DUmp monkie is OFFENSIVE!

[dutch508]

Sat Jul 5, 2014, 03:29 PM http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251369823
 calimary (34,787 posts)

Hey guys - if I may - I'd like to start a series of discussions regarding "Going On OFFENSE."
As a matter of fact, I think I'll call it that.

 I think we need to start thinking and strategizing ON OFFENSE. Hijacking the kkkarl rove strategies and RNC playbook pages, and turning them to weapons we can use in OUR favor. Indeed, weaponizing their strategies - OUR way, for a change.

Any thoughts? I've written some insufferably (I'm SURE!) long posts here and there that I actually think are worthy of more DUers' consideration. Look where we are - with our backs against the wall, relatively un-organized, trying all kinds of things that haven't worked and have lost us ground on the issues and the progress that we have all worked toward for decades and on which we are now losing ground, dramatically, and all over the place. I'd like to make some of those posts into separate threads, or chapters if you will, that might help some of us organize our thoughts further and ourselves into more effective activists or groups of activists.

We need new attack strategies. Based on NEW ways of thinking and analyzing conditions that surround us now. I think there are many gold nuggets to be found in there, that we can use and exploit. I think maybe such discussions might lend themselves to developing new ways to attack, rebut, refute, deflate, splinter, confuse, confound the enemy. And let's be clear. They are THE ENEMY. The forces against us - teabagger, religious extremist, extremist CONservative, corporatist, willfully ignorant, and apathetic - and the well-organized RNC/GOP/etc infrastructure - are formidable. And they are ADAMANTLY against us. They want to destroy and dismantle EVERYTHING we've built and worked so hard to develop and put into place for the benefit of ALL, not just the privileged few.

We need to religiously, relentlessly, even militantly reinforce OUR message and do it in unexpected and more clever and creative and yes, DEVIOUS ways.

First of all - let's establish our camp: illustrated quite nicely by this essay: "A Day in the Life of Joe Republican"

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/21/1093478/-A-Day-in-the-Life-of-Joe-Republican

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

 


He has two more posts, Part 2 and Part 3 as well...

I was not aware that Fundamentalist Christianity was also known as Christian Fundamentalism...

calimary (34,787 posts)

GOING ON OFFENSE Part Two: "Christians"? They sure don't act like Christians.
Let's look at one of the most beloved and militantly supported framing issue the enemy uses and cleaves to: Their extreme embrace of their bastardized, cockeyed, carefully tweezer'd, distorted, and manipulated view of "Christianity."

From the thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025182223

I actually think we should start loudly and publicly challenging their claims of being "Christian."

True Christians honor Jesus's version of the Golden Rule: Do unto others ... in His view it was "whatever you do to the least of these, you do to Me."

Is shouting and bullying and terrorizing a busload of unattended children from a foreign land, all of them alone, confused, probably frightened to death at this rabble in front of them, no one to turn to, no one to trust - is THAT taking care of "the least of these"? Seriously?

Is insisting YOUR views trump the health and welfare of the people working for you who need insurance coverage taking care of "the least of these"? Especially when it's women and others who are working low-pay jobs where you also whine and moan and groan about having to pay them a higher minimum wage? 'Zat good for "the least of these"?

Is swaggering around with your automatic rifles and other assorted massacre machines in public, in stores, in malls, in fast-food joints and other general-interest restaurants because YOU DEMAND the right to swagger and intimidate and bully - how's THAT for taking care of "the least of these"?

Does bellyaching about paying a few dollars extra in taxes so the poor can eat, and throwing hissy fits in public about how aggrieved you supposedly are - how's THAT for taking care of "the least of these"?

Does giving aid and comfort to the rich, the money-changers, and all others who are doing just FINE, thank you, and don't need any help from anybody, so those who really DO need the help - does THAT take care of "the least of these"?

Does cutting back so mercilessly on women's health clinics and hospitals both, because you hate the idea of women having the right to decide important things for themselves and also you hate the idea that anything out there will sustain the Affordable Care Act (which most of you don't realize is the dreaded "Obamacare" you think you despise because it's another freebie for moochers.

