ACTION NEEDED: Paul Ryan caught abusing daughter

[dixierose]

I was taught to shoot when I was 10 or so. Some of my fondest memories are of my daddy taking me hunting and fishing with him as a child. I honestly don't think there is a better way for a daddy to bond with a child than by taking him/her hunting and fishing.

BTW...my daddy kept his guns on a gun rack hanging on a wall in the guest bedroom...no lock or safe. Because I knew how to shoot, I respected guns and knew better than to "play" with them. Also, hunting and fishing was what kept food in my family's mouth when I was young. Honestly, if daddy didn't catch it; kill it; or grow it; we didn't eat.

[delilahmused]

Well, then, this must be grandchildren abuse because here's my granddaughter, Liv, when she was 7 helping to pluck a wild turkey we'd just shot.



And Jesse, 5, kicking one of the dead turkeys. Would this be animal abuse?



Of course, their favorite part is watching them flop all over the place after they're shot!

Cindie

[sybilll]

They will defend to their death the right for a SNAP recipient to buy any damn thing they want, including filet mignon, but not a man who teaches his daughter how to actually work to provide it for herself on her own.  Coming from the same people that wouldn't want their young daughters burdened with a baby.  Lazy wusses. The whole lot of them. 

[vesta111]

 

The favorite story Mom tells of her youth comes to mind.

Back way back in 1938 she and her class went  to Chicago on a class trip.      Now she lived in a medium size town outside Boston and none had ever lived on a farm.   All were city kids that had only seen a cow at a distance in a field somewhere.

She tells of their horror when taken to view the Meat packing part of the city and their horror at being close up to the huge dirty smelly cows being herded into the plants.    They were escorted into the plant and they watched as the cows at that time were hit over the head with sledge hammers and dragged to the cutting floors.   The smells and sounds overcame most of her class, the blood and gore was   even too much for the teachers and parents that escorted them.

70 +years later she still remembers  the sight, sounds and smells of that place.   Who in their right mind would take young girls to a place like that ???     She does wonder if the boys in her class were being desensitized for the coming war,    as it was it was the girls that had to drag out the males that had fainted.

Woman become use to blood but males are another kettle of fish.     

[jtyangel]

I seem to recall stories of GIRLS close to and younger than Paul's daughter killing bear, wild hogs, etc.  Matter of fact, a 12-year old girl in Maine shot a moose not long ago.

Oh, and DUmmies, it's not "for fun" you dolts.  These animals have MEAT, which people use to survive.

Following on sparks heals... On more rural areas knowing how to shoot and kill an animal can be life or death. It would be abuse not to teach a child something which could be easily deemed a survival skill because of where they live. Their squeamishness btw I the reason 90% of city/suburban liberals would be daisy pushers themselves if this country went to hell in a hand basket. About the only thing they seem willing to kill is conservatives, babies, and Christians and despite their rabid torrents those aren't te biggest threat to their existence.

[jtyangel]

Why do people who worship Darwin walk around in sackcloth and ashes over the fact they were born with incisor teeth?

Snugs.  I may have to swipe this for face booking. Brilliant concise point:)

[NHSparky]

I already did.

[jtyangel]

I already did.

[Airwolf]

Following on sparks heals... On more rural areas knowing how to shoot and kill an animal can be life or death. It would be abuse not to teach a child something which could be easily deemed a survival skill because of where they live. Their squeamishness btw I the reason 90% of city/suburban liberals would be daisy pushers themselves if this country went to hell in a hand basket. About the only thing they seem willing to kill is conservatives, babies, and Christians and despite their rabid torrents those aren't te biggest threat to their existence.

Remember when one of the Primates at DU was bitching about his poser going out and how they had no way to keep food fresh and that none of his neighbors would let him hook up to their homes? What if that had to go on for a few more weeks or months? what was he going to do then? Hope Barry Big Ears was going to stop by and give him some MRE's or Government cheese?

[franksolich]

Remember when one of the Primates at DU was bitching about his poser going out and how they had no way to keep food fresh and that none of his neighbors would let him hook up to their homes? What if that had to go on for a few more weeks or months? what was he going to do then? Hope Barry Big Ears was going to stop by and give him some MRE's or Government cheese?

That was the sparkling old dude, in one of the wealthiest counties in the country, in Maryland.

He was panic-stricken because his trophy wife was whining about being out of electricity, and desperate for anything to shut her up.

The sparkling old dude tends to get nervous when his trophy wife's upset, as he's afraid she'll leave him.

As the sparkling old dude was in the Navy 1965-1967, I assume he knows how to use a firearm, but there's probably not much wildlife in affluent suburban Maryland.

