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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2012, 11:42:38 AM »
Quote from: Gina on October 05, 2012, 11:30:10 AM
It's so frustrating that he keeps getting away with this crap.  :bawl:

Here's a pretty good reason as to why.  Via Legal Insurrection:

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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2012, 11:48:35 AM »
Quote from: Gina on October 05, 2012, 11:30:10 AM
It's so frustrating that he keeps getting away with this crap.  :bawl:

At one point...I think it was when I was about 3...we had a media that would actually investigate this kind of thing. Lucky for us, the majority of the population no longer believe anything coming from the 0bama administration or the press.

That's the result when you lie too much and those lies are on public display. This last lie, on display in spectacular fashion. The entire middle east explodes, diplomats & Marines killed (Vegas babeeeeee!!!!), weapons not generally brought to spontaneous protests and not an ounce of it is because of a weak president bragging about killing the leader of Al Qaeda but over a video no one has ever seen.

0bama...the boy who cried Bin Laden.

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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2012, 11:53:09 AM »


I like jack Welch ..
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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2012, 11:55:04 AM »
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I like jack Welch ..

Wasn't he one of the boy king's minions in the last election?

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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2012, 11:57:01 AM »
Quote from: delilahmused on October 05, 2012, 11:55:04 AM
Wasn't he one of the boy king's minions in the last election?

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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2012, 11:58:01 AM »
Quote from: Gina on October 05, 2012, 11:30:10 AM
It's so frustrating that he keeps getting away with this crap. :bawl:

Of course they do, they have a complicit media, and a constituency that has no problem being lied to.
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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2012, 12:30:45 PM »
Quote from: Carl on October 05, 2012, 09:55:43 AM
From what I have read this number was arrived at by having the house hold survey magically find roughly 800,000 home based self employed workers.

It is highly doubtful in my mind that could be the case but no idea if there is any oversight to make sure they simply don`t make up numbers.

Oh no it is more than that. It is over 1.1 million people that became consultants or started their own business.

Given: 114,000 new jobs by current employers. We know that 356,000 people left the work force. This cuts the number of unemployed by 470,000, which is about what has been happening for the last 6 months. So how did the total labor force increase by 876,000?

Through the miraculous household survey.  This complete guess indicates that over 1,117,000 (876,000+114,000-356,000) people became consultants or started their own business. I maybe wrong on this by putting in the 114,000 as a positive which would indicate that the household guess poll thinks that 1,231,000 started business or became consultants. either way,  I smell the scent of sweet, sweet unicorn farts.
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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2012, 03:23:09 PM »
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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2012, 03:37:10 PM »
Quote from: Carl on October 05, 2012, 09:55:43 AM
From what I have read this number was arrived at by having the house hold survey magically find roughly 800,000 home based self employed workers.

It is highly doubtful in my mind that could be the case but no idea if there is any oversight to make sure they simply don`t make up numbers.

Yeah it's popular to tell people you are "self employed" when you are really "unemployed", at least that's what some counselors used to tell people.   
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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2012, 04:46:07 PM »
I just read that it was the largest drop in a single month in almost 30 years.  Wow!!!

But didn't he promise  a 5.8 percent unemployment rate?

Interesting enough...  7.8 ties Bushes worse unemployment rate of his entire 8 years.
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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2012, 05:02:01 PM »
Quote from: Maxiest on October 05, 2012, 04:46:07 PM
I just read that it was the largest drop in a single month in almost 30 years.  Wow!!!

But didn't he promise  a 5.8 percent unemployment rate?

Interesting enough...  7.8 ties Bushes worse unemployment rate of his entire 8 years.

Wasn't it closer to 5.4%?
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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2012, 05:03:17 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on October 05, 2012, 05:02:01 PM
Wasn't it closer to 5.4%?

That might have been the average under President Bush, but unemployment jumped after the DemonRats took congress in 2007.
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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2012, 05:07:51 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on October 05, 2012, 05:03:17 PM
That might have been the average under President Bush, but unemployment jumped after the DemonRats took congress in 2007.

Not what I mean.  What I mean is the rate that the Obamessiah stated would be the UE rate this month, if the stimulus was passed.

IOW, another broken promise.
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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2012, 05:13:08 PM »
It's like digging up and disposing of a bunch of corpses out of the cemetery and then bragging about how few people are dying these days.
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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2012, 05:14:04 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on October 05, 2012, 05:07:51 PM
Not what I mean.  What I mean is the rate that the Obamessiah stated would be the UE rate this month, if the stimulus was passed.

IOW, another broken promise.

:doh:  What's another broken promise among fellow communists?
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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2012, 05:16:36 PM »
Quote from: Carl on October 05, 2012, 09:55:43 AM
From what I have read this number was arrived at by having the house hold survey magically find roughly 800,000 home based self employed workers.

It is highly doubful in my mind that could be the case but no idea if there is any oversight to make sure they simply don`t make up numbers.

Tinfoil hat time here:  I think it is all the welfare dummies telling the house survey that they are employed. Wouldn't surprise me if this admin deliberately targeted libs in their survey.   :tinfoil2: :tinfoil2:
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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2012, 07:06:40 PM »
Looks like there is a lot of room for...........error, or "fudging".  :lmao:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.faq.htm

Why are there two monthly measures of employment?
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  the household survey has a more expansive scope than the establishment survey because it includes the self-employed, unpaid family workers, agricultural workers, and private household workers, who are excluded by the establishment survey. 


Are undocumented immigrants counted in the surveys?
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  The household survey does include questions which identify the foreign and native born, but it does not include questions about the legal status of the foreign born. 


Does the official unemployment rate exclude people who have stopped
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Re: 8.2%
« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2012, 07:12:16 PM »
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unpaid family workers,

WTF?  I work, my wife doesn't, but does take care of our dog.  Does that qualify as an unpaid family worker? 
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« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2012, 08:32:21 PM »
Quote from: jukin on October 05, 2012, 12:30:45 PM
Oh no it is more than that. It is over 1.1 million people that became consultants or started their own business.

Given: 114,000 new jobs by current employers. We know that 356,000 people left the work force. This cuts the number of unemployed by 470,000, which is about what has been happening for the last 6 months. So how did the total labor force increase by 876,000?

Through the miraculous household survey.  This complete guess indicates that over 1,117,000 (876,000+114,000-356,000) people became consultants or started their own business. I maybe wrong on this by putting in the 114,000 as a positive which would indicate that the household guess poll thinks that 1,231,000 started business or became consultants. either way,  I smell the scent of sweet, sweet unicorn farts.


Someone is using fuzzy math.
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