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Offline franksolich

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the cousin gets it
« on: June 18, 2013, 06:51:54 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023043159

Oh my.

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nadinbrzezinski (121,628 posts)    Tue Jun 18, 2013, 07:43 PM

People believe their phone calls are being listened to...

That is misinformation...

Congress critter on the TV with tweety.

No you idiot, we get it...calls, metadata, are being stored and they can go back later and look at the contents.
 
Oh the spinning is amazing.

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Whisp (17,856 posts)    Tue Jun 18, 2013, 07:47 PM

1. they can't go back and look at the contents.

There is no content, there are phone numbers from and to, duration of call.

If the FBI requests the metadata on a particular number, that is all they get. NO ****ING CONTENT as there is None.
 
How they got that number could be a variety of ways that could include regular old legwork.
 
Once they get the number, they can collect content by wiretapping that particular number. They can't go to the past and collect, they can only collect content after they have the phone numbers.
 
lordy. my spinning eyes must look really amazing.

New campfire, just lit; worth watching for further developments.
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Re: the cousin gets it
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2013, 09:28:08 PM »
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Once they get the number, they can collect content by wiretapping that particular number. They can't go to the past and collect, they can only collect content after they have the phone numbers.

That may be true true for audio phone calls, but it isn't true for text messages , emails and other internet postings.
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Re: the cousin gets it
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2013, 10:38:16 PM »
Just think if the Crown Office of Investigations had managed to gather all that metadata they might have managed to ferret out those pesky American terrorists in Boston before they did something really awful and started a revolution or something.

Using Metadata to find Paul Revere
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Re: the cousin gets it
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2013, 12:25:04 AM »
Quote from: Vagabond on June 18, 2013, 10:38:16 PM
Just think if the Crown Office of Investigations had managed to gather all that metadata they might have managed to ferret out those pesky American terrorists in Boston before they did something really awful and started a revolution or something.

Using Metadata to find Paul Revere

Why, sure.

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Re: the cousin gets it
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2013, 05:37:51 AM »
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1. they can't go back and look at the contents.

There is no content, there are phone numbers from and to, duration of call.

If the FBI requests the metadata on a particular number, that is all they get. NO ****ING CONTENT as there is None.
 
How they got that number could be a variety of ways that could include regular old legwork.
 
Once they get the number, they can collect content by wiretapping that particular number. They can't go to the past and collect, they can only collect content after they have the phone numbers.
 
lordy. my spinning eyes must look really amazing.

So called 'metadata' -particularly from a cellphone- is more than enough to know exactly where you are going, what you are doing, and with whom. The actual voice conversation isn't really necessary.
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Re: the cousin gets it
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2013, 06:41:40 AM »
Quote from: miskie on June 19, 2013, 05:37:51 AM
So called 'metadata' -particularly from a cellphone- is more than enough to know exactly where you are going, what you are doing, and with whom. The actual voice conversation isn't really necessary.

Do they really need all this today ?   Just go on Face Book to find who is connected to whom.
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Re: the cousin gets it
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2013, 08:28:52 AM »
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3. How do you know whether they are archiving call contents or not?

actual question.

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8. That is what many people have been saying for days now

and the President confirmed it last night.

Oh, Ok. That clears it up.  :whatever:
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Re: the cousin gets it
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2013, 08:34:41 AM »
Hey, remember when the DUmbasses were all up in arms, handing out peach mints and all that BS, about Bush wiretapping potential terrorists?

Funny, fast forward to today, and they now have no problem with Obama wiretapping average American people.


Sorry, I don't buy this metadata bullshit. I think it's much, much deeper than that. His gang just admitted to targeting conservative groups. I'm supposed to trust that jackass? DUmmies would follow Stalin if he were still living and running as a Dim....which is the party he'd be affiliated with.
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Re: the cousin gets it
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2013, 07:29:46 PM »
With the other programs and capabilities of the NSA to spy on anyone ,just how hard is it to get anything on anyone? Not very hard at all.
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Re: the cousin gets it
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2013, 07:57:52 PM »
So the libs will scream and shout until NSA is crippled.

Then when the muzzies blow up the Rose Bowl or Yankee Stadium or the White House, who will they blame? NSA.
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Re: the cousin gets it
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2013, 08:58:16 PM »
I can imagine code-breakers throughout all of the alphabet agencies are reading nadin's garbled bullshit and trying to figure out what code she is using and what she is saying.

Her trick is that she doesn't even know what the hell she's saying. It takes a big container to hold that much stupid. Maybe that's the reason for her size instead of a disease.
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