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future Top DUmmies contests
« on: January 01, 2014, 03:06:41 PM »
One’s heaving a great sigh of relief, now that the top DUmmies for 2013 are over.

This year, there were three changes in the contest, and I think they were for the better, but anyone’s free to disagree if they wish.

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The first was not an “official” change--although it’d been considered--in which nominations and voting were restricted to only members of conservativecave.  That suggested rule wasn’t actually put into effect, but it was generally observed.

The DUmpster is the largest repository of primitivia on the internet; while other places may publicize the antics of the primitives, I haven’t yet found one that covers them so thoroughly.  And hence it follows that readers of the DUmpster are probably more knowledgeable of the characters and depravities of the individual primitives; the experts.

In the past, when anybody and his uncle could nominate and vote, the Top DUmmies were riddled with nominations and even winners from way out in left field; oddballs that really didn’t belong in the running.

This was because there were some who nominated and voted, who were familiar with only three or two or even just one primitive, rather than slews of them.

It’s a subjective opinion of course, but this year, I don’t think there were, really, any unwarranted nominations.  And while some of us disagree with some of the final choices, one can’t disagree that all of the nominees and winners were credible candidates.

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The second was the use of weighted voting, in which each voter voted for ten primitives, but ranked the highest five.  All ten weren’t ranked, because really, after about five primitives, one gets hazy about one’s sixth choice or ninth choice.  But one’s top five are pretty easy to rank.

One might disagree with their ultimate standings, but I suspect most would agree that the top five DUmmies were, really, the top five DUmmies, even if one disagrees with their eventual order.

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The third was the use of secret ballots only; one was free to publicly state one’s choices, but the votes themselves were secret.

This change was made simply to irk lurking primitives, who in past years could easily determine whether or not they’d won, simply by reading the voting thread.  And if it didn’t look as if they were going to win, they stomped off in a huff, never to come back.

Primitives are narcissists; they don’t give a damn about any of their fellow primitives, they care only about their individual selves.  They need to grow up; they need to come to the DUmpster to check how their pals are doing too.  This lack of interest in other people, especially what are ostensibly their friends, their pals, is one of the most-disturbing characteristics of primitivity.

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I think all three changes should be kept, although one’s free to disagree; I’m not the final arbiter of the rules.

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Because of the pressures of time, and the popularity of the Top DUmmies contest, I think that a third person needs involved in the endeavor.  As it is, Mr. Wiggum counts the votes--a more troublesome task than what one might assume; a damnedable bitch of a job, as I learned in 2012--and I write the awards.

This year, the contest was significantly affected by the mood and temperament of the award-writer, which I’m sure showed near the end.  After the #06 Top DUmmie (the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive) and the #05 Top DUmmie (:jugs: :yahoo:), I don’t think the final four really got their worth.

But I was worn out, dragged out.

This was due to “external factors,” namely the bitterly-cold--and hence highly unusual--winter that descended upon this place beginning in early December; it has been a trial, fraying the nerves and draining the energy.  I am wiped out.

The thing that pained the most (and hence had a depressing effect on writing the awards) was that writing them demanded imagination and creativity I don’t possess, and I’m sure it showed, again especially in the last four awards.

I am not an “idea man;” I am simply a “do the job man;” when told what to do, I do it.

When it’s up to me to decide what to do, I’m at a loss. 

So future Top DUmmies contests should involve a third person (no need to volunteer now; we got eleven months to figure this out), an “idea man” to determine what “angle” an award should take; after that’s decided, the writing’s as easy as strawberries-and-cream.
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Re: future Top DUmmies contests
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2014, 03:34:13 PM »
I can give it a try
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Re: future Top DUmmies contests
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2014, 03:46:44 PM »
I can give it a try

Your stats are similar to mine, Mosh. And you might have the knowledge. But I think the "idea man" job deserves someone of longer tooth, say between 1000 - 10000 post and 5-7 years experience in primitive studies. Kind of a PHD (piled high and deep) a Doctorate, so to speak, in primitive lore.

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Re: future Top DUmmies contests
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2014, 03:52:14 PM »
We got eleven months to figure this out, and hence no need for anyone to commit him- or herself right now.

But yes, such a third person would have to be someone on the same level of knowledgeability of the primitives as Mr. Wiggum and myself; for all I know, it could actually be someone with only ten posts rather than ten thousand posts (after all, not everybody's talkative), but that's for later.....
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Re: future Top DUmmies contests
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2014, 04:27:06 PM »
Going forward, I need to take a new approach to the proglodytes.

I hope to become better at observing them.  Not just as primitives on Skin's Island, but to also be able to categorize them into sub-orders such as narcissistadon, pabulum-pukasapien, gob-frothling or organ-grinding striped-ass goatmongerus. - 


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Re: future Top DUmmies contests
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2014, 04:52:39 PM »
This could be a very,very unpredictable year for me but always try to be available.

