Here the heart of the problem...

[formerlurker]

Sat Mar 9, 2013, 01:20 PM
nadinbrzezinski (117,003 posts)

Here the heart of the problem, to the apparent lack of worker outrage.


 
There is no sense of class in the United States. Why we all are middle class, whether you make 20K and are single, or 250K and have a family of four. We all are middle class.

In reality our 20K earning single person is a member of the working class and our 250k earning family of four is a member of the upper middle class, in cheaper markets a member of the wealthy classes. (Taking into account NYC and Los Angeles). But by a feat of propaganda both call themselves middle class..it can't be, it is not...but this is how peope self identify. And of course our 20K earning fictional worker is the next Bill Gates.

Ain't propaganda great?

And until the 20K earning worker stops seeing himself the same as our 250K family of four, who for the record does not, nothing will really change. A sense of class in the classic sense needs to come back.

http://election.democraticunderground.com/10022482611

Since when is $20K middle class?

Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)Sat Mar 9, 2013, 01:32 PM
duffyduff (590 posts)
2. A single person making 20k is actually poor, especially after taxes.

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The federal figures for poverty level don't mean squat.

I don't know where in the hell people get this idea it is cheaper for a single person to live than it is for two working people in a household. After all, single people don't get discounts for housing, utilities, food, etc.

They aren't middle class.

Response to duffyduff (Reply #2)Sat Mar 9, 2013, 01:44 PM
nadinbrzezinski (117,003 posts)
4. But he or she sees himself or herself as middle class

Look, the family making 250k is wealthy even in the LA or NYC markets, but I am using federal data for both. Under federal data, and self identification, your 20K earning worker is middle class.

Why I sad he or she is a laborer.

Nah, they really don't.

Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #3)Sat Mar 9, 2013, 01:47 PM
nadinbrzezinski (117,003 posts)
5. Yup, that history of labor of mine is taking a decidedly "strident"

Tone for the elite.

This is part of the notes.

Um.  Ok.

[Dori]

Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #3)Sat Mar 9, 2013, 01:47 PM
nadinbrzezinski (117,003 posts)
5. Yup, that history of labor of mine is taking a decidedly "strident"

Tone for the elite.

This is part of the notes.

Was this "history of labor" written by Marx?

[GOBUCKS]

Was this "history of labor" written by Marx?

It's nadin's, so the answer to your question is yes - Groucho.

[DumbAss Tanker]

It's nadin's, so the answer to your question is yes - Groucho.

No way.  He could actually use English coherently.  Gotta be Chico.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Ma'am, I don't care if I make 20k, 200k, 2 million or zero.  I'm not interested in your class warfare bullshit.  People who make more than me are not my enemies and I'm damned sure not a victim.  Perhaps if you'd spend less time rabble-rousing and more time honing any one of the millions of talents you claim to have, you could be more than a barely literate insane libtard.

[FlippyDoo]

Sat Mar 9, 2013, 01:20 PM
nadinbrzezinski (117,003 posts)

Here the heart of the problem, to the apparent lack of worker outrage.


 
There is no sense of class in the United States. Why we all are middle class, whether you make 20K and are single, or 250K and have a family of four. We all are middle class.

In reality our 20K earning single person is a member of the working class and our 250k earning family of four is a member of the upper middle class, in cheaper markets a member of the wealthy classes. (Taking into account NYC and Los Angeles). But by a feat of propaganda both call themselves middle class..it can't be, it is not...but this is how peope self identify. And of course our 20K earning fictional worker is the next Bill Gates.

Ain't propaganda great?

And until the 20K earning worker stops seeing himself the same as our 250K family of four, who for the record does not, nothing will really change. A sense of class in the classic sense needs to come back.

Why do these DUmbasses use so many words when just a few will do?

As one pretend reporter to another I'm going to do a quick rewrite for nadin. I'm going to try to keep it succinct and accurate. Here goes...
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Here's the heart of the problem, too many people are like the morons at the DUmp and have a 'give me' attitude that expects something for nothing.

[Freeper]

I don't spend my time worrying about what "class" I'm in, or how someone else has more than I do. I work for what I have and do what I can to be happy in life. Yeah I wouldn't mind if the wife and I made more, but I'd rather be happy with what we have instead of bitter because of what others have. When you spend all your time worrying about what others have you don't appreciate what you have, you sure as hell won't be bothered to work  in order to get more. That is why the DUmmies are so miserable, they are way too busy being jealous of others and miss out on any enjoyment they can have in life, and they refuse to do anything to make their own lives better. They remind me of the woman who Rush was talking about, she was wondering who was going to take care of her now that Chavez is gone.