Modern-day christianity (I question the whole idea of capitalizing the word in this type of case - seems to me this kind of alleged "Christianity" is really anything but!) is so damn CRUEL! With what clearly appears to be a view of life in which there's supposed to be pain and suffering, either meted out or allowed by an unforgiving, punishing God. To put it in crudely and heathen-esque, you weren't supposed to have any fun. I suppose this is an across-the-eons extension of Adam and Eve being evicted from the Garden of Eden.

Indeed, when I was pregnant the first time, I read as much as I could find about that whole business and I came across one passage that described the "controversy" ("controversy?" Huh? Whaddya mean "controversy"?) over, of all things, the epidural, which an obstetrician administers during labor for pain relief. BELIEVE ME! Any woman who is going through childbirth the hard way, you WANT that epidural BIGTIME!!! CRIMINY!!! Sounds like something that is so broadly acceptable and deemed essential that it just sorta goes without saying, doesn't it? Well! I didn't know that at one time there were VERY strong voices raised against epidurals from pastors and ministers and conservatives of the day (Conservatives! Hah, figures. Color me shocked. NOT!). Those primordial limbaughs and swaggarts objected to ANY pain relief being made available to a woman in active labor. ANY of it. Why? Because it was part of the price she was expected to pay for the Sin of Eve. Childbirth was supposed to hurt. You weren't supposed to interfere with that, it was God's will. It wasn't for you to go against God's will and try to change that or alleviate the pain in any way. It was a women-only toll bridge - indeed, a bridge to nowhere.

I was shocked to read this. Astonished! I hadn't known that. That there were actually people who opposed and actively fought the practice of alleviating labor pains - because it was the sin that womankind for which atonement was expected - from the Daughters of Eve. Yep, we were expected to pick up the tab for that by enduring unrelieved but easily relievable pain!!! CRAP! What the HELL!?!?! Because we weren't worthy of happiness until and unless we reached their God's Heaven at the end of the line? WHAT????

I wonder if what we have here are the sons and daughters of the Puritans. Heck, I remember reading about how, back in the day, even dancing was considered improper, because, again, the underlying philosophy was about the severity of life, how everything was about work and no time for fun. Just slogging through the years, the hard way, where suffering is king and you're aiming for something in the afterlife rather than the now or even the foreseeable future.

I was looking around, considering whether this was latter-day Calvinism or something and when I attempted to look that up, I found this:

Fundamentalist Christianity, also known as Christian fundamentalism, is defined by historian George M. Marsden as "militantly anti-modernist Protestant evangelicalism." Marsden explains that fundamentalists were evangelical Christians who in the 20th century "militantly opposed both modernism in theology and the cultural changes that modernism endorsed. Militant opposition to modernism was what most clearly set off fundamentalism." The name is taken from the title of a series of essays published by the Bible Institute of Los Angeles, The Fundamentals: A Testimony to the Truth.

https://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Fundamentalist_Christianity.html

"Militantly anti-modernist." AHA! I think we've found our truth! They don't want modern times. No wonder a lot of 'em want so badly to "take their America BACK." As in BACKWARDS. We weren't allowed to progress or evolve. No wonder they don't believe in evolution either. Weren't no birth control back in the day (when we was ridin' 'n' ropin' them dinosaur varmints...) or some such thing, so we certainly can't enjoy that modern scientific advancement now. Maybe they want us all back in the day when we had to chisel words into stone, or press them into wet clay? Even that probably wouldn't be acceptable to them.

Hold on... there is more...

Sat Jul 5, 2014, 03:47 PM
 calimary (34,787 posts)

GOING ON OFFENSE Part Three: NEVER Underestimate the Enemy
Or, in short, "THINK TERMITES." I think we need to remind ourselves of this unfortunate fact every day. No - every hour. No - every minute on the minute! NEVER forget this, because the safety and security of YOUR rights are at stake.

From the DU thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025177053

These people are fanatics. They can - no, they SHOULD be expected to work ANY loophole, no matter how small, and eat away at it til it's bigger, and no longer even a mere crack - but rather, a yawning CHASM.

Figure it this way: What would any rats or termites do? They find one little teeny hole or crack or way in, and they take it. And then they start gnawing away til the crack is dramatically bigger and far more gaping, and the whole tribe can come flooding in and pretty soon your whole house is compromised and falling apart. That's what these assholes WILL try to do here. Because the lovely SCOTUS has just given them a little crack. You bet your ass they're gonna exploit this and try to build on it as much as they can. That's what they've already done, rather thoroughly, with Roe v Wade.

