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Offline franksolich

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the evil twin says the party's over
« on: August 02, 2013, 09:51:32 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023383195

Oh my.

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Atman (26,464 posts)    Wed Jul 31, 2013, 09:49 PM

Is it time to just accept that our society has collapsed?

Our major cities are dystopian wastelands. Our government is run by a small handful of the ultra-rich. Our constitution is in shreds. Hey, it was a fun 237 years, but maybe it's time to admit...the party's over.
 
Of course, I heard on Fox "News" that it is all Obama's fault.

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Atman (26,464 posts)    Wed Jul 31, 2013, 10:17 PM

10. Crap flame catcher.

It was a question. I live between Boston and NYC. I visit both regularly, and I love them both. I wasn't speaking of specific cities, as if Boston falls, so falls Boston Falls (even if there was such a place as Boston Falls). Step outside your tiny mind and try to understand what I'm talking about.
 
Our government has ceased to function in any meaningful capacity. Major cities are collapsing (no, Boston isn't, and I'm sure we can point to lots of others who are not). Our federal government has turned into just a big spy center. We're parading petty spies to the media even as the government spies on us. You can stand your ground and shoot someone who looks like a bad guy you saw in one of your nightmares. If you work your whole life and pay into a pension or health care, you can be told to **** off, because some rich people want your money. Seriously? I'm just posting flame bait?
 
Bite it, then.

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Atman (26,464 posts)    Wed Jul 31, 2013, 10:45 PM

14. +100

Of course I wasn't serious about it being O's fault. But you are 100% correct that the manufactured collapse has been a long time coming.

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Atman (26,464 posts)    Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:05 PM

29. I'm not going to delete the thread, but am I going to dis-own it.

It seems to be evoking some interesting responses, and I enjoy reading them. But I admit my OP wasn't clear in its subject. No, of course I don't think our entire country is a dystopian wasteland. Hell, I live in some damned beautiful country, with two of the best cities in America nearby. I probably should have drawn out the thesis more, but screw it. Enjoy responding.
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Re: the evil twin says the party's over
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2013, 09:55:11 AM »
Look who showed up.  :lmao:
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4. In Oceana they still tried to get to the truth

The state still functioned, but not democratically. That is where we are. Possibly that is where we have been for a while, but they could not remove the veil from our eyes completely until the full "Security State" was put in place. They are safe enough from any actions we may wish to take.
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Re: the evil twin says the party's over
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2013, 10:22:26 AM »
They sure like to use the word "dystopian" a lot.   :whatever:

I'm confused.  Does dystopia occur before utopia, or does utopia have to arrive first before it can become dystopian?   :???:






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Re: the evil twin says the party's over
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2013, 10:46:23 AM »
Quote from: Dori on August 02, 2013, 10:22:26 AM
They sure like to use the word "dystopian" a lot.   :whatever:

They're like that with big, intellectual-sounding words, like when they picked up 'Stochastic.'  Like crows with shiny bottle-tops, really.
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Re: the evil twin says the party's over
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2013, 10:53:20 AM »
Funny how things were going pretty damn well right up until the beginning of 2007. What happened then, something pretty big IIRC.

That's right the evil democrat party came to power in the congress. One year after that the country took a nose dive.
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Re: the evil twin says the party's over
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2013, 11:25:25 AM »
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Atman (26,464 posts)    Wed Jul 31, 2013, 09:49 PM

Is it time to just accept that our society has collapsed?

Our major cities are dystopian wastelands. Our government is run by a small handful of the ultra-rich. Our constitution is in shreds. Hey, it was a fun 237 years, but maybe it's time to admit...the party's over.

This after electing the smarterest, and most holy, savior in the universe?  Twice?!?

Nah, not possible...

 :whatever:

Feel free to

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McGrath.
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Re: the evil twin says the party's over
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2013, 12:24:29 PM »
Pretty bitter, huh?

But you have to consider McGrath's situation. After being fired from his cartooning job nearly two years ago, he's beginning to realize his unemployment is permanent.

He has no marketable skill whatever, and is far too indolent to look for physical labor.

Yet despite his sloth, he must surely feel the shame and humiliation of depending upon his wife for every dime of his family's livelihood.

Little wonder his view of America is so warped.
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Re: the evil twin says the party's over
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2013, 01:56:34 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on August 02, 2013, 10:46:23 AM
They're like that with big, intellectual-sounding words, like when they picked up 'Stochastic.'  Like crows with shiny bottle-tops, really.

*head-------->desk*  *repeat* *repeat*

I know.  Their DNC® Handlers sent out the memo.
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Re: the evil twin says the party's over
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2013, 02:00:00 PM »
Quote from: jukin on August 02, 2013, 10:53:20 AM
Funny how things were going pretty damn well right up until the beginning of 2007. What happened then, something pretty big IIRC.

That's right the evil democrat party came to power in the congress. One year after that the country took a nose dive.

Nah....just a weird coincidence.  Ummmmm......the joooooooos really did it.

.....and Boooosh.
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Re: the evil twin says the party's over
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2013, 02:11:33 PM »
Turn out the lights, the party's over......was a great country tune.

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