Anyone who is surprised that a FOX talking head got punched in Lansing today is a fool.
the DUmmy is right, anyone who is surprised that the union thugs known for violence punched him then they are either a fool or haven't been paying attention. Of course this primitive gives another reason.
Atticus (2,155 posts)
Anyone who is surprised that a FOX talking head got punched in Lansing today is a fool.
I understand that at least part of the incident may have been due to paid provocateurs, but these people are playing with real fire.
The union members and their families understand that the cowardly craven bullshit rushed through the legislature by these lame ducks is a direct threat to the welfare of their households. Unions and their collective power are the only reason these folks enjoy a living wage with decent benefits. No corporation ever volunteered to provide a better life for working people. That standard of living was TAKEN---sometimes with strikes, sometimes with the threat of a strike and sometimes with pick handles and bare knuckles---from moneyed interests whose only goal was more and more profit.
You cannot expect to shit on people in the way that Snyder and friends just did and then expect them to treat you civilly. Is violence a good thing? No, but understand: right to work is unspeakably violent to the lives of union workers. To expect that to go unanswered is inexcusably ignorant of human nature and the passions these plutocratic whores have stirred up.
If workers in union shops stop paying dues, don't expect that to go unnoticed by the rank and file. Look for their cars to be decorated with spray-painted variations of "SCAB!" and "Freeloader!" Expect vandalism. Expect fistfights.
Snyder predicts an increase in jobs. I wonder will they be good jobs or minimum wage/no benefits employment like the ones Rick Perry has attracted to Texas?
If you stand across the street and insult me, I'll laugh it off.
If you threaten me at the mall, I'll try to walk away---maybe notify management or call the cops.
If you barge into my house and threaten anyone---I'm going to hurt you---BAD!
That's where this thing is headed. The Tea Party Nation has invaded sacred ground and is messing with the lives of people who have worked hard for all they have.
Stay safe and watch each other's backs.
Lots of stupid in that post.
First the nonsense that it was right wingers in disguise punching people.
What really got me was the last line, The Tea Party Nation has invaded sacred ground and is messing with the lives of people who have worked hard for all they have. Hey DUmmy the Tea Party is fighting to keep you from messing with our lives and taking what we have worked damn hard for from us. We get called greedy for not wanting our money taken, but dare to mess with the unions profits then these same people get pissed.
Seriously DUmmies the unions are not being outlawed they are just being forced to give people a reason to hand over their money to them. Typical of the left when they have to earn something they get pissed.
abelenkpe (6,188 posts)
2. "No corporation ever volunteered to provide a better life for working people"
So true. This is why self regulation doesn't work. It's why privatization is a scam. We need stronger global unions to counter multinational corporations. And a FOX reporter? They are THE right wing corporate friendly mouthpiece...
Yet many corporations have given us a better life. It wasn't the unions who invented and mass marketed the car, unions didn't build computers, unions didn't build your iPhones, unions didn't invent all the wonder drugs that we use to keep people alive, corporations did. All unions do is suck money from the working people and make life a living hell for the corporations who provide you your job. Just like the government does.
hedgehog (29,183 posts)
3. look at the tape -
First off, it's clear that the Talking Head was breaching journalistic ethics by participating in the event - telling people to back away from the tent.
Second - there's an abrupt edit just before the fight starts. It looks to me like the physical part of the altercation started when the Fox talking head either tripped or shoved the union guy.
Oh yeah he was in the wrong for telling the thugs not to vandalize the tent.
jtuck004 (4,561 posts)
29. 50 million in poverty, nearly that many on food stamps, 50,000 people a month being
yanked out of their homes while we file over a hundred thousand more foreclosures, 1 in 4 seniors with NO income other than an insufficient social security, 24 million people on the November BLS report state they want a job, and the latest JOLTS report says there are 3.3 million jobs available. Meanwhile we are paying $40 billion a month to wealthy people to keep their assets propped up, in hopes that their largess will tinkle down upon us. And kids are leaving school on Friday, won't eat 'till they get back Monday.
No need to advocate violence. It's being perpetrated on us already. And just because one is accused of advocating violence, that doesn't make the accuser a friend. Maybe they are just naive. Or maybe worse...
Malcom X said "Anytime a shepherd, a pastor, teach you and me not to run from the white man, and at the same time teach us don't fight the white man, he's a traitor, to you and me."
I am peaceful, respectful, and if it is part of a strategy that makes sense, even though the cost is high, I'm down for it. But when it's no longer time to be nice, or if it's just some naive fool's idea that it's how their world should look, then they are likely untrustworthy, as far as I am concerned.
The vultures screwed up when they killed the Twinkies, I think
You are right the vultures, the unions, ****ed up big time. Of course if all this was happening under Bush you would be blaming him, yet 0bama sits in the oval office and none of this is his doing.
totodeinhere (6,486 posts)
12. I sympathize with what you are saying. But is it really wise?
The right is going to use this for their anti-union propaganda. They will say that this is proof that union members are violent thugs. The Drudge Report already has an article to that effect.
It's not propaganda when it's true.
So much idiocy in that thread too much to bring over.
