F. Lee Levin scares the DUmmies

[Ptarmigan]

I'm not giving up. If you have read The Art of War, you'll understand.

For the purposes of this discussion, I'll agree that new Constitutional amendments would be followed by the Federal government.

Here are my Liberty Amendments:

1. The power of the Federal government shall not extend beyond those powers specifically enumerated in the Constitution and its amendments.

2. The United States government shall spend no money, except for money specifically budgeted. The Federal budget for any fiscal year shall not exceed 90% of the tax revenue of the second tax year preceding. The remaining 10% of the tax revenue shall be used to pay the Federal debt. If the Federal debt reaches zero, the money earmarked for debt reduction shall be placed into an escrow account for the purpose of financial stability.

3. Effective on the date of ratification of this Amendment, sovereign immunity shall be null and void for the United States government, all agencies therein, and all elected officials, appointees, employees, and agents. Each elected official, appointee, employee, and agent of the United States government may be held personally liable for all acts committed while in office; to include criminal, civil, and financial liability. The costs of legal defense and judgment against of any elected official, appointee, employee, or agent convicted or found liable for damages against any Citizen shall not be paid from the Federal budget.

4. No elected official, employee, appointee, or agent shall be paid from the Federal budget for more than twenty years' lifetime maximum. For the purposes of this amendment, military service shall not be included in calculation of Federal employment.

5. No person, corporation, nor association shall pay a greater percentage of Federal tax for income or capital gain, than any other. Calculation of income or capital gain shall be made from the first cent from all sources, without deduction or exception. The United States shall not subsidize any producer, supplier, or industry, except through purchase of goods or services.

6. Congress shall make no law which exempts any Citizen or group of Citizens, including itself.

7. Failure by the Chief Executive to fully and faithfully execute the laws of the United States shall be a "high crime" as stated in Article II, Section 4 of this Constitution.

More to come...

I like it. 

[98ZJUSMC]

Line for Levin book signing circles town

Suck on it, retards.

[Big Dog]

Number 6 suffers from the same weakness that hampers the Equal Protection clause of the 14th Amendment right now, in that it is not explicit as to who has standing to bring a suit based upon it, unless the person can prove they were directly harmed, and so amounts to no improvement over the existing language of that Amendment.  It would have to go on to say something to the effect that 'Any citizen has standing to bring suit for violation of this provision.'

I used the language in the First Amendment, "Congress shall make no law...".

I see the benefit of being explicit on the right of Citizens to have standing. That would be a good addition to Part II of Big Dog's Liberty Amendments.

[Condition1]

What is manipulated at Amazon is the review system.

There are services authors can hire to pump up a huge number of five-star reviews.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/suwcharmananderson/2012/08/28/fake-reviews-amazons-rotten-core/

All I can say is that (1) I bought the book with my own money and (2) my book review was real and I'm not in the employ of a service that "pumps up" reviews.

[Big Dog]

Thanks to DAT's wise counsel, #6 is changed to:

6. Congress shall make no law which exempts any Citizen or group of Citizens, including itself. Any Citizen who is not exempted by a Federal law  which exempts any other Citizen or group of Citizens, shall have standing to file an injunction or demand relief against the United States Government, each member of the Senate and House of Representatives who voted for the bill in question, and the President of the United States, if the President signed the bill in question.

[Doubleplusungood]

Since you seem to know why don't you tell us.

Shut up jerk. Stop being such a never ending prick to even the people on your same side politically just because they have the unmitigated gall to disagree with you on the merest of trivial matters. Somebody must have beaten your ass as a kid over and over again for you to keep up with the attitude that you clearly have as an adult.

I have a problem with #4.  If I understand you, I am done with employment with the government after 20 years. 

Unless you are military then you should be done after 20 years as a government worker. We have too damn many government workers as it is which is probably the number one reason the country is in the shitter right now.


Anyway... one amendment I would like to propose is the "Sunset Amendment" which would automatically end any law or regulation at the fed level that itself is not a part of the constitution's written language at the 10 year anniversary of its signing into law. Congress and the President at the time of the 10 year anniversary would have the option to approve the law for another 10 years, but if the votes aren't there then tough shit. Said law is null and void at that point. This would effectively kill Fedzilla, and get us back to a limited government. Bullshit fascist crap such as Obamacare would be limited in the damage it could do, as would other clearly unconstitutional legislation unless the people keep electing a Pelosi type Congress that keeps renewing it. Eventually, a somewhat sane Congress will be elected that refuses to renew it, or enough gridlock occurs that these laws expire.

[Crazy Horse]

Unless you are military then you should be done after 20 years as a government worker. We have too damn many government workers as it is which is probably the number one reason the country is in the shitter right now.

Good luck finding any skilled workers with no promise of a retirement.  Who do you think fixes, builds,,etc all those toys the military plays with??

[Dori]

Who do you think fixes, builds,,etc all those toys the military plays with??

Are those people employed by the government or contracted out to private contractors? 

[Crazy Horse]

Are those people employed by the government or contracted out to private contractors? 

Employed by the goverment.  Did everyone just miss the 650,000 DoD workers that were furloughed?

[txradioguy]

Shut up jerk. Stop being such a never ending prick to even the people on your same side politically just because they have the unmitigated gall to disagree with you on the merest of trivial matters. Somebody must have beaten your ass as a kid over and over again for you to keep up with the attitude that you clearly have as an adult.

Eat a d*ck champ.

[I_B_Perky]

Shut up jerk. Stop being such a never ending prick to even the people on your same side politically just because they have the unmitigated gall to disagree with you on the merest of trivial matters. Somebody must have beaten your ass as a kid over and over again for you to keep up with the attitude that you clearly have as an adult.

Eat a d*ck champ.

Fight!!!! Fight!!!! Fight!!!!