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The Socialist Roots of Nazism
« on: February 25, 2014, 08:05:20 PM »
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Leftists become incandescent when reminded of the socialist roots of Nazism

On 16 June 1941, as Hitler readied his forces for Operation Barbarossa, Josef Goebbels looked forward to the new order that the Nazis would impose on a conquered Russia. There would be no come-back, he wrote, for capitalists nor priests nor Tsars. Rather, in the place of debased, Jewish Bolshevism, the Wehrmacht would deliver “der echte Sozialismus”: real socialism.

Goebbels never doubted that he was a socialist. He understood Nazism to be a better and more plausible form of socialism than that propagated by Lenin. Instead of spreading itself across different nations, it would operate within the unit of the Volk.

So total is the cultural victory of the modern Left that the merely to recount this fact is jarring. But few at the time would have found it especially contentious. As George Watson put it in The Lost Literature of Socialism:

    It is now clear beyond all reasonable doubt that Hitler and his associates believed they were socialists, and that others, including democratic socialists, thought so too.

The clue is in the name. Subsequent generations of Leftists have tried to explain away the awkward nomenclature of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party as either a cynical PR stunt or an embarrassing coincidence. In fact, the name meant what it said.

More at: The Telegraph

« Last Edit: February 25, 2014, 08:20:31 PM by Big Dog »
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Re: The Socialist Roots of Nazism
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2014, 08:32:44 PM »
Very true.

Hitler made it quite clear in Mein Kamph that he disliked the International Socialist because they had no cohesion. In his opinion, it was pride in one's blood which would be the glue that would hold together a truly socialist society. It's right there in black and white, and denying it only undermines the denier.

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Re: The Socialist Roots of Nazism
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2014, 09:49:14 PM »
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Leftists become incandescent when reminded of the socialist roots of Nazism

On 16 June 1941, as Hitler readied his forces for Operation Barbarossa, Josef Goebbels looked forward to the new order that the Nazis would impose on a conquered Russia. There would be no come-back, he wrote, for capitalists nor priests nor Tsars. Rather, in the place of debased, Jewish Bolshevism, the Wehrmacht would deliver “der echte Sozialismus”: real socialism.

Goebbels never doubted that he was a socialist. He understood Nazism to be a better and more plausible form of socialism than that propagated by Lenin. Instead of spreading itself across different nations, it would operate within the unit of the Volk.

So total is the cultural victory of the modern Left that the merely to recount this fact is jarring. But few at the time would have found it especially contentious. As George Watson put it in The Lost Literature of Socialism:

    It is now clear beyond all reasonable doubt that Hitler and his associates believed they were socialists, and that others, including democratic socialists, thought so too.

The clue is in the name. Subsequent generations of Leftists have tried to explain away the awkward nomenclature of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party as either a cynical PR stunt or an embarrassing coincidence. In fact, the name meant what it said.

More at: The Telegraph



very nice to see intelligent comments regarding the basis of the NAZI party. More Hitler quote:

"I am a Socialist, and a very different kind of Socialist from your rich friend, Count Reventlow. . . . What you understand by Socialism is nothing more than Marxism."

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Re: The Socialist Roots of Nazism
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2014, 02:14:03 AM »
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embarrassing coincidence

Heh....right, because we're not edjukayshunny enough to understand.  

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What you understand by Socialism is nothing more than Marxism

B-but...w-wait,  ummmm..
« Last Edit: February 27, 2014, 02:17:53 AM by 98ZJUSMC »
              

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