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a primitive's deep dark secret
« on: October 29, 2013, 02:51:14 PM »
I’ve been intrigued for quite a while by a certain characteristic of a certain primitive, and when she lit a campfire on Skins’s island recently questioning the validity of certain crime statistics, I decided to puzzle it out, why she feels, and acts, the way she does.

Never mind the identity of the primitive; I’m a nice guy and don’t want to stir up suppressed memories.  I’ll keep the details, while accurate, vague enough so that nobody knows who she is, so that she doesn’t feel exposed.

There are many apologists among the primitives, for the misdeeds of a certain minority group, as if their being a minority excuses their rude behavior.  But this particular primitive has stood out for years and years now, as the champion apologist and excuse-maker.

In fact, she was the one who, with the sparkling old dude, flamed the fires of racism on Skins’s island, about two years ago, when she took up the cause of a dead teenaged thug, vigorously fanning race-hate against those who simply wanted to see justice done (which it eventually was).

She’s always been an enigma to me because on one hand she preaches that a certain minority group can do no wrong.

But then on the other hand, she doesn’t seem to like people in that minority group.

She lives in the whitest state in the union.

Some years ago, when we were still at our old home, some other primitive lit a campfire on Skins’s island that was brought over there; it had to do with the possibility of inner-city Los Angeles being devastated by an earthquake, and the primitive who lit the campfire suggested that these people be moved to safer places. 

Somewhere along the line, this particular primitive butted in, saying, “Well, don’t send them up here to Vermont; we don’t want them.”

Apparently while this primitive likes members of this particular minority group in the abstract, as part of some amorphous blob, she doesn’t like individual members of this same group; can’t stand them.

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At some point during my contemplation of this contradiction, like Saul on the road to Damascus, I was abruptly illuminated by a great light--whoa--the “Stockholm Syndrome.”

The “Stockholm Syndrome” is a phenomenon that occurs when someone who has been abused or victimized by a certain group of people, instead of resenting it, that person perversely comes to sympathize with the abusers and victimizers.

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Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness…..

Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes “strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.”…..

This particular primitive, now bordering on the age of 65 years, was raised in rather affluent circumstances in Connecticut, and was sent to a girls’ polishing-off school in California.  Given the culture of the times, she became hippie-ized, a radical chic chick, for whom one of her hobbies was hanging around with the sort of persons she’d heretofore been utterly ignorant, a certain minority group.

Such interest wasn’t because she was truly interested in the plight of the oppressed, but simply because she wished to shock, to offend, what she thought of as the dominant-culture oppressors.

A lot of hippies were like that; it was a way of getting back at their parents.

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There exists a very good book, Common Ground, published circa 1980, dealing with the Boston school crisis of the mid-1970s, when affluent white liberals sought to preserve their own by coercing poor working-class whites to integrate with poor working-class blacks.

It’s a very long book, but it’s also a very good book.  (For the edification of lurking primitives who judge books by their cover, it was written by a far-left liberal.)

Buried in it is a short description of a graduate student in women’s studies at the time (the mid-1970s, remember), who’d become radicalized by the convulsions of the hippie era, who developed an affinity for male members of a certain minority group.

She had no idea of their nature, but it was hip, cool, trendy, with it, to hang around with such guys.

One night, when she was where she shouldn’t be, she was grabbed by one, beaten and raped, the guy defecating into her mouth, in what had to be, to put it mildly, a traumatic experience.

Oddly though, despite such a horrific experience, she developed an affinity for this guy, for this class of people.

Now, this was more than forty years ago, and this is not this particular primitive; one wonders what ever became of that woman, and hopes that she lived out her days in the safety of a nuthouse.

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Now, I doubt this particular primitive had an experience matching all the details of this, but I’m left wondering, given her vigorous espousal of a certain oppressed minority group despite her dislike of them as individuals, in addition to her low self-esteem, if she might’ve suffered some sort of abuse (I hope not this, though), and found it necessary to go Stockholm to preserve herself.

It’s just a guess, but I’ll bet I’m not far off, if off at all.
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Re: a primitive's deep dark secret
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2013, 03:13:47 PM »
It could be her, given the amount of crap that still spews from her wallduded mouth.

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Re: a primitive's deep dark secret
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2013, 03:18:03 PM »
It could be her, given the amount of crap that still spews from her wallduded mouth.

It's all there; she gives every indication of having been abused, and so as to cope with it, went Stockholm.
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Re: a primitive's deep dark secret
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2013, 03:33:37 PM »
I find it interesting that the primitive claims to have come from a wealthy background (mom has home in Conn, in wealthy part of London, etc...) but she claims poverty. One wonders what's up with that?

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Re: a primitive's deep dark secret
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2013, 03:53:12 PM »
I find it interesting that the primitive claims to have come from a wealthy background (mom has home in Conn, in wealthy part of London, etc...) but she claims poverty. One wonders what's up with that?

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She gave an indication some weeks ago she's estranged from her ancient mother and two sisters.
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Re: a primitive's deep dark secret
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2013, 04:27:36 PM »
She gave an indication some weeks ago she's estranged from her ancient mother and two sisters.

One can only hope the ancient mom will make sure to leave her a buck in the will.

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Re: a primitive's deep dark secret
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2013, 04:43:40 PM »
I find it interesting that the primitive claims to have come from a wealthy background (mom has home in Conn, in wealthy part of London, etc...) but she claims poverty. One wonders what's up with that?

