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Re: It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing....
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2012, 10:24:31 AM »
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She says they are now making noise like they are going to shut down her plant because Obama won.She has been working over 30+hours of O.T. every week for the last 8 months. She is over worked and tired. Now she doesn't care if they fold. She wants them to close. I don't blame her. She should get severance pay and then she wants to go back to school and get retrained as a chef.
Perhaps the "new" Hostess, might be ready to hire by then.
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Re: It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing....
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2012, 01:45:06 PM »
He's about as smart as my dick, Piggy. Sorry to crash your fantasy...

I think that she's far more acquainted with his dick than with yours - for which you can be thankful.

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Re: It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing....
« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2012, 01:51:06 PM »
He even looks smart.    :lmao:

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I suppose it's my own fault for looking at the thread after you gave a spork alert...but my eyes seriously hurt now.

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Re: It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing....
« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2012, 02:00:47 PM »
DUmmies are from time to time demanding boycotts and national strikes to "Shut the country down"....now here we see who has the power and who can actually shut the country down if they wanted too....rightwing business owners.... :lmao:
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Re: It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing....
« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2012, 08:02:52 PM »
I suppose it's my own fault for looking at the thread after you gave a spork alert...but my eyes seriously hurt now.
I did notice that Calpig had the common decency to crop out her adams apple, in her photo.
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Re: It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing....
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2012, 08:07:30 PM »
DUmmies are from time to time demanding boycotts and national strikes to "Shut the country down"....now here we see who has the power and who can actually shut the country down if they wanted too....rightwing business owners.... :lmao:

Yep!!!! The eeevil business owners done gone and decided that since they built it, they can shut it down just as easily.

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Re: It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing....
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2012, 09:58:49 PM »
I think that she's far more acquainted with his dick than with yours - for which you can be thankful.

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Re: It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing....
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2012, 10:50:15 PM »
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Third, did it cross their little ****ing right wing brains that maybe, just maybe that because of Obama care their employees will be healthier and so not have to call off work, their kids will be happier and healthier and so their parents wont have to call off work because their kids are sick.


Now, it's broken.  Thanks, idiot.

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Re: It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing....
« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2012, 04:35:10 AM »
My business exists to make me (and my stockholders) money. That's it. I don't run it for the benefit of the workers , customers or society. If they gain benefit from working for me or purchasing the goods and services I provide , great -  but don't think for one instant that my business exists for anyone else.

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Re: It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing....
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2012, 05:07:42 AM »


Now, it's broken.  Thanks, idiot.

You didn't break that, WCGreen!!


Oh wait...yeah ya did.

Wait, Obamacare will cure the hangover?  I did not know that.

FWIW in my experience a lot more people abuse sick leave than use sick leave.   Then when they actually need to use it they have none as in "Oh poor Joyce, she has double whatever and used all her sick leave on that trip to Maui last spring, now we have to have a spaghetti supper for her so she can pay the rent on her son's ventilator." 

 
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Re: It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing....
« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2012, 11:36:27 AM »
Really, for conservatives, our goal should be long term. It's high time we started getting back into academia and journalism to right this wrong. I think it's the only way to lay claim to a cultural shift of our own. I personally see many  young people who seem far more conservative then prior generations, but I think for their effectiveness to be felt, unfortunately many boomers are going to have to age out of the game and probably even a lot of Xers too. I don't think it's lost, but I think it's going to be a couple generations out until the kids behind can SEE the results and we raise a generation more thoughtful and introspective then the last.

Yep, all of that is absolutely true.  You have to fix the societal problem before anything else will work.  I think the one thing that has frustrated the Hell out of me for the past 15 years or so have been the "fiscal conservatives" that seem to have held sway over what conservatives should put out as a message.  They told us that we can't win on social issues, concentrate on money instead, and abandon any type of societal morality to the left.  Well, that's been done, and it got us nowhere.  

Anyone who tries to tell me that society and finance are separate issues is a damned fool and one not worth listening to.  By abandoning society to the left, we have allowed societal rot which will now affect us all, left and right, in the financial arena.  You cannot fix money when morality is not a factor - one does affect the other in usually disproportionate manners.

Retaking our communities (city council, school board, etc) is where it all starts but retaking academia is where it matters most.  When the colleges quit cranking out propaganda spewing zombies, we might start to see a turnaround in what passes for "thought" in this country.  Until then, we're just pissing in the wind.

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But only 11 days after voters went to the polls and Republicans came up short, Rubio was speaking to a crowd that had trained its sights squarely on 2016.

In his speech, Rubio weaved together the personal and the economic. He discussed the importance of a stable family life to a stable economy, and how critical the success of the middle class is not just to the country’s financial situation, but also to its place in the world. American exceptionalism, Rubio said, is important to every nation, not just the United States.