[Chris_]

As the sparkling old dude was in the Navy 1965-1967, I assume he knows how to use a firearm, but there's probably not much wildlife in affluent suburban Maryland.

There's undergroundpanther, but she probably wouldn't taste very good.

[DumbAss Tanker]

HockeyMom (9,236 posts)

33. ...Blah, blah, blah... Plain meat is gross. If I had to shoot animals for food, I could very, very easily become a vegetarian.

Or just die.  The latter being the far more likely of the two.

[BlueStateSaint]

Or just die.  The latter being the far more likely of the two.

It gets my vote, DAT!

[AprilRazz]

A younger classmate of mine could not understand why people still hunted. "They can just get their meat from the store". She couldn't grasp the fact that venison is much better for you than commercially produced meat and not even a fraction of the cost.
I had many a relative that got through the year on hunted meat.

[Celtic Rose]

A younger classmate of mine could not understand why people still hunted. "They can just get their meat from the store". She couldn't grasp the fact that venison is much better for you than commercially produced meat and not even a fraction of the cost.
I had many a relative that got through the year on hunted meat.

From an animal right's standpoint, I would argue that hunting is actually more humane than most commercially prepared meat.  The animal lives a free life in the wild, until it is killed for food.  Generally, people aren't going to kill more animals than they can reasonably consume, or give to others to consume.  It is basically extreme free range meat.

[Jasonw560]

From an animal right's standpoint, I would argue that hunting is actually more humane than most commercially prepared meat.  The animal lives a free life in the wild, until it is killed for food.  Generally, people aren't going to kill more animals than they can reasonable consume, or give to others to consume.  It is basically extreme free range meat.

You just made Ingrid Neukirk's shit list.

Welcome to the list!!!

[vesta111]

That was the sparkling old dude, in one of the wealthiest counties in the country, in Maryland.

He was panic-stricken because his trophy wife was whining about being out of electricity, and desperate for anything to shut her up.

The sparkling old dude tends to get nervous when his trophy wife's upset, as he's afraid she'll leave him.

As the sparkling old dude was in the Navy 1965-1967, I assume he knows how to use a firearm, but there's probably not much wildlife in affluent suburban Maryland.

You would be surprised at just how much wild life has moved into our city's. Occasionally we have a moose wander in to the area, there are bears, deer and raccoons, fox, you name it  wandering about looking for food or love.  Even a few Fisher Cats that cause 911 calls for a woman screaming in the woods. 

Rutting season is all ways dangerous when the big game come to the towns,   Female Moose have this aversion to mating and will run from a bull into open garages, and in a few cases right into stores with the automatic door openers.    Bulls ain't that smart, they see their reflection in a car or truck window and hump the heck out of the vehicle.

Sick bears are a problem from time to time, as are other rabid critters.    Now I am talking about in populated areas,  don't matter if one lives in State Housing or on the edge of a Golf Course , hungry critters head for where the food is.

Children and adults need to know what to do and not do when facing wild life.  One does not expect to  see these critters down town but I have learned to expect to see deer in the road  early morning and  in the most unlikely places. 

   

[Randy]

Or just die.  The latter being the far more likely of the two.

Preferable too. 

[Duke Nukum]

HockeyMom (9,236 posts)

33. Advice. Don't bring dead Bambi home to your daughters

They will not like seeing that. Even after having it all dressed and cut by a butcher, they won't eat it. Oh, I remember that very well. NONE of us would eat it. Besides my daughters, all I could see in my mind was that bloody mess. It SMELLED to high hell being cooked. Husband had to take the meat back to the butcher to sell it. When he tried to take them shooting with him years later, they cried and screamed, BAMBI at him.
 
Personally, I am not crazy about meat to begin with. A nice crunchy salad tastes better to me than a steak. The only way I can eat steak, or other meat, is to disguise the taste of the meat with sauces and spices. Plain meat is gross. If I had to shoot animals for food, I could very, very easily become a vegetarian.

Personally, I always wished there was mouse flavored ice cream so that after I took my cat to the vet I could have rewarded her.

As for you, if you were left to your wits, you might be able to manage on some nice, crunchy tree bark, but I doubt it.

[Chris_]

Personally, I am not crazy about meat to begin with. A nice crunchy salad tastes better to me than a steak.

You gotta be kidding.

[Celtic Rose]

Or just die.  The latter being the far more likely of the two.

There is a reason that there are no traditionally vegan cultures on earth, people begin to get serious nutritional deficiencies with a vegan diet without additional supplementation.  There was even research that B12 deficiencies became significantly more common in India once stricter food safety laws were passed.  Prior to passing the new standards, there was sufficient animal protein (largely insect based) in vegetarian food staples to provide the necessary nutrients.  Once those weren't there, people became deficient quickly.