Kablooie just doesn`t understand why.

[Carl]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024418924

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 03:57 AM

Star Member Kablooie (9,783 posts)

So are we going to have to live under Republican obstructionist rule the rest of our lives?
I keep hearing that there's no chance for Democrats to take the house again. It will remain Republican for eternity, and the Senate is likely to turn Republican in the fall.

It seems no matter how idiotic, incompetent and inconceivable the Republicans become, no matter how much of the country loathes them, they remain in power and the American people keep voting them more power.

Why on earth can't a small modicum of reason take hold and punish them for destructive behavior? That's how it's supposed to work. Be productive and be rewarded. Be destructive and be punished. But now it is be destructive and be rewarded. It seems the more destructive they are the more entrenched in government they become.

All the gloating about how shutting down the government will damage them and all their attacks on minorities and women will bring them down is just whistling down the well. They are the indestructible cockroaches of our time.

Of course they may not win the Senate but it sounds like it will take a Herculean effort to defeat them when the Herculean effort should be on their shoulders.

It really screws with your mind to think that all the shit they do doesn't seriously damage them at all.
Politics sure is a stupid, unreasonable, crappy game.

I prefer playing Twister. It's less convoluted.

Accept your fate!

Response to Kablooie (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 04:31 AM

joshcryer (43,756 posts)
4. They gerrymandered pretty hard.

It's why I fought so hard in 2010 because if the Republicans got the majority they would get to rewrite the political landscape. The US is far more liberal than the electoral map shows. It won't be fixed until 2020, assuming we can hope to get a hold of the census then.

Response to Kablooie (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 04:47 AM

blkmusclmachine (7,264 posts)
6. Fox News. Nuff said.

Response to Kablooie (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 08:28 AM

mstinamotorcity2 (969 posts)
28. Because of the gerymandering it will be hard but not impossible.

Listen people think winning the House is impossible. This is not true. Why do you think Repugs are freaking out??? They are losing. Slowly but surly repugs are waking up out of the republican rhetoric induced coma. http://i.politicomments.com/jo They have a big tent but there is nobody in it but old white men and bigots.

Response to Kablooie (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 08:36 AM

Star Member SoCalDem (101,186 posts)
32. Of course we are.

"Republicanism" is the default position, and has been for decades. ANY democratic office-winners are treated as if they are little more than undeserving place-holders until the position can be retaken by its rightful "owner".

LBJ was the last democratic president who governed as a liberal-democrat, but the war ate up his presidency and the cataclysmic rioting at the end of the 60's pretty much assured that there would never again be a liberal democracy ever again.

Republicans have NEVER been anything even approaching a majority, but they are clever and always seem to be the ones DOING the redistricting after census years, so of course they set things up to benefit their minority, and decade after decade, democrats have stood patiently in the wings, waiting for our chance. Even when we DO get into office, the republicans are never afraid to blow the place up to get their way, so of course, little gets accomplished.

 


There are a couple that have a minimal grasp of civics and explain how things work but of course are ignored.

Response to joshcryer (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 08:06 AM

Star Member Swede Atlanta (2,932 posts)
21. But remember that gerrymandering happens at the state level.

The census only determines the number of Congressmen/women from each state (minimum of 1) based on population.

The real work comes in the state houses. I think the Republicans saw that as their strategy and may have been one of the reasons Karl Rove was so confident that there would be Republican rule forever.

States whose number of Congressmen/women changes as a result of the census re-draw Congressional and I believe state districts. They can gerrymander the map so that they can count on majorities. If you draw the map one way you would get 1 primarily Democratic and 1 Republican district but they can carve up the map in such a convoluted way as to get 2 Republican majority districts by splitting the Democrats as minorities in the two districts.

If they can do the same for state house representatives then they will always control how the map is re-drawn every 10 years and this perpetuates itself.

The only way out of this would be through the state Senate chambers and of course with Governors. The Republicans have been better at, and maybe more focused on, state houses.

Sure DUmbasses,you have urban parasite populations clawing for handouts but the rest of the country is to the right and vote for state officials reflecting that.
I would hate having to stare reality in the eyes and constantly have to look away.

[franksolich]

.....no matter how much of the country loathes them, they remain in power and the American people keep voting them more power.

What's the primitive's problem?

I know plenty of people who love the Republican party and loathe the Democrat party.

And then another question: how are "we" in power?  The last I heard, the Democrats have the White House, the Senate, and the Supreme Court.  That's 5/6ths of the federal government, a pretty overwhelming dominance.

[obumazombie]

Libs live on accusations, not facts.

[98ZJUSMC]

Star Member SoCalDem (101,186 posts)
32. Of course we are.

"Republicanism" is the default position, and has been for decades. ANY democratic office-winners are treated as if they are little more than undeserving place-holders until the position can be retaken by its rightful "owner".

LBJ was the last democratic president who governed as a liberal-democrat, but the war ate up his presidency and the cataclysmic rioting at the end of the 60's pretty much assured that there would never again be a liberal democracy ever again.You can't be serious.  Wait, what am I saying......

Republicans have NEVER been anything even approaching a majority, but they are clever and always seem to be the ones DOING the redistricting after census years, so of course they set things up to benefit their minority, and decade after decade, democrats have stood patiently in the wings, waiting for our chance. Even when we DO get into office, the republicans are never afraid to blow the place up to get their way, so of course, little gets accomplished.

