Stop pretending racism is confined to Florida

[Ptarmigan]

Stop pretending racism is confined to Florida
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10023319668#post1

She is taking up the cause of racism at DU. I guess gun control did not work.  

BainsBane (14,212 posts)

Stop pretending racism is confined to Florida
 I find it astounding that people have decided that Florida alone is responsible for the kind of racism in the American judicial system evident in the Zimmerman case. There is a bizarre myopia happening where too many want to imagine that the factors that led to Trayvon Martin's death and George Zimmerman's acquittal can all be blamed on Florida alone. Racial profiling, gun proliferation, Stand Your Ground laws, and racism in the judicial system exist throughout the country. Black males are pathologized from Alaska to Rhode Island, from California to Minnesota--in each and every one of these United States.

The focus on Florida is an effort to externalize racism, to pretend it is the product of a limited, other location. The fact is racism is all around us. Black men are profiled and killed in every state in this country, and their killers too often get off because many Americans consciously or unconsciously view African Americans as worth less than whites. This is as much about our own towns, cities, and states as it is Florida. If Florida fell off the map tomorrow, we would continue to have more Trayvon Martins and George Zimmermans. Stop looking for easy scapegoats. Racism, gun violence, and unequal justice exist in all of our communities. Pretending otherwise ignores just how serious inequality and injustice really are.

greytdemocrat (1,768 posts)
1. Racism is planet wide

And not limited to blacks.

Seeking Serenity (1,932 posts)
2. Stop over-intellectualizing it!

Stop making me actually think! My emotional catharsis is all that matters! Ever!

BainsBane (14,212 posts)
3. Someone actually said that to me

completely seriously when I first made this point in another thread.

djean111 (1,379 posts)
4. Oh, hey, announcing you are boycotting Florida is cheap and easy!

Requires nothing of you!
And likely gives a little useful cardio workout, what with all the little chests puffing out!

BainsBane (14,212 posts)
7. That's about it

It certainly seems like it anyway.

Ghost of Tom Joad (910 posts)
8. So true, I did some research and found

Amadou Bailo Diallo, of 41 shots fame--officers acquitted of all charges, NY
Sean Bell--officers not guilty, NY
Patrick Dorismond--no indictment of officer, NY
Jonny Gammage--officer found not guilty, PA

Rodney King and on and on.

the film Fruitvale Station will chronicle the death of Oscar Grant in California

Blaming one state for a nationwide epidemic makes no sense. We are on a serious downward trajectory with no solution in sight.

Iggo (22,997 posts)
13. Stop pretending because it exists elsewhere, that makes it okay.

Oh, you weren't doing that, either?

BainsBane (14,212 posts)
14. Did you read the OP?

It certainly doesn't seem like it.

BainsBane (14,212 posts)
19. The point is not that it doesn't matter.

Rather than focusing exclusively on Florida or the South underestimates  how serious racism is. It seeks to externalize the problem, to pretend it isn't part of us. It is part of us. It's part of our communities, our culture, and our psyche, and it's up to each and everyone of us to combat it.

Iggo (22,997 posts)
37. Obvious strawman is obvious.

You set up yours. I set up mine.

And now I'm done explaining the obvious.

Paladin (9,062 posts)
17. Looking forward to the same discernment and tolerance being exhibited toward Texas.


Just because brain-dead region and state bashing is allowed on DU, doesn't make it right---Florida, Texas, the South, wherever.....

BainsBane (14,212 posts)
18. It's not even the region bashing that bothers me

It's underestimating the scope of the problem by fixating on a particular state or region.

HiPointDem (20,317 posts)
20. stop throwing up straw men

Apparently, even DUmmies are not too happy with PhDD.

[Bad Dog]

I kind'a like it when they bash TX.  I take it as a badge of honor.

[freedumb2003b]

Stop pretending racism is confined to Florida

Sadly it is true.  Wherever there are liberals and/or democrats, there is racism in its most evil form.

[thundley4]

Sadly it is true.  Wherever there are liberals and/or democrats, there is racism in its most evil form.

Find a liberal city that doesn't cordone the blacks off into slums or housing projects  if you can.  It's only when you get into the suburbs and small towns that blacks and other minorities live mixed in with the white people.

[obumazombie]

If you are on a rant subject at DU, you have to notice when everyone starts jumping off the bandwagon. You don't want to be on a rant there as the last one on that bandwagon.

[98ZJUSMC]

Seeking Serenity (1,932 posts)
2. Stop over-intellectualizing it!

Ummm...you're talking about USPSPhD.



Not likely.

BainsBane (14,212 posts)
19. The point is not that it doesn't matter.

Rather than focusing exclusively on Florida or the South underestimates  how serious racism is. It seeks to externalize the problem, to pretend it isn't part of us. It is part of us. It's part of our communities, our culture, and our psyche, and it's up to each and everyone of us to combat it.

Shut the phuck up, you stupid bitch.

[Aristotelian]

Given that Jugs has illuminated to us that treating members of different ethnic groups the same is racism, and given that treating them differently is (obviously) racism...it's hardly surprising that she finds racism to be widespread.

[AprilRazz]

Tons of racism in Latin America as well. You don't hear Tits McGee pissing and moaning about that though.

