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WTFITS!
« on: July 05, 2013, 08:40:51 PM »
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I stopped for gas today and saw these taped to the posts holding up the canape.

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OK, so how do the Proglodytes feel about ethanol-free fuel?

Isn't the purpose of ethanol to save the erf and stuff?

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Go Vols (1,294 posts)

8. I don't buy premium
 
but I do buy only non ethanol regular and it is cost efficient and more power

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10. The do not sell the non ethanol regular in the Kansas City area. Only the premium variety.
 
Otherwise I would have checked that out too.

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9. Many stations near me carry no-ethanol gas.

One of them even sells it at the same price as their Regular ethanol mix.

I always buy the eth-free gas for my many small engines (lawn mowers, tiller, small tractors, weed cutters, outboard motor, chainsaws, etc.) & often put it into my truck at the same time. It's clearly better for the small engines, which have many components such as gaskets & small synthetic parts (nylon, plastic, etc.) that don't handle alcohol well. However, I haven't consistently noticed improved mileage, even though I agree in principle that alcohol has less energy per volume than petrol. The stuff we get around here is generally 10% ethanol, so, even if eth has 30% less energy (I don't know what the real # is), then a gallon of mixed petrol-eth would have only 3% less energy than the 100% petrol.

But engines are funny analog devices, and there's no reason to dispute your numbrs in your specific situation.

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11. Site to find real gas

Last edited Fri Jul 5, 2013, 06:07 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2)

http://pure-gas.org/

Edit: better site

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19. None within 50 miles of me.
 
Ethanol is killing my '89 Toyota.

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Drew Richards (773 posts)

13. My 99 ford explorer screws up on the ethanol crap
 
I get some diesling after long haul....increased engine heat and a lean bank 1 error that goes away the second I use non ethanol gas.

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15. Yep. I've got two vintage autos that are being slowly killed so corn corporations can get a welfare
 
check every quarter and another tax break every year.

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26. So, ethanol gas is no good?
 
Then why are the Democrats in Congress supporting it?

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Because you ****ing morons demanded it because you believe every piece of half-assed propaganda to waft past your noses.

Now we're saddled with this shit and you won't even put it in your cars.

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Re: WTFITS!
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2013, 09:35:44 PM »
Big Corn is killing my engine!!!!

These losers can't get anything right.

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Re: WTFITS!
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2013, 10:14:49 PM »
Ethanol is great for the farmers, not so good for engines, and on balance a negative to the economy.
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Re: WTFITS!
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2013, 10:15:29 PM »
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15. Yep. I've got two vintage autos that are being slowly killed so corn corporations can get a welfare

So corporations legislated that, huh?  That may be one of the most retarded comments ever, adrift in a cesspool of stupid.  Why do you knuckledragging metrosexuals hate Mother Earf?
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Re: WTFITS!
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2013, 10:18:50 PM »
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15. Yep. I've got two vintage autos that are being slowly killed so corn corporations can get a welfare
Valero Premium doesn't have ethanol, but you can thank Barry O'Bama for the high gas prices otherwise.
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Re: WTFITS!
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2013, 09:23:54 AM »
Didn't the great algore push ethanol?

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Re: WTFITS!
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2013, 09:34:06 AM »
Quote from: Freeper on July 06, 2013, 09:23:54 AM
Didn't the great algore push ethanol?

You shut your dirty whore mouth!
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Re: WTFITS!
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2013, 10:29:29 AM »
It takes almost 1.5 gallons of gas to make a gallon of ethanol. Ethanol has 80% the energy density of regular gas.

1.5/.8=1.88 So by using ethanol we use 1.88 times the gas. Using ethanol is hastening the oil depletion and making us import more oil and gas not less. Almost twice as much for each gallon of ethanol used.

Plus all the water and the fact we are burning FOOD!
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Re: WTFITS!
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2013, 10:31:39 AM »
Quote from: jukin on July 06, 2013, 10:29:29 AM
It takes almost 1.5 gallons of gas to make a gallon of ethanol. Ethanol has 80% the energy density of regular gas.

1.5/.8=1.88 So by using ethanol we use 1.88 times the gas. Using ethanol is hastening the oil depletion and making us import more oil and gas not less. Almost twice as much for each gallon of ethanol used.

Plus all the water and the fact we are burning FOOD!

More of that DUmmy math, 1.5 gallons of fuel to make 1 gallon of ethanol saves about 6 gallons of gas.  :lmao:
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Re: WTFITS!
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2013, 02:28:35 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on July 06, 2013, 10:31:39 AM
More of that DUmmy math, 1.5 gallons of fuel to make 1 gallon of ethanol saves about 6 gallons of gas.  :lmao:


Actually, if bought with EBT or unemployment cash, it's closer to 10 gal.
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Re: WTFITS!
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2013, 04:30:30 PM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on July 06, 2013, 02:28:35 PM
Actually, if bought with EBT or unemployment cash, it's closer to 10 gal.
They just plonk it all on their EBT cards along with creepy mule crackers.



 

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Re: WTFITS!
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2013, 06:33:11 PM »
Quote from: obumazombie on July 06, 2013, 04:30:30 PM
They just plonk it all on their EBT cards along with creepy mule crackers.

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Re: WTFITS!
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2013, 01:07:31 AM »
^Heh!
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Re: WTFITS!
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2013, 04:54:57 AM »
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62. Democrats have been supporting the use of ethanol ever since the mid-70s!!!

Not only did the Democratic Governor of Idaho, Cecil Andrus, sign the use of ethanol in Idaho into law, he became the Secretary of the Interior under President Carter.

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30. Oil and natural gas companies like ethanol because of the energy needed to make ethanol from growing

the corn, fertilizing it, harvesting, hauling and fermenting, distilling. None of that needed energy comes from the finished product. It all comes from fossil fuels.
From an energy stand point, ethanol barely breaks even. This country has been sold a bill of goods in so far as how we make and use ethanol.

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33. It takes so much oil and natural gas to make the ethanol...
 
that I don't think Big Oil is too worried.

Though the ethanol industry's PR stance is they are patriotic heroes saving us from the petroleum industry.

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28. Here in Atlanta it's very hard to escape the Archer Daniels Midland Tax.

There is only one place in the entire Metro area that sells ethanol-free gas. I've used it for small engines, but it's much too far away to be a realistic fill up location for my car. Fingers crossed there may be a closer place sometime this year.

**** ADM and **** the ****ing politicians who sell us out to them.

That's all you assholes do: pass a tax and feed us to corporations.

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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2013, 05:19:30 AM »
^In all fairness, they do whine about it a lot too. If you want to call that doing anything.
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