Ban Tobacco (yet another example of DUmmie true colors)

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024530551

OmahaBlueDog (9,856 posts)

Hasn't the time come to outlaw the sale of tobacco products?


High health risk.

The smoke harms others -- especially kids in homes of smokers.

Vaping represents a comparatively safer alterative, so no one is being denied their nicotine.

Lower health insurance costs.

Isn't it time the rest of America follows the lead of CVS?

If American businesses willingly, without being told to by the government, follow the CVS lead I have no problem with that. CVS management is going to have to answer to their shareholders for their decision.

mokawanis (2,967 posts)
8. Car exhaust impacts people who don't drive

Let's ban cars, and alcohol, and fatty foods, too. I bet we could come up with a long list if we tried.

The list already exists and guns are at the tippy top of that list...

The Straight Story (46,233 posts)
5. Tobacco is a plant, want to arrest people for growing that too?

Ban SI covers with women, cigarettes, guns, large sodas, and then wonder why people think us progressives want to control them as much as we are saying they want to control us.

I most certainly do not want to control you. I just want to be left alone and not have to pay for you to sit on your butt.

Upton (9,644 posts)
11. No..and I don't smoke tobacco..

Ban this, ban that...it's all I see anymore. Whatever happened to the idea of letting people make their own choices?

Snork - impossible for your average democrat or DUmmie...

Upton (9,644 posts)
23. Control freaks...every society is full of them.

They're just not happy unless they can dictate to others how to live their lives. Seems to be part of the human condition.

They are easy to find, just look in the nearest mirror...

edhopper (8,329 posts)
18. Yes

any other consumer product that causes cancer and serious health problems(and cigarettes kill more people than anything else) is banned from sale. And that is what should be done. The Tobacco lobby has prevented this so far.
Not illegal to use, just stop the sale. I doubt that we will see wide spread illegal trafficking in cigarettes. If the price is high enough for people to take a chance at illegal sales, the vast majority of smokers won't pay the price. If the price is low enough for smokers, it won't be worth the risk. The prohibition thing is a red herring. Last I saw there isn't a big black market for red dye two or trans fats.
We could have a largely smoke free country and save millions of lives.

See previous control freak discussion

OilemFirchen (1,268 posts)
22. I say we ban pot first.

Have you ever walked by a pot smoker? Disgusting, filthy degenerates polluting the air around me. And it gets all in my clothes and my hair.

You are in trouble now, you should just go kill yourself (in an environmentally friendly way of course) before somebody does it for you.

Lost_Count (342 posts)
50. Demolition Man here we come...

Sigh... No one could really be this controlling and trifling.

This is a bad stereotype of the nanny state liberal.

I feel like I'm being trolled.

No, this is an entirely accurate picture.

WillowTree (2,295 posts)
55. I'm a former smoker and I say emphatically no!

By the way, I'm enthusiastically opposed to you getting to make any other choices for me, too.

Run your own life, why doncha, and let the rest of us run ours.

Right...

[thundley4]

Not illegal to use, just stop the sale. I doubt that we will see wide spread illegal trafficking in cigarettes. If the price is high enough for people to take a chance at illegal sales, the vast majority of smokers won't pay the price. If the price is low enough for smokers, it won't be worth the risk.

B.S.  Look in New York City and Chicago which have high taxes on cigarettes.  The only people paying those high prices are the poor people without connections to buy bootleg cigarettes.

Cigarettes are about a $1 a pack cheaper in Missouri than in Illinois and plenty of people cross the state line to buy them.

[Dori]

Wow.  Who would have thought so many DUmmies would take the conservatives' view point. 

[Carl]

Wow.  Who would have thought so many DUmmies would take the conservatives' view point. 

They always do when something has a negative impact on something they like.
Or in the case of taxes they become very conservative regarding how much they think they should pay.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Lost_Count (342 posts)
50. Demolition Man here we come...

Sigh... No one could really be this controlling and trifling.

This is a bad stereotype of the nanny state liberal.

From this week:

Buying soft drinks in Illinois would cost more under tax hike proposal

Illinois shoppers could find themselves paying extra for soft drinks under a proposed statewide soda tax. The new plan would add an extra penny on every ounce of sugary drinks sold in sealed containers, along with the syrups and powders used to flavor them.

The tax is part of a broader plan to promote healthy living in Illinois, according to state Sen. Mattie Hunter, D-Chicago, who sponsored the legislation. Revenue from the tax would go toward a range of health services and education initiatives.

“Numerous studies have linked excessive consumption of sugary soft drinks to obesity,” Hunter said in an email. “We as a state need to do a better job of educating the public and children in particular about this issue and the health risks.”

The proposal has drawn criticism from the Illinois Coalition Against Beverage Taxes — an alliance of manufacturers, retailers and union workers who say the tax would harm the economy and kill jobs in Illinois.

“You reduce consumption, and you reduce employment,” said Brian Rainville, a spokesman for Teamsters Joint Council 25 in Chicago and northwest Indiana. “If there’s less being made and distributed, there’s fewer people doing those jobs.

“Politicians are always talking about creating middle-class jobs, and these are those jobs. These are the good, middle-class jobs that people want to create.”

[wasp69]

edhopper (8,329 posts)
18. Yes

any other consumer product that causes cancer and serious health problems(and cigarettes kill more people than anything else) is banned from sale. And that is what should be done. The Tobacco lobby has prevented this so far.
Not illegal to use, just stop the sale. I doubt that we will see wide spread illegal trafficking in cigarettes. If the price is high enough for people to take a chance at illegal sales, the vast majority of smokers won't pay the price. If the price is low enough for smokers, it won't be worth the risk.

How did that work out for alcohol?  How has it worked out for, say, marijuana?

DUmbass...   

[Karin]

I doubt that we will see wide spread illegal trafficking in cigarettes.

   We don't call 'em DUmmies for nothing.

The only people paying those high prices are the poor people without connections to buy bootleg cigarettes.

Or a car to get to an Indian reservation. 

[YupItsMe]

Anybody on food stamps or public assistance I would deduct the cost of their smokes from what thet receive.  Their choice fine, but I shouldn't have to pay for them

[Ralph Wiggum]

Anybody on food stamps or public assistance I would deduct the cost of their smokes from what thet receive.  Their choice fine, but I shouldn't have to pay for them

[ChuckJ]

edhopper (8,329 posts)
18. Yes

any other consumer product that causes cancer and serious health problems(and cigarettes kill more people than anything else) is banned from sale. And that is what should be done.

How many serious health problems result from pole smoking and rump wrangling?

[Ralph Wiggum]

edhopper (8,329 posts)
18. Yes

any other consumer product that causes cancer and serious health problems(and cigarettes kill more people than anything else) is banned from sale. And that is what should be done.

May as well ban cars too.  Of course the DUmbasses probably want to do that already.

[landofconfusion80]

How many serious health problems result from pole smoking and rump wrangling?

does a diminished gag reflex count as a health problem? surely obamacare would cover that..

[I_B_Perky]

Upton (9,644 posts)
23. Control freaks...every society is full of them.

They're just not happy unless they can dictate to others how to live their lives. Seems to be part of the human condition.

Yes dummie there are. And 99.999999 percent of them are liberals. Case in point... the Dump.