Rand Paul: We ‘aren’t going to deport’ illegal immigrants in US (pimps amnesty)

[pissant]

It looks like Rand Paul is taking a page from Marco Rubio’s playbook.

The Kentucky senator and Tea Party favorite is taking a moderate approach on immigration, telling the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce on Tuesday that “immigration reform will not occur until conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution.”

He said the conversation starts by “acknowledging we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants” living in the country. “If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you,” Paul added.

It’s a big change for libertarian-minded lawmaker, who in 2011 proposed a constitutional amendment that does away with birthright citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants.

So why now?  Paul is riding a wave of popularity — he’s fresh off winning the CPAC straw poll and has been touted by several members on both sides of the aisle for his nearly 13 hour filibuster earlier this month. The looming question now is if Paul–who says he’s “seriously” considering running for president in 2016– will alienate his Tea Party base, including many who consider such plans amnesty.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/03/19/rand-paul-we-arent-going-to-deport-illegal-immigrants-in-the-us/

And just like the retarded liberal Juan McCain, Paul doesn't think legalizing 20 million illegals is amnesty.  He needs his toupee adjusted.

[Dori]

It looks like Rand Paul is taking a page from Marco Rubio’s playbook.

The Kentucky senator and Tea Party favorite is taking a moderate approach on immigration, telling the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce on Tuesday that “immigration reform will not occur until conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution.”

Who isn't on board with it?  The only anti-amnesty person I've heard so far is Ann Coulter. 

The danger is, if amnesty occurs we will never be able to win another election.  Supposedly 70% of Latin speaking voters, voted for the democrat party.  I also don't believe the numbers of 11-12 million illegals in the country.  That figure is 12 years old. 

[Freeper]

Today it is amnesty tomorrow it will be gun control. I'm loving the new GOP where we are one by one adopting the Democrats positions.

[JohnnyReb]

We don't have to deport them, give them 30 days or 90 days to leave and come back later legally. Tell them if they are caught in this country illegally they're going to a prison farm and work for a year then be deported and never allowed to return. If they do come back illegally, it's 5 years on the farm, a third time and it's life on the farm.

....and don't feel sorry for their chill-reen, we didn't make a mess of their lives, their parents did.

[Lacarnut]

We don't have to deport them, give them 30 days or 90 days to leave and come back later legally. Tell them if they are caught in this country illegally they're going to a prison farm and work for a year then be deported and never allowed to return. If they do come back illegally, it's 5 years on the farm, a third time and it's life on the farm.

....and don't feel sorry for their chill-reen, we didn't make a mess of their lives, their parents did.

Sounds like a plan to me. In just about every other country in the world. an illegal might get his/her ass kicked, imprisoned and deported without even a hearing. WTF is wrong with our politicans. Their compassionate, feel good crap is wrong headed. Send them home and put the fence up and hire more border guards with the authority to shoot if shot at.

[wasp69]

Gee, I wonder if our latest gaggle of paultards has picked up on this?

*looking*

Nope, no mention.  Curious, that...

I do see that "Trip" has managed to charm all of them with his brilliance and personality.     I wonder if he's told them about the volcano?

[DefiantSix]

Rand Paul: We ‘aren’t going to deport’ illegal immigrants in US (pimps amnesty)

Paging all those slavering Republicans who were swooning over Dr. Nutz Jr's "epic" filibuster last week. Swooning Republicans to the white courtesy phone, please...

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[pissant]

Paging all those slavering Republicans who were swooning over Dr. Nutz Jr's "epic" filibuster last week. Swooning Republicans to the white courtesy phone, please...

edited: to add...

One good speech or deed seems to be all it takes to get people all excited about a potential candidate.  Reminds me of the swooning over Dr. Ben Carson after his prayer breakfast takedown of Obama.  4 days later he's spouting the need to for gun control, depending on where you live. 

We are in deep poop unless a real leader emerges.  Jeff Sessions and James Inhofe are solid across the board conservatives.  Neither seems willing to step up to be the "leader".  Cruz may be the guy.  We'll have to wait to see, but I'll remain skeptical.

[Splashdown]

I just wish somebody would stop them from coming in. That's the first step. Then we can debate what to do with the ones who are here already.

[pissant]

I just wish somebody would stop them from coming in. That's the first step. Then we can debate what to do with the ones who are here already.

Both the Bush and Obama admins have done everything in their power to impede building the double border fence that was passed into law in 2007.  Open Borders Rick Perry and Kay Bailey Hutchinson also assisted them in killing it.

But even if the border were sealed, giving amnesty means allowing chain migration - kids, parents, uncles - etc.  Then once they are here, their kids, parents, uncles, etc.  Amnesty is suicide.

[Ptarmigan]

I never trusted Rand Paul or any politicians.

[Ptarmigan]

We don't have to deport them, give them 30 days or 90 days to leave and come back later legally. Tell them if they are caught in this country illegally they're going to a prison farm and work for a year then be deported and never allowed to return. If they do come back illegally, it's 5 years on the farm, a third time and it's life on the farm.

....and don't feel sorry for their chill-reen, we didn't make a mess of their lives, their parents did.

I like that idea.

[RobJohnson]

It looks like Rand Paul is taking a page from Marco Rubio’s playbook.

The Kentucky senator and Tea Party favorite is taking a moderate approach on immigration, telling the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce on Tuesday that “immigration reform will not occur until conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution.”

He said the conversation starts by “acknowledging we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants” living in the country. “If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you,” Paul added.