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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2014, 05:45:42 PM »
Even though you synopsis of the winner wasn't as long as some of the other also rans, I though it was by far your best.
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2014, 06:45:39 PM »
Going forward, I need to take a new approach to the proglodytes.

I hope to become better at observing them.  Not just as primitives on Skin's Island, but to also be able to categorize them into sub-orders such as narcissistadon, pabulum-pukasapien, gob-frothling or organ-grinding striped-ass goatmongerus.

Oh now, madam, I know you worried about your votes this year, because GOBUCKS and I didn't like them.

No one, but no one, needs to apologize for the ways they voted; it's all good.

On the matter of "uninformed voters," this had been a problem in past years when every Tom, Dick, Harry, and Sally voted, but this year it was considerably less of a problem.

You do good, and your enthusiastic participation in the DUmpster has been noted, and very much appreciated.

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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2014, 06:51:20 PM »
This could be a very,very unpredictable year for me but always try to be available.

That's the deal; working on the Top DUmmies takes a lot of time of the people involved, and so it's important that one be available, and immediately so, during the month of December.....precisely, exactly, that very month people tend to be busiest in real life. 

That was always my selling-point when I wanted involved; because I am who and what I am, the month of December's a slow time for me in real life, and so I could dedicate time to this enterprise, no problem at all.
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Re: future Top DUmmies contests
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2014, 07:02:56 PM »
Even though you synopsis of the winner wasn't as long as some of the other also rans, I though it was by far your best.

I looked for the pre-written obituary I wrote last October, but couldn't find it, and so wrote that off the top of my head at a time when I was most tired, and irked of the weather.  (This computer has more "space" dedicated to Microsoft Word documents, than to anything else.  I can't find things all the time, and have to rewrite them.)

This place has all these really big windows, on all four sides, all of them wider than I am (of course) and nearly all of them taller than I am, and so when inside, one's always looking outside, at the scenic wonders of the Sandhills of Nebraska.

But because it's been sub-zero out there, one doesn't dare go out there.

I'm really surprised at how much of my life, other than when I'm sleeping, I spend outdoors.  I'd always considered myself a "the comforts of home inside" sort of person, but apparently I've considered wrongly.
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Re: future Top DUmmies contests
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2014, 07:13:01 PM »
I still say we do it by committee.

The votes are tabulated so we know who is which.  Coach can continue to write the "Named" awards and perhaps #1 DOTY.  The others can be assigned out -- 1 or 2 per volunteer.

A template could be used to capture the particulars but it would be up to each volunteer to find appropriate quotes, links, examples, etc. and wax as eloquent as he/she can.

I think that would spread the work and the fun and no one has to get dragged out or overwhelmed by the sheer hate that comes out of that toilet.

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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2014, 07:15:32 PM »
My two cents, hope it helps. If not, I am fully equipped with FR and Nomex Blast suit.

No need to don such apparel, sir; your basic point is good, that such a third person has to be someone with at least the same level of knowledgeability of the primitives as the other two persons, and longevity on conservativecave, along with post-count, are good criteria.

But they're not absolute.  Pretty much absolute, but not completely.

Take, for example, the case of whiteguyPI, who's been here since the beginning, but who probably doesn't even have fifty posts yet. 

whiteguyPI was one of the movers-and-shakers at our old home, in the enterprise to expose the lying tits primitive, the "TomInTib" primitive, and the first one to be successful.  Hardly anybody here's ever seen him, but he's here every day, and we all owe him gratitude for his yeoman work on the lying tits primitive.

He's just not the loquacious type, which is okay--but by listening rather than talking, he's probably one of the champion knowers-of-primitives.
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2014, 07:24:02 PM »
No need to don such apparel, sir; your basic point is good, that such a third person has to be someone with at least the same level of knowledgeability of the primitives as the other two persons, and longevity on conservativecave, along with post-count, are good criteria.

But they're not absolute.  Pretty much absolute, but not completely.

Take, for example, the case of whiteguyPI, who's been here since the beginning, but who probably doesn't even have fifty posts yet.  

whiteguyPI was one of the movers-and-shakers at our old home, in the enterprise to expose the lying tits primitive, the "TomInTib" primitive, and the first one to be successful.  Hardly anybody here's ever seen him, but he's here every day, and we all owe him gratitude for his yeoman work on the lying tits primitive.

He's just not the loquacious type, which is okay--but by listening rather than talking, he's probably one of the champion knowers-of-primitives.

Thanks, franksolich. I appreciate your words. And you're right. After only 3 years on this board and shy of 600 responses, I have not the knowledge or the inclination to wallow in that cesspool of sedition to be of much use with DOTY.

But I do enjoy the EoY festivities of nominations, voting and keeping score with the results.

Edited: to correct a small sp error.