TX cop killed during a raid for drugs- DUmmies embrace the druggie

[Tucker]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024225428#post11

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 05:17 PM

Comrade Grumpy (6,018 posts)

Texas Deputy Killed in a No-Knock Raid for Some Pot Plants
Courtesy of the Drug War Chronicle. What a stupid waste.

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2013/dec/24/texas_deputy_killed_dawn_noknock

Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid

by Phillip Smith, December 24, 2013, 04:40pm


A Burleson County sheriff's deputy leading a dawn, no-knock drug raid was shot and killed by the homeowner last Thursday. Sgt. Adam Sowders becomes the 40th person to die in US domestic drug law enforcement operations so far this year.

Although Sowders was killed early last Thursday morning, we delayed reporting the story because the sheriff's department refused for several days to release search warrant information that would have verified it was indeed a drug-related search warrant.

According to the Bryan-College Station Eagle, Sowders had obtained a search warrant for the residence after obtaining information that the homeowner was growing marijuana and possibly had stolen guns. The warrant was a "no-knock" warrant, meaning police were to forcibly enter the residence without giving residents a chance to respond.

Sowders, the first officer through the door, was shot and killed by homeowner Henry Goedrich Magee, 28, who has now been charged with capital murder. But Magee's attorney, famed Houston defense lawyer Dick DeGuerin, said Magee and his pregnant girlfriend were sleeping in the home when they heard "explosives" going off and loud pounding at the door. Moments later, the door burst open and a person Magee couldn't identify entered the residence. Magee grabbed a rifle leaning against his bedroom door frame and shot Sowders. According to DeGuerin, Magee shot him because he "believed the man rushing in was an intruder and he needed to defend himself."

Magee has a felony and a misdemeanor drug conviction, but DeGuerin said all investigators found inside the trailer were a few marijuana plants and four guns that were all legal. DeGuerin pointed at the no-knock warrant as a contributing factor in Sowder's death.

"The danger is that if you're sitting in your home and it's pitch black outside and your door gets busted in without warning, what the hell are you supposed to do?" DeGuerin said.

It's amzing how they manage to overlook the convicted felon in possession of a gun part. That's a violation of federal law.

Response to Comrade Grumpy (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 05:21 PM

RedstDem (882 posts)
1. using law enforsements own words

looks to be righteous kill.......(from whats known so far)..

Response to Comrade Grumpy (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 06:06 PM

Gravitycollapse (4,477 posts)
4. I feel no worse for this deputy than I would for any other common criminal.

Who breaks into someone's house. Actions have consequences.

Response to Comrade Grumpy (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 08:36 PM

Star Member Savannahmann (2,087 posts)
8. Let's hope the homeowner is reloading even now

Good shot Magee.

Damn. Magee is my maternal namesake.

Response to Comrade Grumpy (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 09:19 PM

Star Member TheKentuckian (18,408 posts)
10. One should have an expectation of a bullet when busting into someone's home.

No knock should just be illegal for the safety of everyone involved.

Gotta give em time to flush the drugs.

Response to Comrade Grumpy (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 09:35 PM

NickB79 (10,406 posts)
11. How can Magee have a felony conviction on his record

And yet still legally 4 firearms in his residence?

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 10:16 PM

Comrade Grumpy (6,018 posts)
14. Good question.

"While Magee did have four guns inside his home -- a .308-caliber semi-automatic rifle, the weapon Magee shot Sowders with; a .223-caliber rifle discovered locked up in a safe, along with a shotgun given to him by his grandfather; and a handgun that belonged to his mother found in the kitchen -- they were all legal, DeGuerin said."

In some states, you can get your gun rights back after serving time for non-violent offense. I don't know about Texas.

Nope. That was changed in 68 to include all felons. It was part of the GCA 68 law that was passed after the little punk got shot in LA.

Response to Comrade Grumpy (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 10:13 PM

Dawson Leery (10,028 posts)
13. The homeowner had every right to defend himself.

The Texas castle doctrine law says this.

The cover the right to legally defend yourself. The defining word is "legally."

[FlaGator]

I'm going to have to side with the DUers on this one. If someone breaks in to my home and I don't know them or expect them then odds are they are getting shot.

[Tucker]

I'm going to have to side with the DUers on this one. If someone breaks in to my home and I don't know them or expect them then odds are they are getting shot.

