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Offline Ballygrl

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Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2012, 07:22:39 PM »
Is this true? Does CA actually give their EC votes to the winner of the national popular vote?

O might not break triple digits...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

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The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) is an agreement among several U.S. states. States passing this interstate compact have agreed to replace their current rules regarding the apportionment of presidential electors with rules guaranteeing the election of the presidential candidate with the most popular votes in all fifty states and Washington, D.C. The agreement is to go into effect only when the participating states that have joined the compact together have an absolute majority in the Electoral College. In the subsequent presidential election, the participating states would award all their electoral votes to the national popular vote winner, who as a result would win the presidency by winning more than half of electoral votes. Until the compact is joined by states with a majority of electoral votes, all states will continue to award their electoral votes in their current manner.

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As of April 2012, the compact has been joined by eight states and the District of Columbia (see map); their 132 combined electoral votes amount to 24.5% of the Electoral College and 49% of the 270 votes needed for the compact to go into effect.

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Two governors who have vetoed NPVIC legislation, Arnold Schwarzenegger of California and Linda Lingle of Hawaii, both in 2007, objected to the compact on the grounds that it could require their states' electoral votes to be awarded to a candidate who did not win statewide. Both states have since enacted laws joining the compact. Supporters of the compact have countered that under the popular vote system, the awarding of electoral votes would be effectively irrelevant; that giving the state's electoral votes to the national winner would be a mere symbolic formality with no political meaning, because the popular vote would have already determined the outcome.
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Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2012, 07:24:20 PM »
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Although supporters of the compact believe the compact would be valid without congressional approval, some critics[specify] maintain that the congressional approval is necessary before the NPVIC can go into effect. Article I, Section 10 of the US Constitution states that

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress . . . enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power.

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled in Virginia v. Tennessee, 148 U.S. 503 (1893), and several more recent cases, that such consent is not necessary except where a compact encroaches on federal supremacy. Every Vote Equal argues that the compact could never encroach upon federal power since the Constitution explicitly gives the power of casting electoral votes to the states, not the federal government. Derek Muller, an opponent of the compact, argues that the NPVIC would nonetheless affect the federal system in such a way that it requires Congressional approval. Regardless, supporters of the NPVIC plan to seek congressional approval if the compact is approved by a sufficient number of states.
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Re: Romney up by 6 in latest Gallup poll
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2012, 07:24:42 PM »
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@TwitchyTeam 7 mins
Left in full meltdown over Gallup poll; 'It's over,' declares Bob Beckel; Others in denial

They said Beckel said on 'The Five' today that if this gallop poll is correction, the election is over and Romney won?

Read more: http://twitchy.com/2012/10/18/left-in-full-meltdown-over-gallup-poll-its-over-declares-bob-beckel-others-in-denial/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter

I think with how long Beckel has been involved in this stuff, I believe him.