Author Topic: If one more person calls my hard earned Social Security an Entitlement. ...  (Read 1799 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Freeper

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17779
  • Reputation: +1311/-314
  • Creepy ass cracker.
Quote
trumad (34,221 posts)

If one more person calls my hard earned Social Security an Entitlement. ...


 
I will reach through the internet tubes and choke them until they turn blue.

It's not a God Damn entitlement, I PAID FOR IT!

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10022666241

If your benefits get cut, just think of it as a tax and you are paying your fair share. It's the same thing you goons want to do us tax payers so suck it up and quit whining.

Quote
Robb (37,777 posts)
1. You paid for it, you're entitled to it.

(ducks)

Quote
trumad (34,221 posts)
2. me thinks that's not what they mean.

Quote
NightWatcher (20,100 posts)
3. Straight out of Orwell, they've taken over the language

And that is not double plus good.

Who is this "they" you speak of? It is your side that constantly changes the language to suit your purposes. It was your side that started calling welfare and other freebies entitlements, even though they are not earned. You changed the meaning so you can just live with it.

Quote
whathehell (10,949 posts)
26. Agreed. The word now carries negative connotations, unfortunately, thanks to Right Wing World.

and it's hideous, but significant impact on this country.

To many, It now conveys a sort of arrogance, as in "He's thinks he's entitled". 

You tell me the 0bamaphone woman is "entitled" to her free phone and a cut of all our earnings, it was not the right wing that is responsible for the misuse of the word entitlement.

Quote
Newest Reality (2,907 posts)
4. You haven't been

checking the Newspeak dictionary:

new•speak ('nü-"spEk, 'nyü-), noun, Usage: often capitalized. : propagandistic language marked by euphemism, circumlocution, and the inversion of customary meanings. Etymology: Newspeak, a language "designed to diminish the range of thought," in the novel 1984 (1949) by George Orwell. Date: 1950


http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/ns-dict.html

Are you not entitled to your entitlements? Or are your entitlements what you are not entitled to? Both? Neither?

They play with the language as they please and to a certain end.

More projection.
Some examples of left wing language changing is global warming became global climate change, illegal aliens are now undocumented workers, marriage is being changed from a man and a woman to any person and any person, and gun control is changing into gun safety.

They also pull this trick on legislation, Affordable health care act for example.






I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

Offline jukin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16232
  • Reputation: +2115/-170
Medicare hike could also hit some in middle class http://news.yahoo.com/medicare-hike-could-hit-middle-class-075045878--politics.html
"Pugach doesn't see herself as upper-income by any stretch, but President Barack Obama's budget would raise her Medicare premiums and those of other comfortably retired seniors, adding to a surcharge that already costs some 2 million beneficiaries hundreds of dollars a year each."

The savior of medicare. Please note that medicaid will be expanded by about 11 million illegals if 0bama gets his way.

Oh and if the USA goes the way of kalifornia things will be bad. Three hospitals in the PRoLA are closing in the next two years. That should help when an estimated 3.5 million illegals get to go on medicare/medical. Food stamps up, total employment down, SSDI bankrupt, SS in the red 20 years ahead of predictions (2011), all according to plan. This is getting back at the people that built this country. Program taxes that we have paid into and were promised to get some back are all going to the low info minority voter.
When you are the beneficiary of someone’s kindness and generosity, it produces a sense of gratitude and community.

When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.

Offline Dori

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7964
  • Reputation: +406/-39
Quote
trumad (34,221 posts)

If one more person calls my hard earned Social Security an Entitlement. ...


 
I will reach through the internet tubes and choke them until they turn blue.

It's not a God Damn entitlement, I PAID FOR IT!

Depends on how much you paid in, the interest it earned and how long you collect on it.  Once the amount received passes the paid-in/interest earned, them um yeah, it's an entitlement, or Welfare for those in Loma Linda.


“How fortunate for governments that the people     they administer don't think”  Adolph Hitler

Offline franksolich

  • Scourge of the Primitives
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 58722
  • Reputation: +3102/-173
Question.

Doesn't the "average" recipient of social security retirement get back all that he paid into it, in the first seven months he collects?

Something like that?

I think the sleazeball the truemud primitive grossly overestimates how much he paid into it.
apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

Offline Dori

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7964
  • Reputation: +406/-39
Question.

Doesn't the "average" recipient of social security retirement get back all that he paid into it, in the first seven months he collects?

Something like that?

I think the sleazeball the truemud primitive grossly overestimates how much he paid into it.

SS rates have changed over the years.  Depends on how much he earned and at what rates. Remember, that your employer has to match what you pay in.
Also, the earned interest rates have fluctuated.

