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kelliekat44 (4,042 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025018012I remember John Kerry and others who laid their lives on the line for this nation and who uponreturning home took the risk of speaking out against the Viet Nam war and even "whistleblowing" about some of the atrocities being committed by our own troops. I remember that he and the other vets who spoke out and revealed some top security secrets were vilified by their fellow vets and servicemen and women. I remember how Jane Fonda was treated and regarded as a spy and unpatriotic stooge of the enemy. They all stayed here and faced their uncertain futures. Yes, there were some who fled the country rather than serve in what they regarded as either an unnecessary or illegal war. They fled to Mexico, Canada and elsewhere and some had parents with enough money to keep them from having to go on the front lines. And yes, I think they were taking a legitimate stand and I still think they were cowards in the truest sense of the word. Yet, none of them as I recall, turned on their own country, gave top secrets to the enemy and others the way Snowden has. Snowden never signed up to fight for this country and for him to claim the same and higher regard from US citizens as those who actually fought and put their lives on the line and for the media to make him more a hero than all those mentioned above is deplorable in my mind. He is no Manning, and he is no hero. Falling into a job for which he had no qualifications (when many with education and experience would not have been able to get such clearances or be hired into such a cushioned position) and sitting behind a desk playing with data bases and typing on the key pad is not serving your country. And while many out there, including the media take his side in asking the government to show what harm he has done, I ask what good has he done? Revealing what most of us already knew and using the semantics of laws that most citizens don't know or even care about to somehow justify what he has done in no way satisfies my gut feelings that he has done much more harm than good. I really have more problems with the Google and the many ISPs and credit card companies, and retail businesses that gather information from consumers and pass that information all around the Internet. I know I will get flack for these opinions but that's how i feel about trying to make Snowden a hero when our family has lost three to the battle fields and two to mental institutions in the past 40 years actually fighting for what they believed to be our security and freedoms. Except to make us look bad in the eyes of the world (who incidentally does the same thing) and make it more difficult for us to negotiate in good faith and to mar the President's foreign policy actions, I can see nothing of real value from what Snowden has done because nothing has really changed except we now know what we only suspected.
winter is coming (6,197 posts) 1. I remember life before the Great Paragraph Break Shortage.Considering how whistleblowers are "protected" in the current climate, I think that Snowden made the right decision vis a vis leaving the country.
Smarmie Doofus (11,450 posts) 2. "They took a stand and they are cowards.">>>They fled to Mexico, Canada and elsewhere and some had parents with enough money to keep them from having to go on the front lines. And yes, I think they were taking a legitimate stand and I still think they were cowards in the truest sense of the word.>>>> You might want to flesh that out a little.
brewens (3,506 posts) 3. I might have read this if it weren't just one huge block of text. Please at leastuse paragraphs and hopefully a space between them. It makes online reading so much easier, especially for those of us who aren't kids anymore.
winter is coming (6,197 posts) 1. I remember life before the Great Paragraph Break Shortage.
