Healing white light failed- I died but "I'll be back."

[Tucker]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024282219

Sun Jan 5, 2014, 03:57 PM

G_j (32,904 posts)

Searching For The Science Behind Reincarnation

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http://www.npr.org/2014/01/05/259886077/searching-for-science-behind-reincarnation

on edit: I thought this interesting, if nothing else. I knew this would be scorned, but so far none of the negative comments have mentioned anything from the interview or article, leading me to believe they didn't bother reading or listening.

Searching For The Science Behind Reincarnation
January 05, 2014 7:44 AM
Listen to the Story
Weekend Edition Sunday 7 min 39 sec


Say a child has memories of being a Hollywood extra in the 1930s. Is it just an active imagination, or actual evidence of reincarnation? Jim Tucker, a psychologist at the University of Virginia studies hundreds of cases like this and joins NPR's Rachel Martin to share his research on the science behind reincarnation.

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http://uvamagazine.org/articles/the_science_of_reincarnation

The Science of Reincarnation
U.Va. psychiatrist Jim Tucker investigates children’s claims of past lives

by SEAN LYONS

When Ryan Hammons was 4 years old, he began directing imaginary movies. Shouts of "Action!" often echoed from his room.

But the play became a concern for Ryan's parents when he began waking up in the middle of the night screaming and clutching his chest, saying he dreamed his heart exploded when he was in Hollywood. His mother, Cyndi, asked his doctor about the episodes. Night terrors, the doctor said. He'll outgrow them.Then one night, as Cyndi tucked Ryan into bed, Ryan suddenly took hold of Cyndi's hand.

"Mama," he said. "I think I used to be someone else."

He said he remembered a big white house and a swimming pool. It was in Hollywood, many miles from his Oklahoma home. He said he had three sons, but that he couldn't remember their names. He began to cry, asking Cyndi over and over why he couldn't remember their names.

"I really didn't know what to do," Cyndi said. "I was more in shock than anything. He was so insistent about it. After that night, he kept talking about it, kept getting upset about not being able to remember those names. I started researching the Internet about reincarnation. I even got some books from the library on Hollywood, thinking their pictures might help him. I didn't tell anyone for months."

One day, as Ryan and Cyndi paged through one of the Hollywood books, Ryan stopped at a black-and-white still taken from a 1930s movie, Night After Night. Two men in the center of the picture were confronting one another. Four other men surrounded them. Cyndi didn't recognize any of the faces, but Ryan pointed to one of the men in the middle.

"Hey Mama," he said. "That's George. We did a picture together." His finger then shot over to a man on the right, wearing an overcoat and a scowl. "That guy's me. I found me!"

Ryan's claims, while rare, are not unique among the more than 2,500 case files sitting inside the offices of Jim B. Tucker (Res '89), an associate psychiatry professor at the U.Va. Medical Center's Division of Perceptual Studies.

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2014, 04:35 PM

Star Member Cal33 (3,909 posts)
5. I have vague memories of a case that made headlines 60 or more years ago, where a

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young woman called "Bridey Murphy" (I think) remembered having had a previous life
in Ireland or England a century or two previously. The information she gave (place and
time of birth) checked with church records. I am no longer sure if this turned out to be
phoney or not.

I'm sure there are fakers who do this for getting attention or money. But I'm leaving my
mind open. Only the person making such a claim would know for sure if the story is true
or not. .

Response to G_j (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2014, 04:40 PM

Vashta Nerada (1,981 posts)
7. NPR is peddling pseudoscience?

Response to Vashta Nerada (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 5, 2014, 05:02 PM

nadinbrzezinski (128,721 posts)
16. How so? It is done at an actual university

by an actual psychiatrist.

We also have no idea what happens after death, do we?

And now for an internet first:

Response to Vashta Nerada (Reply #19)

Sun Jan 5, 2014, 05:11 PM

nadinbrzezinski (128,721 posts)
20. So he is not a psychiatrist

Ok. I did not know psychiatry was not based on modern medical science. My mistake.

Also you will have to go argue with the few physicists who are starting to talk of the brain as a quantum computer. Perhaps you will want to argue as well that information is indeed lost, violating a fundamental principle of modern physics.

You might want to believe it is not science. In fact, I suspect anything that violates what you think is science is not in your mind. I prefer to keep an open mind, because you know what? Science is stranger than fiction.