I think originally when it was set up, you weren't supposed to live long enough to collect it.   
“How fortunate for governments that the people     they administer don't think”  Adolph Hitler

Offline Freeper

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17779
  • Reputation: +1311/-314
  • Creepy ass cracker.
SS rates have changed over the years.  Depends on how much he earned and at what rates. Remember, that your employer has to match what you pay in.
Also, the earned interest rates have fluctuated.

I think originally when it was set up, you weren't supposed to live long enough to collect it.   

Those of us who work and pay into it, probably won't end up living long enough to collect much of it. We will probably work ourselves into the grave. Meanwhile the leeches and moochers will live to be 100 all thanks to our tax dollars.

I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

Offline franksolich

  • Scourge of the Primitives
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 58722
  • Reputation: +3102/-173
SS rates have changed over the years.  Depends on how much he earned and at what rates. Remember, that your employer has to match what you pay in.
Also, the earned interest rates have fluctuated.

I think originally when it was set up, you weren't supposed to live long enough to collect it.   

I checked my social security statement.  I've been paying into it since I was 15 years old, working as a carry-out boy at a mom-and-pop grocery store.  If I were to start collecting today, it looks to me as if in less than a year, I'd've been paid back all that I put in.

I'm sure that for each person, it varies.

But again, my point being, I suspect the sleazeball truemud grossly overestimates how much he paid into it.
apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

Offline Ptarmigan

  • Bunny Slayer
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24111
  • Reputation: +1020/-226
  • God Hates Bunnies
Quote
trumad (34,221 posts)

If one more person calls my hard earned Social Security an Entitlement. ...


 
I will reach through the internet tubes and choke them until they turn blue.

It's not a God Damn entitlement, I PAID FOR IT!

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Okay.  :mental:
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
-Napoleon Bonaparte

Allow enemies their space to hate; they will destroy themselves in the process.
-Lisa Du

Offline BadCat

  • I H8 Liberals
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3638
  • Reputation: +654/-81
trumud doesn't understand SOCIALISM very well, does it?
Help keep America beautiful...deface a liberal.

The Democrat and Republican parties are simply the left and right wings of the same bird of prey.

The road to freedom is paved with dead liberals.

21fadb4221652b86382c8f73526880b7

Offline Freeper

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17779
  • Reputation: +1311/-314
  • Creepy ass cracker.
trumud doesn't understand SOCIALISM very well, does it?

Anyone that does understand it, wouldn't be one unless they were the one in power.  :-)
I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

Offline JohnnyReb

  • In Memoriam
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32063
  • Reputation: +1998/-134
ENTITLEMENT

OK, I'm waiting for that hand to come thru my screen...... :hammer:
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."  Stalin

Offline DumbAss Tanker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 28493
  • Reputation: +1710/-151
Question.

Doesn't the "average" recipient of social security retirement get back all that he paid into it, in the first seven months he collects?

Something like that?

I think the sleazeball the truemud primitive grossly overestimates how much he paid into it.

It's all over the map, really.  There is the most modest correlation possible between contributions and payouts.
Go and tell the Spartans, O traveler passing by
That here, obedient to their law, we lie.

Anything worth shooting once is worth shooting at least twice.

Offline I_B_Perky

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7532
  • Reputation: +721/-329
I checked my social security statement.  I've been paying into it since I was 15 years old, working as a carry-out boy at a mom-and-pop grocery store.  If I were to start collecting today, it looks to me as if in less than a year, I'd've been paid back all that I put in.

I'm sure that for each person, it varies.

But again, my point being, I suspect the sleazeball truemud grossly overestimates how much he paid into it.

Maybe if you were taking the face value of the dollars put in Frank. Supposedly the SS fund earns interest on it's "investments". Now SS has to invest in government securities, which have a historical return of about 3 to 4 percent. I'm sure SS don't get that return, I heard it is actually 2 percent somewhere, but let's just say they do. So you take the money you put in each year, and compound it by 3.5 percent. Then you get a better idea of what you would have when you retire.

I read somewhere that if SS was allowed to invest in a conservative way, we are talking about 70 percent bonds, 30 percent stocks, that the return would jump up to 5 or 6 percent. Can't have that!!!! Then where would the federal government get their money!!!

Me? SS is gravy if I get it. I ain't planning on it though.
Living in the Dummies minds rent free since 2009!

Montani Semper Liberi

Offline dandi

  • Live long, and piss off liberals.
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3341
  • Reputation: +553/-28
Hey Dumbasses, remember 2005 when George Bush suggested partial privatization of SS wherein there would be private accounts with your names on them, similar to federal employees' Thrift Savings Plans, investable in a number of ways? You shit your collective pants. Well...


I don't want...anybody else
When I think about me I touch myself