“The way to turn our economy around is not by making rich people poorer; it’s by making poor people richer,” Rubio said.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/18/rubio-makes-his-iowa-debut-as-possible-future-of-the-republican-party/

Now, I have neither the time nor inclination to listen to anything he has to say about "common sense immigration reform", but the above bolded is what will win.  Reagan knew it, we know it, that is the message that will win from now on out.  The above bolded in red is the exact type of language that needs to be used:  People, not groups.  It seems to me that instead of looking to gather a group, it has been demonstrated that changing individuals within a group will more likely affect the group as a whole.  The co-op of the democrat party by the marxists is the prime example of how that works.
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Re: It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing....
« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2012, 12:04:33 PM »
Retaking our communities (city council, school board, etc) is where it all starts but retaking academia is where it matters most.  When the colleges quit cranking out propaganda spewing zombies, we might start to see a turnaround in what passes for "thought" in this country.  Until then, we're just pissing in the wind.

Exactly.  For the life of me, I don't understand why more conservatives haven't connected those dots.  I pulled my kids out of public and put them in private, after I got involved with the school district. I could see where that was headed.

Unfortunately, too many conservative parents don't really get to know all the players and curriculum enough until the damage is done. And it's not just done in the schools.  Kids programming, groups like the girl scouts, etc...the progressive agendas are all there, and it can be very subtle. 
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Re: It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing....
« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2012, 12:39:16 PM »
Retaking our communities (city council, school board, etc) is where it all starts but retaking academia is where it matters most.  When the colleges quit cranking out propaganda spewing zombies, we might start to see a turnaround in what passes for "thought" in this country.  Until then, we're just pissing in the wind.

Totally agree. There are a few positive signs in the U.S., it isn't so much a case of launching an assault on the liberal bastions but now there are genuine academic alternatives for reasonable and civilised people. A young lad at my home church went to Christendom College, and both he and his parents have nothing but praise for it - he's gone on to do some post-grad work and is contemplating a career in academia. I know that there are other small Catholic colleges which are doing magnificent work...I would imagine that similar efforts are being made by non-Catholics who share some modicum of sanity - the problem is that they're still small and so can be difficult to find and very difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff, but remember that from small acorns mighty oak trees grow.

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Re: It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing....
« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2012, 01:10:12 PM »
Totally agree. There are a few positive signs in the U.S., it isn't so much a case of launching an assault on the liberal bastions but now there are genuine academic alternatives for reasonable and civilised people. A young lad at my home church went to Christendom College, and both he and his parents have nothing but praise for it - he's gone on to do some post-grad work and is contemplating a career in academia. I know that there are other small Catholic colleges which are doing magnificent work...I would imagine that similar efforts are being made by non-Catholics who share some modicum of sanity - the problem is that they're still small and so can be difficult to find and very difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff, but remember that from small acorns mighty oak trees grow.

Our problem is time.  This needs to be done en masse.  A little here and there isn't going to right this quickly sinking ship. The progressives have been at this a very long time and are well organized. 

There also needs to be alternative and affordable colleges.  What's going on now is way too expensive and the liberals and central planners have a lock on who gets to teach in most universities.  I even wonder about who will get to attend, now that the Government has taken over student funding. 

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Re: It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing....
« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2012, 02:08:02 PM »

Retaking our communities (city council, school board, etc) is where it all starts but retaking academia is where it matters most.  When the colleges quit cranking out propaganda spewing zombies, we might start to see a turnaround in what passes for "thought" in this country.  Until then, we're just pissing in the wind.


Well. Left and Right, most parents raise their kids to be sheltered from any of the messier realities like violence, bloodshed, the fact that some people are just evil SOBs and no amount of psychobabble will change them, or even dirt.  What can we really expect from kids raised in ivory tower except a bunch of stupid Pollyanna thinking, and an educator class that thrives in ivory towers?  All the fears about warping their tender little psyches have turned out generations of kids with psyches that are totally inadequate to deal with the real world as it is.
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Re: It's the right wing's fault that businesses are closing....
« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2012, 02:27:07 PM »
The truly sad part is that the majority of corporations will be fine...union companies like the auto industry, 0bama favored banks and "green" energy companies with a shelf life of five minutes will whether the storm just fine (or be propped up by government funds), though they may lay people off. Small business...the ones we're constantly being told the government wants to help will be forced to close in droves. My BIL, who is one of the best salesman I've ever seen, has tried to hang on but he's now filing for bankruptcy. He'll survive and find some new venture because that's who he is. But they have six kids and they homeschool so there will be some very lean times ahead.

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