[Zathras]

Hey DUmbasses...here is the truth. You guys and gals of the DUmp will never be any class of American, be it lower, middle or upper. You wastes of skin have no class whatsoever and there's nothing you or anyone else can do to change this fact

[98ZJUSMC]

Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #3)Sat Mar 9, 2013, 01:47 PM
nadinbrzezinski (117,003 posts)
5. Yup, that history of labor of mine is taking a decidedly "strident"

Tone for the elite.

This is part of the notes.

Yup and strident in the same sentence?  

History of Labor of .....mine....

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uhh, yeaaah....also Baldidwarf, 20K in New York and 20K in Kentucky are two completely different things.  The main reason for that?

Liberal Progressive Democrat Thieves.

Ma'am, I don't care if I make 20k, 200k, 2 million or zero.  I'm not interested in your class warfare bullshit.  People who make more than me are not my enemies and I'm damned sure not a victim.  Perhaps if you'd spend less time rabble-rousing and more time honing any one of the millions of talents you claim to have, you could be more than a barely literate insane libtard.

'Zactly.   Those rich one percenters never did anything to me except give me a job, in which they received more than an honest days work.  Perhaps you drooling idiots should try it sometime.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

The heart of the problem is...

the leftist constituency gets free housing, food, education, healthcare and enough jingle left over for cars, TVs and cellphones. They aren't outraged because they've been sedated per leftist doctrine.

The only people who are outraged are those who have to work to sustain the thieves but you don't hear their voices because you dismiss them as greedy, unfeeling racists.

[BlueStateSaint]

The heart of the problem is...

the leftist constituency gets free housing, food, education, healthcare and enough jingle left over for cars, TVs and cellphones. They aren't outraged because they've been sedated per leftist doctrine.

The only people who are outraged are those who have to work to susteain the theives but you don't hear their voices because you diusmiss them as greedy, unfeeling racists.

Target, Snugs.  H5.

[Tucker]

The truly poor of the world would love to switch places with the so called poor in the US. Domestic DUmmies consider themselves poor if the only have 1 car, 1 TV, a 1 bathroom house and dial up internet.

The bitch about Nike setting up shop in the Pacific rim, paying workers a dollar a day, completely ignoring that those Nike workers are the envy of the region.

[jukin]

Only in the wealth of a capitalist society can the poor be morbidly obese.

[I_B_Perky]

The heart of the problem is...

the leftist constituency gets free housing, food, education, healthcare and enough jingle left over for cars, TVs and cellphones. They aren't outraged because they've been sedated per leftist doctrine.

The only people who are outraged are those who have to work to sustain the thieves but you don't hear their voices because you dismiss them as greedy, unfeeling racists.

Wanna see some outrage? Cut off welfare.

[RobJohnson]

The heart of the problem is...

the leftist constituency gets free housing, food, education, healthcare and enough jingle left over for cars, TVs and cellphones. They aren't outraged because they've been sedated per leftist doctrine.

The only people who are outraged are those who have to work to sustain the thieves but you don't hear their voices because you dismiss them as greedy, unfeeling racists.

The free shit puts the DUmmies at about 60k a year before one hour of work.

[Tucker]

The free shit puts the DUmmies at about 60k a year before one hour of work.

And yet they claim that they are destitute and in need of more free shit. Dental is next of the hit list. Seeing what crank does to the teeth, they'll all need new fangs.

[RobJohnson]

And yet they claim that they are destitute and in need of more free shit. Dental is next of the hit list. Seeing what crank does to the teeth, they'll all need new fangs.

Some states do give Medicaid/Meth Addicts new teeth. Nevada included.

[sybilll]

And yet they claim that they are destitute and in need of more free shit. Dental is next of the hit list. Seeing what crank does to the teeth, they'll all need new fangs.

FWIW, I think student loan forgiveness will be the next ploy.  Unemployment amongst college grads stands at almost 25%, but they are also among the most loyal Democratic voting block.  I wouldn't be surprised at an Executive Order to accomplish it. 

[RobJohnson]

FWIW, I think student loan forgiveness will be the next ploy.  Unemployment amongst college grads stands at almost 25%, but they are also among the most loyal Democratic voting block.  I wouldn't be surprised at an Executive Order to accomplish it. 

Good point.