is this: she is NOT a "foregone conclusion" or the "chosen one" no matter what they say.
It is our choice, not theirs.
Its that simple.

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51. BHO used to be like this. Then he got elected, and, well ... He got a terminal case of "bi-partisanship."

Barry is bi-partisan? More likely Bi-sexual.

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Doctor_J (29,762 posts)
53. yes and people are probably skeptical now about populist rhetoric

The president's governance has been nothing like his campaign, so hopeful voters will think twice about swallowing the stump speeches

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59. It would probably be best to halt the EW doesn't takw money from Wall street

Or corporations. She has admitted this and the GOP is tracking this also. She will be placed in a position of continuous denial or questioning her about this.

http://www.americancrossroads.org/2012/01/elizabeth-warren-i-do-have-donors-on-wall-street/

wait for it...

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67. It is bad form on DU to link right wing sites

Especially those run by KKKarl Rove. Shame on you!

I already had two moles alert on the post!

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yurbud (33,966 posts)
62. DLC/New Dems carefully calibrating how much of this they can say without pissing off their masters and/or telling them behind closed doors, "Look, I have to do this Elizabeth Warren shtick to get (re)elected, but once I'm back in office, it's just you and me again and **** the little people, I swear to God."

Actually some of them like Rahm, I can't even imagine going that far.

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80. Warren is outstanding. She is a populist and keeps advancing things that would actually HELP the American people. A winning message.

Nominating Warren would be the next worst thing since nominating Barry. At least the worst thing for the country that is.
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Re: Warren's Message Popular On Campaign Trail Across Country
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2014, 07:13:11 AM »
Sounds like Fauxcahontas is benefiting from ABC among Ds - Anybody But the Chill.
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Re: Warren's Message Popular On Campaign Trail Across Country
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2014, 07:32:17 AM »
E.W. will promise everyone free candy and deliver sour pickles.
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Re: Warren's Message Popular On Campaign Trail Across Country
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2014, 10:22:51 AM »
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Re: Warren's Message Popular On Campaign Trail Across Country
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2014, 11:05:39 AM »
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3. ONe of the bellwethers on how well Warren is doing will be Joe Scarborough...

.... Usually, Joe's show is the one where the GOP plants their flag in the MSM early on.

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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2014, 11:17:21 AM »
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3. ONe of the bellwethers on how well Warren is doing will be Joe Scarborough...

.... Usually, Joe's show is the one where the GOP plants their flag in the MSM early on.

Dude...get a clue.  No GOP'er watches MSNBC or considers Joe Scarborough a conservative.

The primitives are clueless about us.

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Re: Warren's Message Popular On Campaign Trail Across Country
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2014, 12:09:02 PM »
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3. ONe of the bellwethers on how well Warren is doing will be Joe Scarborough...

Usually, Joe's show is the one where the GOP plants their flag in the MSM early on.

Spongebob Squarepants has a far bigger audience, and more political influence, than anyone on PMSNBC.

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Re: Warren's Message Popular On Campaign Trail Across Country
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2014, 01:51:40 PM »
 :rotf: I can just imagine Hillary's face when she gets skipped over AGAIN  :rotf:






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Re: Warren's Message Popular On Campaign Trail Across Country
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2014, 01:54:32 PM »
:rotf: I can just imagine Hillary's face when she gets skipped over AGAIN  :rotf:
It's going to be tough to see her face...

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Re: Warren's Message Popular On Campaign Trail Across Country
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2014, 03:31:44 PM »
They really do live in a bubble. People don't want another 4 years of Barry. Warren is nothing but a Barry clone with a vagina and crow feathers.

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Re: Warren's Message Popular On Campaign Trail Across Country
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2014, 03:54:00 PM »
E.W. will promise everyone free candy and deliver sour pickles.