Here, on that idea about a quantum consciousness

http://www.quantumconsciousness.org/penrose-hameroff/quantumcomputation.html

What I think NPR is doing is reporting on a real frontier, even controversial, area of research. But what would I know.

How is it that they can't acknowledge creationism and yet accept reincarnation? Where's the evolution?

You need to read the thread yourself. 

[Dori]

They're in the zone    

The twilight zone  

[GOBUCKS]

How is it that they can't acknowledge creationism and yet accept reincarnation?

They see it first hand.

LinkSpeed was one of a string of reincarnations for TomInTib.

Pam Dawson has had a couple of reincarnations.

The CalPig is a reincarnation of Coach Lou Holtz.

Happens all the time.

[tanstaafl]

They're in the zone    

The twilight zone  

Or maybe the goofy zone

[Mr Mannn]

In the aftermath of Andyscam, dear departed Andy started his new life as a simple duck in the deep south...but then Duck Dynasty started and Andy has been running for his life ever since.

[jukin]

Bridey

<<<<First dog that set the standard for all the others.

[Big Dog]

G_j (32,904 posts)

Searching For The Science Behind Reincarnation

http://www.npr.org/2014/0...ence-behind-reincarnation

on edit: I thought this interesting, if nothing else. I knew this would be scorned, but so far none of the negative comments have mentioned anything from the interview or article, leading me to believe they didn't bother reading or listening.

It's NPR. Nobody actually listens to it.

Much like MSNBC.

[freedumb2003b]

He said he remembered a big white house and a swimming pool. It was in Hollywood, many miles from his Oklahoma home. He said he had three sons, but that he couldn't remember their names.

He was Fred MacMurray?

[JohnnyReb]

DUmmie mothers doing what DUmmie mothers do best....raising government, tit sucking, crazy kids.

[Skul]

Interesting. GNads loved to throw "string theory" out there.
Why didn't she delve in the "brane theory"?
She's a perfect example of false authority syndrome.
If challenged, she couldn't support and discuss the individuals or theories, she quotes.

[FlaGator]

As George Carlin pointed out, if reincarnation is true and souls are recycled where did the souls of 7 billion people come from? Someone is printing up counterfeit souls and they lower the value of the real souls.

[landofconfusion80]

As George Carlin pointed out, if reincarnation is true and souls are recycled where did the souls of 7 billion people come from? Someone is printing up counterfeit souls and they lower the value of the real souls.

clearly they come over from worlds that are dying in other galaxies.... sheesh, I thought that was settled science... 

[Tucker]

As George Carlin pointed out, if reincarnation is true and souls are recycled where did the souls of 7 billion people come from? Someone is printing up counterfeit souls and they lower the value of the real souls.

Maybe some were decent and civilized people that didn't quite get everything right and are given another chance. The portion that are current democrats were snakes and vermin in a previous life that were downgraded.

[Big Dog]

As George Carlin pointed out, if reincarnation is true and souls are recycled where did the souls of 7 billion people come from? Someone is printing up counterfeit souls and they lower the value of the real souls.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

[FlaGator]

Assumes facts not in evidence.

I don't understand the comment.

[Big Dog]

I don't understand the comment.

I am in an inscrutable mood tonight.   

I have seen no evidence that all 7 billion people have souls.

The kindest thing I could ever say about the DUmpmonkeys is that they are soulless (the alternative is that they are blackhearted scum). Out in the real world, there are plenty of people whom I would characterize the same way - soulless.

[FlaGator]

I am in an inscrutable mood tonight.   

I have seen no evidence that all 7 billion people have souls.

The kindest thing I could ever say about the DUmpmonkeys is that they are soulless (the alternative is that they are blackhearted scum). Out in the real world, there are plenty of people whom I would characterize the same way - soulless.

I agree that some (even many) seem soulless but my faith assures me they all have souls, even if some are rotten to the core.

[BlueStateSaint]

My cat had a previous life, I think--she was looking at a whitetail doe about 15-20 yards out the sliding glass door about a month ago, and she was 'locked on the target.'  Her tail was twitching and she was thinking, "Dinner!"  I reminded her that she's not a 600-pound killing machine, this lifetime.

[obumazombie]

In the aftermath of Andyscam, dear departed Andy started his new life as a simple duck in the deep south...but then Duck Dynasty started and Andy has been running for his life ever since.

I was thinking DU needs another good scam like andyscam.