« previous next »
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment  (Read 1551 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline landofconfusion80

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4304
  • Reputation: +619/-116
Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
« on: July 07, 2014, 12:44:09 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025206364
Quote
Marrah_G (24,946 posts)

How do we combat RW radio and news?

 I watched Hotel Rwanda last night. The murder of a million people was propelled through lies and hate spread through the radio there.
 
I see the same sort of thing happening here. Hate radio and propaganda news stations fundamentally change the way people view things. I have seen it in my own birth family after they moved to the south. They are so swarmed with hate talk radio and RW bullshit that they have actually started to believe it. The only way to stop them is to go after the advertisers. Rush has lost most of his advertisers due to public backlash.
 
So the question I throw out for discussion is how do we do this on a wide scale? How do we get the masses to let the advertisers know we won't tolerate it any more?
 
My hope for this thread is that it will be filled with ideas because Duers are some of the smartest folks I know.

Primitive must not know many people.  Surely the smartest people he knows will explain why banning the first amendment is a bad idea....

Quote
leftyohiolib (5,597 posts)

1. i think sandra fluke episode killed political radio. the right is now supported by kock brothers

and not thru ad buys and the left has to goto the i-net. unless the left finds a couple of kock-brothers to support left radio. but people are turning to the right cause the right is telling them what they want to hear
Would they be looking for answers elsewhere if they believed their current condition was satisfactory? hmmm....

Quote
el_bryanto (7,692 posts)

5. Well you have to ask what does RW radio and Fox News provide? Why do Right Wingers seek them out?

They are businesses (although they obviously get subsidies (particularly in the case of RW Radio)), so they provide something their viewers/listeners want.
 
I think what they provide is a space where in RWers know that their beliefs won't be challenged but will be confirmed. If you want to know how people can deny climate change, well, if you listen to Limbaugh and Hannity and watch Fox News, you will be told again and again how it's just a theory and real scientists know that it's all nonsense.
 
I don't think LWers are looking to be cut off from the world in the same way. Yes we have our conspiracy nuts, and we have people who never want to see what the right wing has to say, but they aren't as common. Partially that's because our arguments can generally stand up to more scrutiny, and partially it's because we acknowledge we might be wrong, and so want to see both sides of an issue before we make up our minds.
The other issue is the subsidies mentioned above - many of these outlets had a certain cushion - they could take their time building an audience because the Koch Brothers (for example) would give them that time. I don't think LW outlets have the same cushion.
 
Bryant
Like PBS and NPR?

So much wrong in the bolded....
Logged
One Who Grows (244 posts)
20. absolute bullshit. the cave is unspeakably vile.

I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

:)

Offline BlueStateSaint

  • Here I come to save the day, because I'm a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32553
  • Reputation: +1560/-191
  • RIP FDNY Lt. Rich Nappi d. 4/16/12
Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2014, 01:04:40 PM »
This one stood out to me (in the OP):

Quote
Rush has lost most of his advertisers due to public backlash.

Really?  Then why have advertisers that jumped ship come back to him, on their knees?
Logged
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

"All you have to do is look straight and see the road, and when you see it, don't sit looking at it - walk!" -Ayn Rand
 
"Those that trust God with their safety must yet use proper means for their safety, otherwise they tempt Him, and do not trust Him.  God will provide, but so must we also." - Matthew Henry, Commentary on 2 Chronicles 32, from Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible

"These anti-gun fools are more dangerous to liberty than street criminals or foreign spies."--Theodore Haas, Dachau Survivor

Chase her.
Chase her even when she's yours.
That's the only way you'll be assured to never lose her.

Offline Rebel

  • MAGA
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16934
  • Reputation: +1384/-215
Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2014, 01:18:22 PM »
Quote
el_bryanto (7,692 posts)
 
I think what they provide is a space where in RWers know that their beliefs won't be challenged but will be confirmed.

OH the irony.  :whatever:
Logged
NAMBLA is a left-wing organization.

Quote
There's a reason why patriotism is considered a conservative value. Watch a Tea Party rally and you'll see people proudly raising the American flag and showing pride in U.S. heroes such as Thomas Jefferson. Watch an OWS rally and you'll see people burning the American flag while showing pride in communist heroes such as Che Guevera. --Bob, from some news site

Offline obumazombie

  • Siege engine to lib fortresses
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 21814
  • Reputation: +1661/-578
  • Last of the great minorities
Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2014, 01:26:55 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on July 07, 2014, 01:18:22 PM
OH the irony.  :whatever:
Irony is such a weak word when it comes to libs. It should be isilvery, or igoldy.
Logged
There were only two options for gender. At last count there are at least 12, according to libs. By that standard, I'm a male lesbian.

Offline FlippyDoo

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2483
  • Reputation: +1265/-14
  • Your president, too.
Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2014, 01:32:54 PM »
Quote
el_bryanto (7,692 posts)

5. Well you have to ask what does RW radio and Fox News provide? Why do Right Wingers seek them out?

They are businesses (although they obviously get subsidies (particularly in the case of RW Radio)), so they provide something their viewers/listeners want.
 
I think what they provide is a space where in RWers know that their beliefs won't be challenged but will be confirmed. If you want to know how people can deny climate change, well, if you listen to Limbaugh and Hannity and watch Fox News, you will be told again and again how it's just a theory and real scientists know that it's all nonsense.
 
