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Neckbeard- Retaliation a Possibility When Strikers Return to Work
« on: November 23, 2012, 12:33:25 PM »
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Union Official Says Increased Retaliation 'A Real Possibility' When Strikers Return to Work
Source: The Nation

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11:40 AM: HANOVER, MD - This morning I caught up with United Food & Commercial Workers union Organizing Director Pat O’Neill, who said the unprecedented strikes demonstrate “the courage of the workers,” and shows “they’ve reached the end of their rope.”

Interviewed as a 400-person march wound towards Maryland’s Capital Plaza Walmart (full report to follow), O’Neill said that “the bar” for today to be judged a success “is really just to spread the word, so all the Walmart associates know they’re not alone, that they are supported by the communities where they work.”

What happens after Black Friday? O’Neill, a key strategist in the OUR Walmart campaign, answered simply, “What the workers want is a dialogue with the company, and to let their voices be heard.”

I asked O’Neill whether, when today’s strikers return to work, retaliation from Walmart would get worse before it gets better. “I think that’s a real possibility,” he said. “I think that would be a mistake for Walmart to do that. I think the workers are showing that they’re not going to be silenced

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Er, Comrade. They're not unionized workers. What they did is not called a strike. It's called walking off and quitting your job.

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And I'm sure the striking workers will suddenly find themselves out of jobs, despite any worker protection laws that are in place.

I can only hope that things will get better, but I'm not sure that Walmart can be beaten by the workers alone.

Non union workers taking some bad advice from a third party that has no financial interest either way.
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Come to think of it, unions do create jobs. Companies have to hire two workers to do the work of one.

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Re: Neckbeard- Retaliation a Possibility When Strikers Return to Work
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2012, 12:38:34 PM »
OS is wetting his pants hoping for some union thuggery.   :rotf: 

Why isn't OS picketing his local Walmart ?   Solidarity neckbeard.   :loser:

 
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Re: Neckbeard- Retaliation a Possibility When Strikers Return to Work
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2012, 12:41:14 PM »
Quote from: shadeaux on November 23, 2012, 12:38:34 PM
Why isn't OS picketing his local Walmart ?   Solidarity neckbeard.   :loser:

That would actually require Socialist Steve to get up, dress, and leave the house.  Why do in person when you can b^tch about it online. :rotf:
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Re: Neckbeard- Retaliation a Possibility When Strikers Return to Work
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2012, 12:47:43 PM »
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Er, Comrade. They're not unionized workers. What they did is not called a strike. It's called walking off and quitting your job.

Non union workers taking some bad advice from a third party that has no financial interest either way.

Not true.  Walmart is the largest source of non-union workers therefore it's an untapped source of dues for the unions.  The unions don't give a shit about the workers, it's all about their dues.
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Re: Neckbeard- Retaliation a Possibility When Strikers Return to Work
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2012, 12:51:29 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on November 23, 2012, 12:47:43 PM
Not true.  Walmart is the largest source of non-union workers therefore it's an untapped source of dues for the unions.  The unions don't give a shit about the workers, it's all about their dues.

Yup, and the libs call us evil capitalists!
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Re: Neckbeard- Retaliation a Possibility When Strikers Return to Work
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2012, 12:59:17 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on November 23, 2012, 12:47:43 PM
Not true.  Walmart is the largest source of non-union workers therefore it's an untapped source of dues for the unions.  The unions don't give a shit about the workers, it's all about their dues.

I mean current financial interest. The unions won't suffer any financial hardship if any Walmart worker gets fired.
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Come to think of it, unions do create jobs. Companies have to hire two workers to do the work of one.

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Re: Neckbeard- Retaliation a Possibility When Strikers Return to Work
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2012, 01:01:55 PM »
Quote from: Tucker on November 23, 2012, 12:59:17 PM
I mean current financial interest. The unions won't suffer any financial hardship if any Walmart worker gets fired.

Well, that is true.
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Re: Neckbeard- Retaliation a Possibility When Strikers Return to Work
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2012, 01:04:09 PM »
Maybe these morons can take their "courage of the workers", add it to the "union resolve" from those idiot Hostess strikers, and see if it can create food for their families who will ultimately have to pay for their stupidity.

Utter dumbasses...
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Re: Neckbeard- Retaliation a Possibility When Strikers Return to Work
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2012, 01:17:57 PM »
Quote from: Ogre on November 23, 2012, 12:41:14 PM
That would actually require Socialist Steve to get up, dress, and leave the house.  Why do in person when you can b^tch about it online. :rotf:

Whats the problem here, one walks off their job, they call in missing shifts and arrives late and goes home early, then to top it off they bad mouth the company that gives them a paycheck.  

Now they are saying that the company may retaliate against them for not doing their job ???  :argh: :argh:

What a spin they have put on this, this is common sense that no company wants workers that are this disgruntled, look at the damage they can and will do to the company.  These people cannot be trusted to shop there much less continue to work there.