The stupidity has accelerated, I see.  Everything happens in a reality-challenged, "historical slate wiped clean", anti-world vacuum; populated only by those facts they wish to acknowledge or agree with and people they can, retroactively, change into whomever they wish. 

Quite shattering for those that have not experienced these slugs, but we know better.  Still, they do try to take it to the next subterranean level.   

[98ZJUSMC]

If they can do the same for state house representatives then they will always control how the map is re-drawn every 10 years and this perpetuates itself.

The only way out of this would be through the state Senate chambers and of course with Governors. The Republicans have been better at, and maybe more focused on, state houses.

Yeah, let's talk about gerrymandered districts, you retard.

but they can carve up the map in such a convoluted way as

You want convoluted?  See Illinois Congressional Districts in Chicago.  You know, that hotbed of Republican majority obstructionism.  Dumbshit......

[Dori]

What's the primitive's problem?

I know plenty of people who love the Republican party and loathe the Democrat party.

And then another question: how are "we" in power?  The last I heard, the Democrats have the White House, the Senate, and the Supreme Court.  That's 5/6ths of the federal government, a pretty overwhelming dominance.

Unless a politician is a committed socialist or communist, they think even their own party leaders are conservative or centrists, including Obama.

They even say that the MSM is against them, ran by the evil capitalists.  Everything is a conspiracy.   Paranoia runs deep in the mind of a Dummy.

[JohnnyReb]

Unless a politician is a committed socialist or communist, they think even their own party leaders are conservative or centrists, including Obama.

They even say that the MSM is against them, ran by the evil capitalists.  Everything is a conspiracy.   Paranoia runs deep in the mind of a Dummy.

How is that possible in such shallow minds?

[Linda]

Yeah, let's talk about gerrymandered districts, you retard.

You want convoluted?  See Illinois Congressional Districts in Chicago.  You know, that hotbed of Republican majority obstructionism.  Dumbshit......

You can also add my district in Fla. it looks like a snake winding down the state..all for that black racist bitch Corrine Brown and take my word for it, she is not a (R).

[DLR Pyro]

blkmusclmachine (7,264 posts)
6. Fox News. Nuff said.

[Karin]

Response to Kablooie (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 09:28 AM

Hotler (3,984 posts)

45. So how much longer are we going to sit back and take it.....
 
before we take to the streets by the thousands and march on Washington the likes this country has never seen before?????
Spring is coming and it's time to march and shut this country down.

But Spring is kinda chilly, and that's when Finals are. 

[JohnnyReb]

But Spring is kinda chilly, and that's when Finals are. 

To hell with Florida and spring break....march on Washington.[DUmmie]

[Big Dog]

Why on earth can't a small modicum of reason take hold and punish them for destructive behavior?

Word salad.

Does the DUmmy mean that "reason" is somehow supposed to punish the Republicans for some undefined "destruction"?

How would that work?

[DumbAss Tanker]

They sure hate gerrymandering, except in all the districts where it gets some moonbat wack-job or crypto-Communist minority person elected.

[FlaGator]

Republican gerrymandered districts? The following is Florida District 5... Corrine Brown's district. At some points it in no wider than an interstate highway or state road as it meanders to all the areas that have a heavy black population.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

They sure hate gerrymandering, except in all the districts where it gets some moonbat wack-job or crypto-Communist minority person elected.

They're just spouting off to avoid confronting the reality as to why they are so unpopular.

And I'm okay with that.

[Gina]

Be productive and be rewarded. Be destructive and be punished.

No dude.  Your obama's motto is "be destructive and be rewarded. Be productive and be punished"

[delilahmused]

Response to Kablooie (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 09:28 AM

Hotler (3,984 posts)

45. So how much longer are we going to sit back and take it.....
 
before we take to the streets by the thousands and march on Washington the likes this country has never seen before?????
Spring is coming and it's time to march and shut this country down.

Oh goody! Maybe they'll resurrect "not one damn dime day" again too! They're always, but always waiting for the next grand protest. The last one they had, women were raped and they left the areas in such filth, city workers had to wear masks to clean up. For people who are supposed to be green, they seem to have very little respect for the environment.

Cindie

[Linda]

Republican gerrymandered districts? The following is Florida District 5... Corrine Brown's district. At some points it in no wider than an interstate highway or state road as it meanders to all the areas that have a heavy black population.

That's my district...So many blacks in it you can't get enough votes to vote Corinne Brown out. And believe me we try.

[Dori]

That's my district...So many blacks in it you can't get enough votes to vote Corinne Brown out. And believe me we try.

Those boundaries are terrible. When Schwarzenegger was governor, one of his biggest complaints were California's district boundary lines.  He would say they looked like they were drawn with an etch-a-sketch.

There have been ballot measures to change the way it's done, but I don't think that helped much.

[GOBUCKS]

So how much longer are we going to sit back and take it.....
 
before we take to the streets by the thousands and march on Washington the likes this country has never seen before?????
Spring is coming and it's time to march and shut this country down.

For the vast majority the opportunities for success in America are unbounded.

If the subculture of democrat losers were industrious enough to actually cause trouble, they'd already be prospering.

The best they can do is round up a ragtag handful of loser occupoopers, with no idea what to protest.

Thank goodness for "income inequality"! It's what makes America great.

[JohnnyReb]

That's my district...So many blacks in it you can't get enough votes to vote Corinne Brown out. And believe me we try.

That's nice of them to make a map showing what areas to stay out of.

[jukin]

When even the brain addled losers at the DUmp know their future is doooooomed, it's bright for the decent and civilized citizens of America.