I don't think LWers are looking to be cut off from the world in the same way. Yes we have our conspiracy nuts, and we have people who never want to see what the right wing has to say, but they aren't as common. Partially that's because our arguments can generally stand up to more scrutiny, and partially it's because we acknowledge we might be wrong, and so want to see both sides of an issue before we make up our minds.
The other issue is the subsidies mentioned above - many of these outlets had a certain cushion - they could take their time building an audience because the Koch Brothers (for example) would give them that time. I don't think LW outlets have the same cushion.
 
Bryant

And that's why you post at DU because you want to see both sides of an issue before making up your minds? George Zimmerman says thank you. Global Climate change says thank you. Christians say thank you. Gun owners say thank you. George W. Bush says thank you.

Oh! And you acknowledge you might be wrong? Okay. Good story. By the way, Santa Claus wants to know where you're hiding the easter bunny and the tooth fairy.
Logged
Fictional spirit-guiding by appointment.
conservativecave.com & conservativeunderground.com

For new members and lurkers: I am a fictional spirit-guide with no smell whatsoever. I am part irish setter and part pigeon. If you don't smell any strange smells it means I'm probably standing next to you. As I am a fictional character anything I post should possibly be considered fictional.

Offline JohnnyReb

  • In Memoriam
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32063
  • Reputation: +1998/-134
Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2014, 02:08:23 PM »
Don't the DUmmies have their side George Sore-ass the Jew that for cash told the Nazis where to find Jews? ....Yes, yes they do.
Logged
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."  Stalin

Offline Karin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17752
  • Reputation: +1895/-81
Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2014, 02:22:58 PM »
Quote
lpbk2713 (25,115 posts)

2. Just as an aside ...
 
 It still worries me that Limbaugh is still carried on Armed Forces Radio.
 Even though he has been proven beyond doubt a liar, hatemonger and
 totally against what most of the rest of us believe in.
 

Hey El  Bryanto, you want to talk about bubbles? 

Only 5 replies, the brilliant ideas have not materialized from the smartest people on earth.  Over 25 years now they've been trying to stifle Rush?  It's not working. 
Logged

Offline Gina

  • Tinker Twat
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13088
  • Reputation: +830/-102
  • Short Bus bound!
Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2014, 02:25:57 PM »
Quote
leftyohiolib (5,597 posts)

1. i think sandra fluke episode killed political radio. the right is now supported by kock brothers

and not thru ad buys and the left has to goto the i-net. unless the left finds a couple of kock-brothers to support left radio. but people are turning to the right cause the right is telling them what they want to hear

Ol Lefty sure does like that word  :rotf:
Logged






"An army of deer led by a lion is more to be feared than an army of lions led by a deer." Phillip of Macedonia, father to Alexander.

Offline landofconfusion80

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4304
  • Reputation: +619/-116
Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2014, 02:38:52 PM »
Quote from: Gina on July 07, 2014, 02:25:57 PM
Ol Lefty sure does like that word  :rotf:

Quite the homophobic tone they take when discussing such things.
Logged
One Who Grows (244 posts)
20. absolute bullshit. the cave is unspeakably vile.

I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

:)

Offline 98ZJUSMC

  • The Most Deplorable
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8424
  • Reputation: +436/-76
  • Now, with 99% less yellow!
Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2014, 05:45:45 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on July 07, 2014, 01:18:22 PM
OH the irony.  :whatever:

To which they are completely unaware.

Quote
partially it's because we acknowledge we might be wrong,

"Things that have never happened" for $1000, Alex.
Logged
              

Liberal thinking is a two-legged stool and magical thinking is one of the legs, the other is a combination of self-loating and misanthropy.  To understand it, you would have to be able to sit on that stool while juggling two elephants, an anvil and a fragmentation grenade, sans pin.

"Accuse others of what you do." - Karl Marx

Offline Dori

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7964
  • Reputation: +406/-39
Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2014, 06:58:06 PM »
Hey DUmmies, the only people being fooled are you idiots.

I'll tell you why talk radio and FOX are popular....it's because before they came along you could only get leftist views, lies and half truths.

Now that our side finally has a voice, you fascist bass tards can't stand it.



Logged
“How fortunate for governments that the people     they administer don't think”  Adolph Hitler

Offline Big Dog

  • ^^Smokes cigars and knows things.
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15581
  • Reputation: +1954/-213
Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2014, 07:48:53 PM »
Quote from: Gina on July 07, 2014, 02:25:57 PM
Ol Lefty sure does like that word  :rotf:

... in his mouth.
Logged
Government is the negation of liberty.
  -Ludwig von Mises

CAVE FVROREM PATIENTIS.

Offline Carl

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 19839
  • Reputation: +1618/-100
Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2014, 08:01:32 PM »
Quote from: Dori on July 07, 2014, 06:58:06 PM
Hey DUmmies, the only people being fooled are you idiots.

I'll tell you why talk radio and FOX are popular....it's because before they came along you could only get leftist views, lies and half truths.

Now that our side finally has a voice, you fascist bass tards can't stand it.

Dori is going kick ass!  :cheersmate:
Logged

Offline Ptarmigan

  • Bunny Slayer
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24128
  • Reputation: +1021/-226
  • God Hates Bunnies
Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2014, 10:27:20 PM »
DUmmies are just Fascists.
Logged
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
-Napoleon Bonaparte

Allow enemies their space to hate; they will destroy themselves in the process.
-Lisa Du
Pages: [1]   Go Up
« previous next »