Pretty much...it'll be a lot of 'Free shit for everyone, we'll get the money for it from beating up the eeevil corps and banksters, and I will protect you all from all the meanies.'  If she ever gets elected, it'll quickly become apparent that the free shit comes with a huge price in personal freedom, and that pretty soon there's nobody left to pay the bills for all that 'Free' stuff, and 'Taking care of us' looks a lot like being in Stalin's Soviet Union.
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2014, 05:15:01 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2014, 05:41:20 PM »
I still think we see Hillary and it's going to scare the crap out of me because what do we have to counter it? I used to believe in the collective intelligence of the voters in this country but I don't any more since 2008.
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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2014, 08:09:46 PM »
I still think we see Hillary and it's going to scare the crap out of me because what do we have to counter it? I used to believe in the collective intelligence of the voters in this country but I don't any more since 2008.

We actually have a pretty deep bench if we look beyond RINO's. I think a rock ribbed conservative will be the next president. The country has had enough far left for a while. The political pendulum won't swing far enough to the right with a RINO. I think Walker would make an excellent candidate/president. They've come at him with everything they've got and he's still standing.

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Re: Warren's Message Popular On Campaign Trail Across Country
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2014, 10:44:30 PM »
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3. ONe of the bellwethers on how well Warren is doing will be Joe Scarborough...

.... Usually, Joe's show is the one where the GOP plants their flag in the MSM early on.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Right.  The lowest rated network news sets the tone, eh?   Bell Weather.  Feel it, idiots.

What a whack-job!


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Re: Warren's Message Popular On Campaign Trail Across Country
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2014, 09:50:23 AM »
I still think we see Hillary and it's going to scare the crap out of me because what do we have to counter it? I used to believe in the collective intelligence of the voters in this country but I don't any more since 2008.

It's quite possible, but until early 2016, there's a whole lot of room for a far-Leftie perceived as a populist (Like Warren), or a mainstream Dem power player (Like Rahm) to successfully challenge her in the primaries.

Frankly I don't see much difference between Hillary and Christie, in fact Hitlery with a Opposition Congress would be less damaging than Christie with a same-party Congress, since there'd at least be a check on the flow of stupid authoritarian ideas without a claim of having a mandate.

If the Dems ran Joe Manchen and the GOP ran Chris Christie, I'd have to vote for the first Dem Presidential candidate I've ever supported (Though I don't actually remember if I voted in the Ford-Carter election, or for whom, since it happened when I was a young troop overseas and I think I might have been in the field for all or almost all of the absentee voting window for my state at the time).
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Re: Warren's Message Popular On Campaign Trail Across Country
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2014, 10:23:47 AM »
I still think we see Hillary and it's going to scare the crap out of me because what do we have to counter it? I used to believe in the collective intelligence of the voters in this country but I don't any more since 2008.

I am not even sure Hill will run to be honest,I know she wants it more then life itself but there was a reason dems went with the blank slate in 2008 when anyone would have likely beat McCain.
Her negatives were high then and will be higher now.

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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2014, 10:54:43 AM »
I am not even sure Hill will run to be honest,I know she wants it more then life itself but there was a reason dems went with the blank slate in 2008 when anyone would have likely beat McCain.
Her negatives were high then and will be higher now.
I hope you're right.
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I guess I should ask him about Hitlery.
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Re: Warren's Message Popular On Campaign Trail Across Country
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2014, 11:02:43 AM »
I hope you're right.
When Clinton came along I thought there was no way a smooth talking hustler lothario could get elected.
My brother in law set me straight, so that when owebuma came along even though my gut told me no way could a no experience hack get elected, I remembered how wrong I was about Clinton and how right my brother in law was.
I guess I should ask him about Hitlery.

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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2014, 11:56:20 AM »
When I saw Obama give the keynote speech at the '04 Dem national Convention, something told me, "This guy's trouble.  Watch out for him."  I don't get that feeling--yet--from any of the current crop of hopefuls.

Exactly,he was being pushed into the role early on.
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