It’s a big change for libertarian-minded lawmaker, who in 2011 proposed a constitutional amendment that does away with birthright citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants.

So why now?  Paul is riding a wave of popularity — he’s fresh off winning the CPAC straw poll and has been touted by several members on both sides of the aisle for his nearly 13 hour filibuster earlier this month. The looming question now is if Paul–who says he’s “seriously” considering running for president in 2016– will alienate his Tea Party base, including many who consider such plans amnesty.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/03/19/rand-paul-we-arent-going-to-deport-illegal-immigrants-in-the-us/

And just like the retarded liberal Juan McCain, Paul doesn't think legalizing 20 million illegals is amnesty.  He needs his toupee adjusted.

Rand was talking about this for a long time before the CPAC poll. It's just getting press time now. He was on Fox over a month ago saying he supported it. Those that criticized Rubio for his amnesty goals should make sure they know Rand is on the same page.

[NHSparky]

I just wish somebody would stop them from coming in. That's the first step. Then we can debate what to do with the ones who are here already.

(Okay, putting on flame-resistant suit here...)

Newsflash, people.  We (government) don't have the political will, nor do we have the resources available at pretty much ANY level to deport 12-20 million illegals.  Sad but true.

HOWEVER, as I've said here and elsewhere for years, illegal immigration is a two-pronged effort.  First, the feds have to secure the borders and if people are caught, send them back IMMEDIATELY--none of this "catch and release" crap.  Second, for those who still manage to get in, the states need to make life so inconvenient/uncomfortable for those illegally here that they go back to their country of origin.  Make getting caught a real possibility with real punishment behind it for repeat offenders.  Make SERIOUS jail time a reality for people who knowingly employ illegals.

Problem with the second portion of this is, the states with the worst illegal problem are places like MD, NY, MA, CA, and IL; liberal states which won't sign on to this policy anyway.

Save that, I'm not sure what you do with the ones already here save eliminating federal funding for programs which illegals abuse most, much like the feds refuse to give highway money, etc., for policies which states are reluctant to follow.

[Lacarnut]

I never trusted Rand Paul or any politicians.

Me neither. His actions and speech are similar to his dad. Plus, what's up the frizola hair doo.

[Dori]

(Okay, putting on flame-resistant suit here...)

Newsflash, people.  We (government) don't have the political will, nor do we have the resources available at pretty much ANY level to deport 12-20 million illegals.  Sad but true.

Your right.  And what about people who came here as a kid who grew up here, was educated here?  Where are they going to go? 

I remember the widow of the rancher that was killed down in AZ.  She said they used to see illegals coming around looking for work.   Now she sees women with little kids and old people coming with whatever they could carry, like refugees.  In the northern parts of Mexico, the drug gangs have take over the towns and kill at will.  It's total chaos down there.  Even the army doesn't seem to be able to do anything about it.

[NHSparky]

One thing I did neglect to mention--ANCHOR BABIES.

Frankly, it's a flawed interpretation of the 14th Amendment and we are one of the few nations who claim anyone born on our soil automatically gets citizenship, regardless of the citizenship of the parents.

THAT is one of the biggest "if I were king" rules I'd change.

[ConservativeMobster]

I haven't checked Rand Paul's viewpoint but I do know that Rubio's plan is not amnesty. We shouldn't be punishing children of illegals. As Sparky pointed out, we aren't gonna be sending these people back so we better come up with a plan that will end this debate for good.

Closed the damn border first and foremost!

 

[Ptarmigan]

(Okay, putting on flame-resistant suit here...)

Newsflash, people.  We (government) don't have the political will, nor do we have the resources available at pretty much ANY level to deport 12-20 million illegals.  Sad but true.

HOWEVER, as I've said here and elsewhere for years, illegal immigration is a two-pronged effort.  First, the feds have to secure the borders and if people are caught, send them back IMMEDIATELY--none of this "catch and release" crap.  Second, for those who still manage to get in, the states need to make life so inconvenient/uncomfortable for those illegally here that they go back to their country of origin.  Make getting caught a real possibility with real punishment behind it for repeat offenders.  Make SERIOUS jail time a reality for people who knowingly employ illegals.

Problem with the second portion of this is, the states with the worst illegal problem are places like MD, NY, MA, CA, and IL; liberal states which won't sign on to this policy anyway.

Save that, I'm not sure what you do with the ones already here save eliminating federal funding for programs which illegals abuse most, much like the feds refuse to give highway money, etc., for policies which states are reluctant to follow.

It would be a huge task to deport millions even if we had the political will.

I would deport the illegals who commit other crimes.

I would be somewhat lenient if the illegal was not leaching the system and paying taxes.

[Dori]

Closed the damn border first and foremost!

Absolutely the first thing.  I was surprised when Bush didn't do it right after 9/11.  Would have been the perfect time to do it too.  Instead he called the people who were watching the border "vigilantes" and then tried to pass amnesty.

[ConservativeMobster]

Absolutely the first thing.  I was surprised when Bush didn't do it right after 9/11.  Would have been the perfect time to do it too.  Instead he called the people who were watching the border "vigilantes" and then tried to pass amnesty.

We've had this argument for so long with no resolution that it's lost it's flavor. We aren't going to build a fence, the Feds aren't going to enforce anything to keep them out. And neither are some border state governors. We've been asking, then demanding and back to asking for current laws to be applied and nada. What I've seen of Rubio's plan, what I've heard in his talks, is not unappealing to me and a better solution than ANYTHING the other side proposes. Just get it done.