[Karin]

Amadou Bailo Diallo, of 41 shots fame--officers acquitted of all charges, NY
Sean Bell--officers not guilty, NY
Patrick Dorismond--no indictment of officer, NY

It's not racism per se, but NY is also terribly bigoted towards child molesters and rapists.  Back when Pataki was gov, when these poor misunderstood souls prison terms were up, he tossed them into an insane asylum.  They just tried to sue for millions, and lost.  Poor things, only trying to practice their sexual preference. 

[JohnnyReb]

Well, there is just a dab of racism in Boston.

[Carl]

How conveniently they overlook all the black on everyone inner city violence. 

[USA4ME]

BainsBane


... underestimates  how serious racism is. It seeks to externalize the problem, to pretend it isn't part of us. It is part of us. It's part of our communities, our culture, and our psyche, and it's up to each and everyone of us to combat it.

And it's mainly confined to liberals, so have fun with a bunch of idiots who won't admit they're anything but the models of perfection. We conservatives will be over here doing unto others as we would have them do unto us. I know, silly way to view relationships with others to the self-annointed "intelligensia" like you, but we'll just keep doing it anyway.

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[JohnnyReb]

And it's mainly confined to liberals, so have fun with a bunch of idiots who won't admit they're anything but the models of perfection. We conservatives will be over here doing unto others as we would have them do unto us. I know, silly way to view relationships with others to the self-annointed "intelligensia" like you, but we'll just keep doing it anyway.

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Well, there is that liberal fantasy that there's nothing wrong with them.....it's all you other people that have a problem, not me, I'm perfect.

[Wineslob]

My GOD! We've returned to the Jim Crow days!   

[Karin]

We conservatives will be over here doing unto others as we would have them do unto us

You bitter clinger you!

[dandi]

Well, there is just a dab of racism in Boston.

When I joined the Navy, some of the most malevolent racist speech I ever heard came from my shipmates from the Northeastern corridor - New Jersey, New York, Mass., New Hampshire, etc. By the mid 70s most of us Southern boys had come to peace with blacks, in fact had never had that much problem to begin with where there were no agitators to start trouble. Plus we were raised to have manners in public and towards strangers of all persuasions. So I was kind of taken aback at the naked racism of the Yankees. That same racism still exists among the Northeastern liberal elite except that it's couched in terms of lower expectations, race-baiting and cynical political pandering to stereotypes.

[Aristotelian]

When I joined the Navy, some of the most malevolent racist speech I ever heard came from my shipmates from the Northeastern corridor - New Jersey, New York, Mass., New Hampshire, etc. By the mid 70s most of us Southern boys had come to peace with blacks, in fact had never had that much problem to begin with where there were no agitators to start trouble. Plus we were raised to have manners in public and towards strangers of all persuasions. So I was kind of taken aback at the naked racism of the Yankees. That same racism still exists among the Northeastern liberal elite except that it's couched in terms of lower expectations, race-baiting and cynical political pandering to stereotypes.

Ding ding, we have a winner. ^5

[JohnnyReb]

Ding ding, we have a winner. ^5

He's spot on. In the south we grew up in, most young black kids had manners and were respectful and so were most of the white kids....as were most adults. With the help of liberals over the last 50 years, they've all gone to shit.

[redwhit]

When I joined the Navy, some of the most malevolent racist speech I ever heard came from my shipmates from the Northeastern corridor - New Jersey, New York, Mass., New Hampshire, etc. By the mid 70s most of us Southern boys had come to peace with blacks, in fact had never had that much problem to begin with where there were no agitators to start trouble. Plus we were raised to have manners in public and towards strangers of all persuasions. So I was kind of taken aback at the naked racism of the Yankees. That same racism still exists among the Northeastern liberal elite except that it's couched in terms of lower expectations, race-baiting and cynical political pandering to stereotypes.

Malcolm X said something very similar back in the 60s.

[Ptarmigan]

Causes That PhDD Has Taken Up
Islam
Gun Control
Racism

[wasp69]

BainsBane (14,212 posts)
19. The point is not that it doesn't matter.

Rather than focusing exclusively on Florida or the South underestimates  how serious racism is. It seeks to externalize the problem, to pretend it isn't part of us. It is part of us. It's part of our communities, our culture, and our psyche, and it's up to each and everyone of us to combat it.

Alexandra, dear, your hyperventilating hyperbole no longer has the same galvanizing sting that it used to.  We, the horrendous and evil white devils, have spent decades bending over backwards to see to it that others of different skin colors were handed everything they ever wanted at our expense.  In direct contradiction of the white devils were told would happen (they'll love us, everyone will be equal, etc), the situation only got worse until one day we woke up to find that the very souls you claim to love so much are so much worse than what we were ever painted to be.  At that point the give a shit line started to drop on the graph towards the ever rising "gimme cause I deserve it" line.

At some point the two vectors will meet, sugar, and the white devil "racism" that you seem to so righteously rail against will not be a factor.  Instead it will be a matter of being cursed by the very people you have been forced to support.  Almost like having bratty ass teenagers that whine about how shitty home is and how mean their parents are.  Civilized America, much like the aforementioned maligned parents, is ready to boot them out of the house and change the locks on the door and let them suffer the consequences of their petulance and ingratitude.

"Racism" is not the answer to what you are seeing, it is a problem that resides mostly in your group, in your cities, and in the people you have put in chains.  Normal, rational people see that.

I need to ask the good people of CC something:



Would anyone take seriously a woman who posts a professional profile picture at a large university that makes them look like their coming on to a 21 year old Marine from across the bar?