A thread about Israel

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Poll_Blind (21,342 posts)

Netanyahu urges international "red lines" to stop Iran
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Source: REUTERS

(Reuters) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu urged world powers on Sunday to set a "clear red line" for Tehran's atomic program that would convince Iran they were determined to prevent it from obtaining nuclear arms.

Netanyahu's remarks suggested a growing impatience with Israel's main ally, the United States, and other countries that have been pressing him to give diplomacy and sanctions more time to work and hold off on any go-it-alone strike on Iran. Recent heightened Israeli rhetoric has stoked speculation that Israel might attack Iran before the U.S. elections in November, believing that President Barack Obama would give it military help and not risk alienating pro-Israeli voters.

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General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the U.S. joint chiefs of staff, has suggested Washington would not be drawn into conflict with Iran should Israel attack.

"I don't want to be complicit if they choose to do it," Britain's Guardian newspaper quoted him on Friday as saying.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/02/us-iran-israel-idUSBRE88102R20120902


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The second bolded sentence, above. Is there any other way to read it than:

"Benjamin Netanyahu may attempt to hold President Obama's chances of re-election hostage by starting an unnecessary war at a time which might politically force our President to go along with it."


I'm asking this seriously: How do you interpret that second bolded sentence in the article?

I've seen America convinced into supporting a war. I've seen American lied into supporting a war, lord knows. But I don't recall having lived long enough to see our government politically extorted into supporting a war.

That would be a new one on me.

And if that concept isn't concerning enough, it is almost unprecedented for the chairman of the U.S. joint chiefs of staff to go on record not once but twice to indicate he did not want to be "complicit" in such an attack at this time. His choice of words is equally telling. Dictionary.com defines "complicit" as "Involved with others in an illegal activity or wrongdoing."

What the ****, exactly, is going on here?

PB

byeya (475 posts)
1. A ham handed attempt to intimidate the President of the USA is how I read it.

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Good for Obama for sending Gen Dempsey to make that speech that the Israeli's should understand.

Fuddnik (3,411 posts)
2. Tell Nut N Yahoo ALL aid is suspended tomorrow.

And WE'll tell THEM how to get it back.

nanabugg (1,717 posts)
5. I hope Obama thinks about the American public over the pro-Israeli voters. If not, he deserves to

lose and I would rather he put America first and lose than put the Israeli government first at the risk of more American lives and resources.

L0oniX (14,142 posts)
12. What About Israel’s Nuclear Weapons?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32341.htm

sulphurdunn (2,672 posts)
13. Netanyahu

is a demented, war mongering psychopath who cares no more for the people of Israel than for the people of Iran or the United States. He may be even crazier than his counterpart in North Korea and is absolutely the most dangerous political leader on the planet today. He should be medicated and placed in an institution where he can be cared for and not allowed to harm himself or others.

lovuian (17,930 posts)
14. The Dempsey assasination attempt failed in Afghanistan

right after he told Netanhu "I don't want to be complicit if they choose to do it"

I think that had to tick off the US Military trying to kill Dempsey

on point (682 posts)
16. Actually it is Israel that needs the redlines to stop it from war crimes and crimes against humanity

bananas (18,557 posts)
17. This is similar to the 1980 election, when the Republicans made a deal with Iran

The Republicans made a deal with Iran to hold the hostages to defeat Carter.

leveymg (23,149 posts)
20. And the Israelis played nuclear blackmail with Nixon to resupply them in '73. Go figure.

Neither side exactly has a spotless record of trustworthiness and fair-play. With friends and enemies like these, trust no one.

defacto7 (136 posts)
23. Don't forget the fundamentalists lurking in the background...

who actually WANT a nuclear war... WWIII, Armageddon if you please. These are the teabaggers, the fanatics, Romney... many of the radio talk show right wing hosts... They preach the bringing on of the second coming of Christ... Jesus comes in the clouds and saves all believers, destroys all the sinners and there is a thousand years of.... BULL SHIT.

G.W. was visited by Billy Graham in the White House several times, G.W. came to Salt Lake City to visit the 12 presidents and the profit of the Mormon Church... This religious stuff has a huge hand in the decisions of politicians whether they believe in what they do or just use and are used by the raving religious crazies.

Nutinyahoo is crazy and a liar and a murderer. I have no idea what his motives are but rest assured, he will use any crazy religious imbecile and ignorant politician he can get, to do whatever the hell it is he wants.

Personally, I also think he is a racist to the hilt.

davidpdx (5,315 posts)
32. Israel has been trying to goat us into starting a war with Iran for awhile now

It appears they want to start a war, then pull us into it so we can take the blame. I hope Obama continues to stand tough and tell them they are on their own if they want war.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014216285

[DumbAss Tanker]

Welcome to 1938, Mr. Prime Minister.  And how are things in little Czechoslovakia-on-the-Med these days?

 

[FiddyBeowulf]

Welcome to 1938, Mr. Prime Minister.  And how are things in little Czechoslovakia-on-the-Med these days?

 

Relax. President Ladies Tees has assured us that we will have peace in our time.

[Airwolf]

Yes please go ahead with your not to bright idea of threatening Israel with pulling all support. Nothing would probably drive the Jewish vote to the Republican side faster except maybe putting I'madinnerjacket on the 2016  Democratic Presidential ticket.

[GOBUCKS]

It is astounding that the Jewish vote in 2008, and likely again in 2012, was over 70% in favor of the godless, pro-Palestinian, anti-business, anti-Semite democrat party.

They are such smart people, yet have such fear of a Republican party supported by god-fearing, Christian people.


They should simply stay home on election day.

[Carl]

It is astounding that the Jewish vote in 2008, and likely again in 2012, was over 70% in favor of the godless, pro-Palestinian, anti-business, anti-Semite democrat party.

They are such smart people, yet have such fear of a Republican party supported by god-fearing, Christian people.


They should simply stay home on election day.

The dem party would be happy to rid the world of Israel tomorrow if for no other reason its existence indicates that Biblical prophesy is true.