Um... wouldn't WE be trying to do the same thing?

BTW - that attitude - "meh, just a bunch of people with hair on fire. Not gonna happen. S'not gonna happen." Yeah, MY ASS. THAT attitude has gotten us to this point, where OUR Pro-Choice house is compromised and now falling apart. Our side thought it was much ado about nothing, a tempest in a teapot, meh - what can they do? Buncha nut cases, don't even waste your time, they're not gonna get very far..." HAH! Yeah? Seriously? You think it's no big deal and that it's not gonna gain strength and momentum and come and not only bite you in the ass but chew your ass and your legs off? You think there's nothing much here to worry about? Well, I think you need your head examined - before they chew THAT off, too.

This election cycle will be glorious.

[franksolich]

"Never underestimate the enemy"--hey, that's our strategy.

And given the way primitives think of us, and how those on Discussionist are treated as the stupidest people in the world, it's not any strategy the primitives have ever tried.

They think we're the dumbest people in the world.  Really.

<<<not losing any sleep over the primitives adopting this strategy.

[Dori]

I think we need to start thinking and strategizing ON OFFENSE. Hijacking the kkkarl rove strategies and RNC playbook pages, and turning them to weapons we can use in OUR favor.

 

Be my guest....use the Karl Rove tactics.......your sure to lose. 

[BlueStateSaint]

"Never underestimate the enemy"--hey, that's our strategy.

And given the way primitives think of us, and how those on Discussionist are treated as the stupidest people in the world, it's not any strategy the primitives have ever tried.

They think we're the dumbest people in the world.  Really.

<<<not losing any sleep over the primitives adopting this strategy.

This is the truth.  H5.

[miskie]

Yawn. They come up with this same strategery the summer before every election.

Try something new, primitives.

[franksolich]

This is the truth.  H5.

It's pretty boring, the way the primitives think we're stupid.

I'm not going to claim any special cerebral gifts for myself--I'm probably actually only "average"--but it never fails to astonish me, how the primitives constantly assume we're about ten or a hundred times stupider than we really are.

Who's being the stupid ones here?

[Dori]

Who's being the stupid ones here?

They only get their facts from MSNBC and extreme left websites.  They are not only stupid, they are brainwashed.

[Ptarmigan]

DU is like a zoo full of really wild monkeys. 

[I_B_Perky]

It's pretty boring, the way the primitives think we're stupid.

I'm not going to claim any special cerebral gifts for myself--I'm probably actually only "average"--but it never fails to astonish me, how the primitives constantly assume we're about ten or a hundred times stupider than we really are.

Who's being the stupid ones here?

It is from the liberal playbook, Frank. Ridicule it, it will be ignored. Ignore it, it goes away.

Unfortunately for them it doesn't quite work out the way they envision. Here we are... for all the internet to see... shining light on their utter stupidity. And laughing about them. And there is not a darn thing they can do about it. That has got to stick a bug up their posteriors.   

[BlueStateSaint]

That has got to stick a bug up their posteriors.   

Some of them prefer that . . .

[Carl]

It is amusing to watch people who think they know everything prove over and over that they know absolutely nothing.

[Big Dog]

DU is like a zoo full of really wild monkeys. 

Complete with hooting, wiggle-waggling of armpits, and flinging of poop.

[Tucker]

We need to religiously, relentlessly, even militantly reinforce OUR message

This caught my eye. I would love to have the DUmmy expand on this proposal. Sounds like those decent and civilized folk that are not armed, should do so. As for me I'm set. In fact, I could equip another 50 or so people.

[Karin]

What was the purpose of the OP?  She wants her fellow DUmpmonkies to come up with a brilliant strategy, heretofore unheard of, all from the confines of an insane asylum.  None of the replies were brilliant.

[Dori]

What was the purpose of the OP?  She wants her fellow DUmpmonkies to come up with a brilliant strategy, heretofore unheard of, all from the confines of an insane asylum.  None of the replies were brilliant.

The only strategy they are good at is voter fraud.