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DUmmies Discuss Why Communism Can't Work
« on: March 10, 2014, 03:00:38 PM »
Just like the DUmmies....."Can't Work"

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Here is why Communism Can't Work

Communism requires honesty and respect.

Being that everything is supposed to be shared equally in a commune, but there are so many people who will steal whatever is not nailed down, it is not possible to have communism on a large scale.

Because, what happens after so much hoarding, is that police must be hired. Capital must then be raised to hire police, and then judges, and then lawyers, etc, etc. etc.

At that point the commune has left the ideals of the commune and becomes socialist in nature. Socialism is community using capital to grease the wheels of society.

People will just not submit to self-governing, so communism can't work within a large scale society. It can only in small communes that are not subject to outside influences or liars within.

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1. It worked in some Amish communities.
 
Democratic Socialism is the best of all worlds. 

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2. Ever grow up in a neighborhood of interlocking, extended families?
 
Very, very different from the atomized families of today. Vonnegut kept going on about that. I identified because Johnstown, PA (aka The Land That Time Forgot) was such a place in the 50s and 60s.

Going from here to there will require baby steps. By serendipity, in Pittsburgh, we discovered that shared-but-quality recreational resources, especially rails-to-trails, are such baby steps. People interacting with others while they're having fun and feeling better about themselves. Powerful.

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3. Um, look around. The wealthy 1% has stolen most everything that isn't nailed down.
 
They just let you use it in return for your miserable labors.

If you don't want to live by their rules, fine, you can go starve.

Or they put you in prison and make the rest of us miserable laborers pay for your keep.

:wohoo: capitalism!

Bah, **** that.


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5. communism fails on large scales
 
because of general human nature. No matter how much we try, there will always be those of us who take advantage of others and so on. It also requires people to put the whole of society above the nuclear family- which has been shown to be almost impossible to actually do. It would require extreme social control (which was seen in places like the USSR) just to attempt to change this mindset.


 

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Why Communism Can't Work
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2014, 03:44:28 PM »
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5. communism fails on large scales
 
It also requires people to put the whole of society above the nuclear family- which has been shown to be almost impossible to actually do. It would require extreme social control (which was seen in places like the USSR (It was called MASS MURDER, asshole)) just to attempt to change this mindset.


     What complete scumbag asshole ****wit losers. Lamenting that we're not all poor because it's too hard to destroy families.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Why Communism Can't Work
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2014, 03:44:52 PM »
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3. Um, look around. The wealthy 1% has stolen most everything that isn't nailed down.
 
They just let you use it in return for your miserable labors.

If you don't want to live by their rules, fine, you can go starve.

Or they put you in prison and make the rest of us miserable laborers pay for your keep.

:wohoo: capitalism!

Bah, **** that.

Just once I'd like to hear one of these idiots to explain this! Oh, and DUmmies, you can start with your own. Richest people in the world are leftists but because they spew pretty words about all your little pet causes, they get a pass. The Koch brothers don't have as much as some of your champions of people's rights.

The boy king has become filthy rich during his presidency, while touting workers' rights & food stamps. Women in his administration make less than men do. That pretty much makes him a hypocrite.

Nancy Pelosi's husband is a rich capitalist.

All those Hollywood actors, actresses and singers constantly promote income equality, global warming climate change and whatever is the cool cause of the moment. They also have lavish parties for themselves and the president. None of you would ever be invited. How about you start with them and when they practice what they preach you can make a case for the rest of us.

If they believe what they say, every single one of them should give up their big, lavish homes and private jets. President excepted, though it would be helpful to not fuel up the plane to pick up his dogs. No reason they can't take them along with them. Might want to cut down Michelle's lavish vacations and enormous staff, who make a larger carbon footprint than any other first lady in history.

How about they "live simply so others can simply live"? What possible reason could they have to need a house so big when they don't even use half the rooms? It should be enough for them to live in an upper middle class home. The rest of their money could be used to practice what they preach. If they turned their mansions into homeless shelters and affordable apartments for people on welfare and the working poor, it would get a lot of people off the streets and out of Valerie Jarrette's tenements. And paying money they won't miss to Algore's tree planting scam doesn't get them off the hook for their large carbon footprints, while we're forced to use poisonous light bulbs, high heating and electric bills and whatever taxes your side deems necessary to protect the planet. And coming to a country near you: severe limitations on wood stoves. Other countries can use it for cooking and heat and people all over the world have been using fire and stoves for decades. For some reason, it hasn't been a problem for the earth. But now it is. Thanks for that.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Why Communism Can't Work
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2014, 03:50:12 PM »
Because the only practitioners of communism are worthless, do-nothing sacks of shit with violent delusions of grandeur.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Why Communism Can't Work
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2014, 03:51:49 PM »
Because the only practitioners of communism are worthless, do-nothing sacks of shit with violent delusions of grandeur.


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Re: DUmmies Discuss Why Communism Can't Work
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2014, 03:53:06 PM »
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there will always be those of us who take advantage of others
Yessss, we know.  DUmp primitives are a prime example of that.  :banghead:
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Why Communism Can't Work
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2014, 04:04:39 PM »
Communism will work if you kill enough people...........all but one.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Why Communism Can't Work
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2014, 04:09:32 PM »
Yessss, we know.  DUmp primitives are a prime example of that.  :banghead:


Ya, that "running out of other peoples money" thing always seems to bite them in the ass.


Plus they seem to ignore the "work" that ALWAYS comes with Communism.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Why Communism Can't Work
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2014, 04:10:37 PM »
Communism will work if you kill enough people...........all but one.

And that one will starve because he's too stupid and lazy to provide for himself.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Why Communism Can't Work
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2014, 04:13:18 PM »
Dear DUchebags,

Please read "Basic Economics" by Dr. Thomas Sowell. You will not sound like such ignorant fools.

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