Not disagreeing with you on that. First they have no empathy for the cop getting killed. Secondly, they overlook the felon in possession of a firearm. No... not just overlook it, but embrace and justify it.

[Freeper]

I'm going to have to side with the DUers on this one. If someone breaks in to my home and I don't know them or expect them then odds are they are getting shot.

I think you missed the point, normally the DUmmies boo hoo themselves to sleep when a criminal gets a lead injection while attacking an innocent victim. In this case all of a sudden owning and using a gun isn't a bad thing to them. If the drug addled idiot broke into a cop's house they would be demanding the cop be arrested, and all cops only allowed guns on duty and not at home.

[Mr Mannn]

I'm going to have to side with the DUers on this one. If someone breaks in to my home and I don't know them or expect them then odds are they are getting shot.

Me too. No knock raids are a recipe for abuse. Explosives have gone off in children's bedrooms, innocent people have been shot to death by cops at the wrong address....
Nope, I'm fully on the side of DU with this.

If someone is smashing in my door, I'm assuming its a home invasion first. Too bad if its a cop.
No knock raids should be the rare exception, not the rule.

[GOBUCKS]

I've seen a lot of these no-knock raids on TV, and the cops without exception identify themselves loudly and clearly as they enter.

They just don't give the criminals time to destroy evidence or prepare to resist.

Anyone who shoots a cop during a no-knock raid is guilty of murder.

It's unfortunate the other officers in the raid were so slow on the trigger that the killer survived.

At least it's Texas, where cop killers are more likely to face justice.

The killler is white, so he's in deep trouble even if there are democrats on the jury.

[thundley4]

Sgt. Adam Sowders becomes the 40th person to die in US domestic drug law enforcement operations so far this year.

I like how vague that is. How many of them were criminals that brought it on themselves, how many were unjustified by the police and how many were cops shot by the criminals?

[Tucker]

I like how vague that is. How many of them were criminals that brought it on themselves, how many were unjustified by the police and how many were cops shot by the criminals?

I wondered if any in that total were border patrol agents that got killed with obama's fast and furious weapons.

[67 Rover]

I've seen a lot of these no-knock raids on TV, and the cops without exception identify themselves loudly and clearly as they enter.

They just don't give the criminals time to destroy evidence or prepare to resist.

Anyone who shoots a cop during a no-knock raid is guilty of murder.

It's unfortunate the other officers in the raid were so slow on the trigger that the killer survived.

At least it's Texas, where cop killers are more likely to face justice.

The killler is white, so he's in deep trouble even if there are democrats on the jury.

It is possible the explosions the homeowner heard were flash bangs and after that it would not matter how loudly they scream law enforcement upon entering the home the homeowner is not likely to have heard it.

[vesta111]

It is possible the explosions the homeowner heard were flash bangs and after that it would not matter how loudly they scream law enforcement upon entering the home the homeowner is not likely to have heard it.

 

 How many of us have any idea of what a flash bang is in the first place. The female in the home is pregnant, if her boyfriend were not at home or the cops got the wrong address, in the middle of the night get invaded in ones home, Grab a gun and fire it is just human nature.

This home owner was just protecting himself, girlfriend and their baby.    I can not give a damn if this homeowner is a felon or a car thief, he has the right to defend himself and family from unknown danger.

This crap about not allowing suspects to destroy evidence is funny, just try flushing a 3 foot pot plant down the toilet.

The No Knock law that is dangerous, two many people have died both civilians and police have died because of it as I looked into it.

I know the terror of having a warrant to search my home and confiscates  my poor old PC.I got it back in 3 weeks but I had bought a new one and did not give a rats Ass if the old one was returned.  I was more concerned on how anyone could get into my PC and use it to defraud others.  Never did know how this happened, but fortunately the police came in the day time and did knock on the door.

Had the police come at night when hubby was Bowling and kicked in the door, things may have taken a very nasty turn.

[GOBUCKS]

It is possible the explosions the homeowner heard were flash bangs and after that it would not matter how loudly they scream law enforcement upon entering the home the homeowner is not likely to have heard it.

There's no justification for a cop being shot during a raid, ever.

And maybe it's a technicality, but the "homeowner" was an armed convicted felon.

Note that the source of all the information in the DUmp thread is an online blog for potheads and druggies, stopthedrugwar.org.