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I think it leads back to the the almost universal liberal desire to be seen as a victim, of some type or another.  It makes it easier to blame away all of lifes troubles on someone else.
              

Liberal thinking is a two-legged stool and magical thinking is one of the legs, the other is a combination of self-loating and misanthropy.  To understand it, you would have to be able to sit on that stool while juggling two elephants, an anvil and a fragmentation grenade, sans pin.

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Re: a primitive's deep dark secret
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2013, 06:41:51 PM »
From wealthy New England parents, to an exclusive West Coast finishing-up, polishing-off school?

What's up with that?

East Coast patricians, especially when you go back fifty years or so to her girlhood, considered the West an uncivilized frontier, populated by painted savages and crass movie people.

Why would they have sent her there, rather than a snooty New England school like Miss Porter's or Miss Hall's?

It sounds like one of those deals back then where a girl would suddenly leave for a year's visit to a far-away relative's home, then return with no explanation, as if she had never left.

It was always girls who made those extended out-of-state visits, never boys.

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Re: a primitive's deep dark secret
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2013, 06:44:59 PM »
It was always girls who made those extended out-of-state visits, never boys.

Yes, the school for unwed mothers. 
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Re: a primitive's deep dark secret
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2013, 07:17:52 PM »
It could be her, given the amount of crap that still spews from her wallduded mouth.

There's another primitive who exhibits the same sorts of symptoms, but more mildly so.  I think I'll save that one for the Top DUmmies awards, though.
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Re: a primitive's deep dark secret
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2013, 06:17:34 AM »
She gave an indication some weeks ago she's estranged from her ancient mother and two sisters.

Could she have been forced into an abortion at a young age ?       If I remember correctly back then when I became a young pregnant girl even as I was married at the time, my doctor worked in Durham and treated the girls in college . 

I was shocked when he asked me if I wanted to keep the baby.   Why on earth would I want to kill or not want my husbands and my baby ???    I was so young and naive at that time, I had been married only a year or so before I became pregnant and began to suspect there was a lot I did not know yet about the world.   No one even my doctor ever brought up the subject of the PILL and husband and I were woefully ignorant about sex and the consequences.

Even 4 years later I found that in the State of Conn. it was a crime for a doctor to discuss options for woman.  Only place one could get the Pill in that State was to either be in the military or a dependent.   Then to skirt the law buses were sent to Housing to gather up woman once a month to ride to the base and get their pills.   We were told to never carry them in our purses off base or housing as if found on us after an accident or whatever we could be arrested for having an illegal substance on us.

So much has changed from the time she and I were girls in regards to " woman's rights"
Odd that male prophylactics were sold in the drug stores for men but woman could not buy them.

So, perhaps this woman had no choice but to abort a child or give one up for adoption. If the poster is who I think it is then that would explain her strange obsession with sex at her age.  She may still view sex as something naughty and fun to write about.   

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Re: a primitive's deep dark secret
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2013, 07:58:21 AM »
If the poster is who I think it is then that would explain her strange obsession with sex at her age.  She may still view sex as something naughty and fun to write about.

It's probably not the primitive you're thinking about, vesta dear.

But that's okay.

The primitives have no idea, either, of which of their fellow primitives I've written about, which is all good.

It's rather funny--last week, a primitive mentioned that we here know more about the primitives than they do there on Skins's island.  That's true, but it's not because we snoop, which we don't do.

We know more about the primitives because we're interested in the people around us, and notice things.

Primitives, being self-centered and narcisstic, pay no attention to each other, only to their individual selves.

It's highly unlikely, for example, that Atman knows of the brain-damaged primitive, or that dear old sweet Lu knows of the convenience store primitive.  If one were to mention my good pal Manny, the "MannyGoldstein" primitive, to the sparkling old dude, the sparkling old dude would probaby ask, "who's that?"  If one were to mention nadin to Dennis the Menace, Dennis the Menace would probably ask, "who's that?"  If one were to mention the Taverner primitive to :jugs:  :yahoo:, :jugs:  :yahoo: would probably ask, "who's Taverner?"

Seriously, the primitives all crowded onto Skins's island, don't pay attention to each other, only to their individual selves.

My moles avoid primitives prominent in the DUmpster, but some years ago, when my twin Atman was still interesting, my mole responded to him at some of his campfires.  It was the same mole every single time, but every single time, Atman responded as if it was someone new to him, someone he'd never seen before.
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Re: a primitive's deep dark secret
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2013, 08:19:41 AM »
She gave an indication some weeks ago she's estranged from her ancient mother and two sisters.

I'm would venture to guess it was by their choice, not hers.

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Re: a primitive's deep dark secret
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2013, 08:28:45 AM »
I'm would venture to guess it was by their choice, not hers.

Among other family misrelations is that this particular primitive has an adult son, perhaps in his mid- or late 20s by now.

I'm not 100% confident, but I'm more than 95% confident, that this son is half white, half a certain other derivation.

He's been in trouble before, little things such as marijuana.

She never talks about him any more, but she used to.

Those times, she showed absolutely no feeling for her own flesh-and-blood.  It's true that errant sons disappoint their mothers, but despite it all, most mothers seem to retain maternal feelings and concern for their offspring, no matter how errant.

Not this primitive; she always made it obvious she considered his visits a nuisance, an irritation, a bother.

Even poor stupid Beth retained feelings for her erring sons, who erred a great deal more than this one did.
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