primitives discuss cheating the government

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1141359

Oh my.

duffyduff (2,095 posts)     Sun Dec 8, 2013, 11:21 PM

Supplementary Security Income and Plasma Donation

I was wondering if anybody here knows if plasma donations, which aren't paid by check and no 1099 sent at the end of the tax year but instead are paid via a card for cash payout, affect a monthly SSI check amount. In other words, whether this amount is considered like a wage from a job and is supposed to be reported to Social Security so they can recalculate the monthly benefit. I have looked all over the internet, including the Social Security website, and I can't find anything at all.

customerserviceguy (15,561 posts)    Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:25 AM

1. I wouldn't worry about it

Especially since payment is anonymous.

Besides, this isn't getting paid for "work", it's just selling something you own.

ozone82 (12 posts)   Thu Dec 12, 2013, 07:31 PM

2. I Am Disabled....

And on SSI, and I donate plasma twice a week. It is not reported to the government by CSL, nor have I told the state or the feds. Depending on the state you are in, you can lose some, or all benefits if it is reported. Only close friends know I donate, safer that way.

duffyduff (2,095 posts)    Fri Dec 13, 2013, 11:44 AM

3. Thank you both for the response.

You would think that if it had to be reported for SSI, it would be in the SS brochures and such. I know in some states that have disability benefits that supplement SSI, they do require disclosure. Oregon doesn't have the disability benefits.
 
My brother donates to CSL, and I have never seen any kind of reporting done there.
 
I had to really look to find information on it, and I found nothing that pertained to SSI.

[I_B_Perky]

Yo dummies? You are breaking the law. You are cheating the government out of their money. Same thing you blame the eeeeeevil rich for doing. Of course you justify it saying you are poor. Don't matter. You are no better than the people you berate for avoiding taxes.

Hypocrites.

[franksolich]

By the way, is it true that plasma donations are anonymous?

If so, that makes me really nervous.

Back in August 2009, when the esophagus exploded and I lost a lot of blood, the hospital was suggesting transfusions, but I rejected it, for fear the blood'd be contaminated, sold by a primitive or something.  They thought it was risky, but I was allowed to get away with it.

[98ZJUSMC]

Yo dummies? You are breaking the law. You are cheating the government out of their money. Same thing you blame the eeeeeevil rich for doing. Of course you justify it saying you are poor. Don't matter. You are no better than the people you berate for avoiding taxes.

Hypocrites.

Nah.  They'll tell you they're only cheating the ReTHUGliKKKan part. 

[DefiantSix]

customerserviceguy (15,561 posts)    Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:25 AM

1. I wouldn't worry about it

Especially since payment is anonymous.

Besides, this isn't getting paid for "work", it's just selling something you own

You keep using that word: I don't think it means what you think it means, DUmbass.

Considering that the bloodsuckers are going to check and verify your identity and local residence, as well as run your name through a national database to see what deseases other collection centers have found on your unsanitary ass before you close to within 10 feet of a needle, "anonymous" is just about the last word I would use to discribe it.

Oh, and by the way; those debit cards they pay you with now? They may not be sending you a 1099, but they're sure as shit reporting every dime they waste on you on THEIR taxes.

But I wouldn't worry about it. When that knock at your mama's door comes at 02:30 in the morning, just holler real loud, "Dave's not here!" That ought to get them moving on about their business... 

[Ptarmigan]

Yo dummies? You are breaking the law. You are cheating the government out of their money. Same thing you blame the eeeeeevil rich for doing. Of course you justify it saying you are poor. Don't matter. You are no better than the people you berate for avoiding taxes.

Hypocrites.

Hypocrites of the worst kind.

[I_B_Perky]

Hypocrites of the worst kind.

That seems to be a liberal trait Ptarmy. Not just a DU trait, but a liberal trait. From Mikey Moore and Warren Buffet all the way up to obumble.

[DumbAss Tanker]

It's income, for income tax purposes, but it's not wages, a distinction that somewhat matters for Social Security purposes.  And at least for the pension aspect of social security, you can earn something like 15 grand a year before they start off-setting anything.  Don't know if that applies to the SSDI as well, and hope to never find out.

[obumazombie]

It isn't worth the IRS's time. They have much bigger fish to fry. No one on their income scale would ever get audited.

[Bad Dog]

It isn't worth the IRS's time. They have much bigger fish to fry. No one on their income scale would ever get audited.

Like the Tea Party.

[diesel driver]

customerserviceguy (15,561 posts)    Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:25 AM

1. I wouldn't worry about it

Especially since payment is anonymous.

Besides, this isn't getting paid for "work", it's just selling something you own.

Last time I looked, this was called "capital gains", and yes, you have to pay taxes on it.

Sorry, DUmbass.

[obumazombie]

Like the Tea Party.

Bingo

[vesta111]

It's income, for income tax purposes, but it's not wages, a distinction that somewhat matters for Social Security purposes.  And at least for the pension aspect of social security, you can earn something like 15 grand a year before they start off-setting anything.  Don't know if that applies to the SSDI as well, and hope to never find out.

Hold on Tanker, are you saying the government owns our bodies or the body's of our children ?

One thing I have wondered about is just who does own our body's.

Can we for instance sell our kidney or sell our bone marrow to someone that needs it ?

Then the dreadful idea that when a woman gets a late term abortion, who Owns the body, the mother, the doctor or the Sanitation system that collects the body's.

A person has to ask these questions, If I lost a leg in an accident can I bring that leg home with me ?   

If someone tracks me as a Mormon with pure kidneys and offers me $200,000,00 for one, why cannot I sell it ?   Why pay taxes on the income, down the line as I have lost a body part that may shorten my life.

Then the host mothers that agree to carry another couples child for 9 months.  They receive living expenses for themselves and a buy out when the child is born.   Since this body part is laying right next to the hosts kidney, why can she be paid for the child but not also sell the kidney.

    Heard about a kid killed in a traffic accident.   The boy had his leg cut off and some person in the police department responding  walked off with the leg. This officer was training cadaver dogs and found a good tool to use in training.   Fresh and ripe, no thought of the victims family, the dead was a tool to benefit society.

So this dark thought hit me, why do not police departments training  cadaver dogs just head for the local abortion clinics and use the baby's for training ?

We stand speechless when an area in another country find thousands of thousands of baby skulls buried.

How many more thousands of baby's die in just the US  each year ??? Where do these baby's go ?

Remember the great buffalo kill off and the bones were sent back as fertilizer,   Well perhaps these children could also be uses as fertilizer, for some expensive Orchard growers.   

A cold and dark morning and I am musing on 15 different ideas---------don't know if to laugh or cry at humanity.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Put down the crack pipe, vesta.  I could explain in greater technical detail what I was saying, but I shudder to think what you would post in response if I did.  In consideration of the sensibilities of GOBUCKS and others, I shall therefore refrain.