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Offline Skul

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DUmp getting a bit nervous
« on: March 17, 2014, 08:42:57 AM »
Fairly new OP.  Might get interesting as the day wears on.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024677234
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Where GOP Can Strike Obamacare If when It Takes Senate FIFY  :-)
   
DYLAN SCOTT – MARCH 17, 2014, 6:00 AM EDT

Facing the very real possibility of a GOP-controlled Senate in 2015, health industry insiders are working up a wish list -- the changes they'd like made to the Affordable Care Act under a fully Republican Congress.

But they're also a little unsettled by the prospect of GOP control in Congress: Nobody is sure what exactly the Republicans would do if they had the opportunity to legislate however it wanted on the health care reform law.

It's plausible that Republicans would simply continue their absolutist opposition to President Barack Obama's signature legislation, especially if they view capturing the Senate as a vindication of their anti-Obamacare messaging. In that scenario, expect more symbolic repeal votes that the House has taken over the last few years. That would force Obama to pull out his veto pen again and again to defend the law.

The GOP's absolutist position would also keep the health insurance industry nervously on edge. Disruptive legislative actions like repealing the individual mandate or cutting funding for tax subsidies would be worrisome for companies that have spent four years adjusting to and investing in Obamacare's new reality.

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/gop-senate-takeover-obamacare Of course you need talking points, don't you.

This might be what worries the primitives.
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2. The GOP doesn't have to fund the ACA with new appropriations...anyone think of that?
The ACA is not self-supporting.
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Re: DUmp getting a bit nervous
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2014, 08:59:47 AM »
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The ACA is not self-supporting.


Well, no shit.

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Re: DUmp getting a bit nervous
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2014, 10:34:08 AM »
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3. And when the mandates and subsidies are slashed the 'affordable' goes away....



Hey Demo DUmmie, the affordable went away as soon as they printed it on paper.  Even using fuzzy math it still doesn't add up.
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Re: DUmp getting a bit nervous
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2014, 10:39:34 AM »
Quote from: hillneck on March 17, 2014, 10:34:08 AM


Hey Demo DUmmie, the affordable went away as soon as they printed it on paper.  Even using fuzzy math it still doesn't add up.
But the democrats got what they wanted....another big bite of socialism....and a step closer to full fledged communism.
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Re: DUmp getting a bit nervous
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2014, 11:39:09 AM »
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The ACA is not self-supporting.

Quote from: Wineslob on March 17, 2014, 08:59:47 AM

Well, no shit.

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No problem.  Get Michelle to stop taking vacations and the White House can fund ObamaCare for a year or two on those savings.
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Re: DUmp getting a bit nervous
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2014, 12:08:08 PM »
Here is another fun related thread:

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The steady drumbeat of the DEMS losing big in the midterm has started ...


Why can't we just wait and find out rather consigning us to defeat from day 1..

This is infuriating beyond words ...as this can become a self fulfilling prophecy


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EJ DIONE :
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ej-dionne-the-politics-of-hopelessness/2014/03/16/077f6d86-abe0-11e3-98f6-8e3c562f9996_story.html

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/opinion/sunday/dowd-dems-in-distress.html?ref=maureendowd

Let it be a self-fulfilling prophecy!!!  :cheersmate:
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Re: DUmp getting a bit nervous
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2014, 12:24:24 PM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on March 17, 2014, 12:08:08 PM
Here is another fun related thread:

Let it be a self-fulfilling prophecy!!!  :cheersmate:
From the same...
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3. the real drumbeat should be 'how the f*ck can republicans win anything?

they offer nothing to the voters.
.....other than to keep a little more of what they earn, instead of supporting dead-beats.
.....other than a better chance to keep the Constitution in one piece.
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Re: DUmp getting a bit nervous
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2014, 12:54:54 PM »
"We have to vote first to find out how bad we lost", Nancy P.
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Re: DUmp getting a bit nervous
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2014, 12:58:52 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on March 17, 2014, 12:54:54 PM
"We have to vote first to find out how bad we lost", Nancy P.
:lmao:   :cheersmate:
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Re: DUmp getting a bit nervous
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2014, 01:59:25 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on March 17, 2014, 12:54:54 PM
"We have to vote first to find out how bad we lost", Nancy P.


I'm with Skul,


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Re: DUmp getting a bit nervous
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2014, 05:09:50 PM »
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President Barack Obama's signature legislation

Should be

President Barack Obamaand the democrat party's CONTROVERSIAL legislation.

if the media were even 10% unbiased.
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Re: DUmp getting a bit nervous
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2014, 09:31:50 PM »
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Response to polichick (Reply #28)Mon Mar 17, 2014, 04:52 PM
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29. Dem leaders hate America.

Make sure you tell that to everyone you meet, because that will definitely get them to the polls.

Everybody already knows that but I'll make sure to pass it along.
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