This is not retaliation, this is good business sense, for us all. No one wants to hire a house cleaner that runs about the neighborhood telling your neighbors all your business. Replacing a bad worker for a good one is NOT retaliation against the bad worker, it is not retaliation to fire a babysitter for being drunk on the job.
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Re: Neckbeard- Retaliation a Possibility When Strikers Return to Work
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2012, 01:19:16 PM »
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3. Hey, I thought only 50 people participated in the walk out. WTF? nt
If that.
All of the others were just looking for something to do to keep their minds off the Obamaconomy.
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Re: Neckbeard- Retaliation a Possibility When Strikers Return to Work
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2012, 01:41:20 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on November 23, 2012, 01:01:55 PM
Well, that is true.

You're completely correct, a union that has not been voted in does not represent anyone involved, and people striking at its call are on their own and if they're fired for walking off the job, there is no legal protection for them...nor should there be.
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Re: Neckbeard- Retaliation a Possibility When Strikers Return to Work
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2012, 01:51:07 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on November 23, 2012, 01:41:20 PM
You're completely correct, a union that has not been voted in does not represent anyone involved, and people striking at its call are on their own and if they're fired for walking off the job, there is no legal protection for them...nor should there be.

There was something about the unions being involved that made this illegal, IIRC.  Walmart has filed an unfair labor practice suit against one union, but the NRLB will go against them most likely.
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2012, 02:23:28 PM »
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4. This is intolerable. In California, this will never happen again.

It is imperative that we have a unified union presence across the country, with President Obama issuing an Executive Order if necessary to prevent hardships and deprivations to the workers whom are under the republican party's flagship retail drone. This weekend, I will be at the Long Beach Walmart, on the sidewalk, vocally demeaning the franchise, and I hopefully will get a lot of workers, most of them minorities, to join in. Should be fun to participate!

Please tell me Bannedforgroping is someones mole. 

If not, well there just aren't enough words to describe the width, depth, and breath of his stupidity.
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Re: Neckbeard- Retaliation a Possibility When Strikers Return to Work
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4. This is intolerable. In California, this will never happen again. Whiner
It is imperative that we have a unified union presence across the country, with President Obama issuing an Executive Order if necessary to prevent hardships and deprivations to the workers whom are under the republican party's flagship retail drone. This weekend, I will be at the Long Beach Walmart, on the sidewalk, vocally demeaning the franchise, and I hopefully will get a lot of workers, most of them minorities, to join in. Should be fun to participate! With what? Five or six other clueless non-employees? :loser:
Go inside, get an application, fill it out and go to work you lazyass bum.
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Re: Neckbeard- Retaliation a Possibility When Strikers Return to Work
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2012, 05:46:25 PM »
Quote from: shadeaux on November 23, 2012, 12:38:34 PM

Why isn't OS picketing his local Walmart ?   Solidarity neckbeard.   :loser:

Because the local WalMart has this checker who is a girl's basketball player at Bellevue HS, and she's really cute, dang it!

Oh, that and nobody else in town carries his favorite brand of mini tacos.  Seriously, do you know how hard they can be to come by in the larger packages?
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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2012, 06:04:30 PM »
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Please tell me Bannedforgroping is someones mole. 

If not, well there just aren't enough words to describe the width, depth, and breath of his stupidity.

I think they really do believe Obama was elected dictator.   :whatever:
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Re: Neckbeard- Retaliation a Possibility When Strikers Return to Work
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2012, 06:50:07 PM »
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4. This is intolerable. In California, this will never happen again.

It is imperative that we have a unified union presence across the country, with President Obama issuing an Executive Order if necessary to prevent hardships and deprivations to the workers whom are under the republican party's flagship retail drone. This weekend, I will be at the Long Beach Walmart, on the sidewalk, vocally demeaning the franchise, and I hopefully will get a lot of workers, most of them minorities, to join in. Should be fun to participate!

Well, good luck Comrade because this little temper tantrum was another epic fail.

Wal-Mart set sales records and by any account I have seen, it was like 2 workers to 20 or so activists.
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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2012, 06:55:06 PM »
I'd like to extend a personal invitation to Ban to come over here and tell us in his words how swimmingly those protests went today.
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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2012, 07:21:18 PM »
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I'd like to extend a personal invitation to Ban to come over here and tell us in his words how swimmingly those protests went today.

I would forgo my Friday night poker game for that, hell I'd even sweeten the deal and offer him the buy-in just to show up. :fuelfire:
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« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2012, 10:54:58 PM »
I hope they don't bow down and go union. The service at my local Wal-Mart is bad enough as it is.
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Re: Neckbeard- Retaliation a Possibility When Strikers Return to Work
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2012, 11:39:32 PM »
Quote from: shadeaux on November 23, 2012, 12:38:34 PM
OS is wetting his pants hoping for some union thuggery.   :rotf: 

Why isn't OS picketing his local Walmart ?   Solidarity neckbeard.   :loser:

 
For that matter, where is 0bama with his marching shoes? Or whatever.
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