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Primitive hypocrites bemoan ideological segregation
« on: November 15, 2013, 12:19:11 PM »
Stupid primitives can't even recognize their own behavior.  They go on their explicitly ideologically segregated website, bash anyone that doesn't think like them, and then talk about how wrong this is.  Then they project their behavior and intolerance and bigotry on others, failing to recognize it in themselves. Morons all.  Hypocrites all.


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Americans Are Increasingly Segregating Themselves in Ideological Enclaves
 
http://www.alternet.org/culture/americans-are-increasingly-segregating-themselves-ideological-enclaves
Does your next-door neighbor vote the same way you do? How about the couple who live across the street, or your friends on the next block?
The odds you answered “yes” or “probably” to those questions have increased dramatically in recent decades. Forget red states and blue states: We’re increasingly living in red or blue counties, cities, even neighborhoods.
This phenomenon has been widely cited as one reason behind our current political polarization: It allows strident voices on the right and left to fairly insist they’re fairly representing their constituents. But why exactly are we engaging in this sort of ideological segregation?


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8. It's the only way you can carry on business anymore.

RWers and liberals are further apart now than I can ever recall, so they can't work together. A divided government means nothing gets done nowadays, and everything begins to fall apart when you have a government that can't do business. People need to live in a place with a working economy, so they go and find a place with a lifestyle that suits them.

Who wants to live in a place where you have nothing in common with anybody and in fact, the people are even hostile to you and your preferences? Minorities have already been moving to more friendly places for a long time; now everybody's doing it. It's sad we can't even tolerate each other enough to live on the same street.



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9. Part of that is switching parties rather than ideologies, and another part...

...can be attributed to the prevalence of scorched-earth demagoguery and its promotion.

For the first part: The Republicans wooed Dixiecrats and have marginalized those politicians deemed insufficiently-conservative from their ranks. "Rockefeller Republican" is a term of scorn and an accusation of quisling-hood, which pushed some into the Democratic column or independent. The Southern Strategy removed one of the historic factors that caused the intra-party mixes of ideologies.

The other part is demagoguery, most of it also fostered by conservatives. The strategies for conservatives to take control of the Republican party and to defeat the Democrats and Democratic programs was to foster and mobilize anger -- over guns, over sex (/abortion), over taxes, over social issues -- to pry apart the Democrats' New Deal coalition. They didn't necessarily create the anger, but they were adept at stoking it and encouraging it to be directed politically in certain directions.

Once you've created or enhanced the view that the "other side" is pure evil, how can you compromise. How can you work and live next to people who (you think) want to destroy the country?

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Re: Primitive hypocrites bemoan ideological segregation
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2013, 12:21:32 PM »
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The other part is demagoguery, most of it also fostered by conservatives.

Oh please.  :mental: :thatsright:
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Re: Primitive hypocrites bemoan ideological segregation
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2013, 12:45:07 PM »
I am always amused at those who in the course of making an accusation commit the exact act they are condemning.

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Re: Primitive hypocrites bemoan ideological segregation
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2013, 01:14:31 PM »
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Star Member LuvNewcastle (5,205 posts)
8. It's the only way you can carry on business anymore.

RWers and liberals are further apart now than I can ever recall, so they can't work together.

Wasn't the rodeo clown supposed to end all of that?  Unite us, as it were?

Did he lie about that, too, DUmmie?
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A community may possess all the necessary moral qualifications, in so high a degree, as to be capable of self-government under the most adverse circumstances; while, on the other hand, another may be so sunk in ignorance and vice, as to be incapable of forming a conception of liberty, or of living, even when most favored by circumstances, under any other than an absolute and despotic government.

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Re: Primitive hypocrites bemoan ideological segregation
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2013, 01:26:23 PM »
Oh please.  :mental: :thatsright:

I'm pretty old, and can remember the way it used to be.

Political differences among friends at one time used to be about as consequential as if one person collected postage stamps, and another person collected butterflies.  Politics, like hobbies, were important, but not that important.

It all changed in November 1980.

Before then, after a presidential campaign and election were over, the losers congratulated the winners, and the winners expressed fine sentiments about the losers.  After which everybody went on to more-important things.

It all changed in November 1980.

Despite that they should've been happy they were getting rid of one of the most incompetent Democrats possible, a blot on the Democrat party, and could use the opportunity to find another Democrat far more worthy, far more competent, the Democrats weren't.

Talk about sore losers.  They'd never been this way before.

If anybody's bothered by the Great Divide of partisanship, well, the Democrats started it.

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Re: Primitive hypocrites bemoan ideological segregation
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2013, 06:19:31 PM »
I am always amused at those who in the course of making an accusation commit the exact act they are condemning.
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