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Term Life Insurance
« on: August 20, 2012, 09:52:11 AM »
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I am wanting to get term life insurance for me and hubby.  Can anyone help me out with tips and what not to do?

I am 38 and hubby is 48.  We are both in good health.  I have minor blood pressure issues that I take meds with since 08. 






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Re: Term Life Insurance
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2012, 10:10:00 AM »
It's a very standardized product, and inexpensive.  Just get three or four different quotes for comparable benefits, you should be fine.  If you are eligible at work, the group plans are generally decent deals too, especially for the over-40 crowd, as the group plans usually level out the age over the group instead of charging based on the individual worker-beneficiary's own age.

Thing is, term insurance is cheaper and larger payouts for the younger and less actuarilly-likely you are to die.  The older you get, the more it costs and the less it provides...and that is fine, as long as you complement it with a savings/investment/retirement plan in an integrated approach of some kind.  Basically what term life does is to make up for all your future lost income to the family if you check out prematurely, so the less of your earning life is ahead of you, the less you should need from it.  Unfortunately a lot of people look at life insurance as some kind of death lotto rather than just an element in a total plan that has a changing place in that plan over the course of your life. 

Life insurance is NOT a savings or investment tool itself, agents will try to sell you 'Whole life' or 'Universal life' policies using that hook, but the return on investment for them sucks ass so bad that it usually nets out deep in the negative even without considering the opportunity cost of what else you could have done with the huge premiums that policies other than term ones require.  The agents make a shitload more money from selling them than they do from selling term policies, so their POV is highly biased on it.  Don't believe a word of what they say about the value of whole or universal life as investment or savings tools.
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Re: Term Life Insurance
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2012, 10:18:13 AM »
Being my age should I or can I get a policy for 30 or even 40 years?  is that smart to do or are they only 20?







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Re: Term Life Insurance
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2012, 10:28:01 AM »
Why would you want a life insurance policy in retirement, except maybe to cover funeral expenses.

The older you get the more the premiums will be, you may want to look at a 10 yr term policy. Then if the policy permits shortly before expiration of the 10 yr term bump it up to a 20 yr term .
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Re: Term Life Insurance
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2012, 10:33:28 AM »
Why would you want a life insurance policy in retirement, except maybe to cover funeral expenses.

The older you get the more the premiums will be, you may want to look at a 10 yr term policy. Then if the policy permits shortly before expiration of the 10 yr term bump it up to a 20 yr term .

I "thought" that if I got it now the premium would be stuck at one rate and I could keep it for that long.  I want a policy to give to my kids if/when I die.






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Re: Term Life Insurance
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2012, 10:34:46 AM »
Being my age should I or can I get a policy for 30 or even 40 years?  is that smart to do or are they only 20?



If what you want is 'level term' (Constant premium and constant payout) or 'decreasing term,' (Constant premium but payout decreases over age for the reasons I described, so obviously the cheaper of the two) I'm not sure how long they'll write one for, in my limited experience with them they're mostly 10 or 20 years but then I'm a good bit older than you.  The cheapest form of course is the annual term policy, dirt cheap when you're young, really, but you're approaching the upper end of the ages for which insurers prefer to write those.  The companies generally want you to be off the books by 65 or 70, so you probably won't find anyone who'll write one past one of those two ages.
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Re: Term Life Insurance
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2012, 11:40:58 PM »
It's a very standardized product, and inexpensive.  Just get three or four different quotes for comparable benefits, you should be fine.  If you are eligible at work, the group plans are generally decent deals too, especially for the over-40 crowd, as the group plans usually level out the age over the group instead of charging based on the individual worker-beneficiary's own age.

Thing is, term insurance is cheaper and larger payouts for the younger and less actuarilly-likely you are to die.  The older you get, the more it costs and the less it provides...and that is fine, as long as you complement it with a savings/investment/retirement plan in an integrated approach of some kind.  Basically what term life does is to make up for all your future lost income to the family if you check out prematurely, so the less of your earning life is ahead of you, the less you should need from it.  Unfortunately a lot of people look at life insurance as some kind of death lotto rather than just an element in a total plan that has a changing place in that plan over the course of your life.  

Life insurance is NOT a savings or investment tool itself, agents will try to sell you 'Whole life' or 'Universal life' policies using that hook, but the return on investment for them sucks ass so bad that it usually nets out deep in the negative even without considering the opportunity cost of what else you could have done with the huge premiums that policies other than term ones require.  The agents make a shitload more money from selling them than they do from selling term policies, so their POV is highly biased on it.  Don't believe a word of what they say about the value of whole or universal life as investment or savings tools.

Mr. Tanker summed it up.

The key is getting the insurance when you are young and free of health problems.

If I die or become terminal, those that are there for me during my last days won't be broke from missing work or taking care of me. I am very well insured.
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Re: Term Life Insurance
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2012, 06:37:20 AM »
Ok, what I want is if me or hubby die the other gets (or the kids) get a nice sum of money.  I thought term life was you buy it now, it's like 48 a month for me now and I could get it for 20 years and it would stay that price.  Am I not getting this?






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Re: Term Life Insurance
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2012, 11:36:49 AM »
Ok, what I want is if me or hubby die the other gets (or the kids) get a nice sum of money.  I thought term life was you buy it now, it's like 48 a month for me now and I could get it for 20 years and it would stay that price.  Am I not getting this?

Depends on the policy. Some plans will go up in price as you get older. But it's easier to get most plans when you are still young & healthy.

Depending on the amount of coverage you both might need a physical for the policy.

I know, it's as clear as mud. Talk to a couple agents and shop around. Start with who you have your home or auto insurance with.

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Re: Term Life Insurance
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2012, 11:40:42 AM »
Initially life insurance has the ability to create an estate. As you get to the mid life stage, it is more to protect your estate. If you did a lot right, towards the end, your estate will be the desired size and shape, and you will obviate the need for any more life insurance.
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Re: Term Life Insurance
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2012, 12:39:37 PM »
Ok, what I want is if me or hubby die the other gets (or the kids) get a nice sum of money.  I thought term life was you buy it now, it's like 48 a month for me now and I could get it for 20 years and it would stay that price.  Am I not getting this?

That's fine if you no longer require insurance after the 20 yr term.  The reason I mentioned a 10 yr term then renew for twenty is because the premium to start coverage is higher the older you are. the total premium payout for a 10 -20 terms should be lower than a 20 -10 terms.  Some insurance companies also give a break if you are currently covered under one of their policies.
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Re: Term Life Insurance
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2012, 01:16:47 PM »
told hubby that he is worth a million to me, he said "yeh, dead"   :rofl:






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Re: Term Life Insurance
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2012, 01:17:03 PM »
gonna check out Dave Ramsey.






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Re: Term Life Insurance
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2012, 02:36:42 PM »
gonna check out Dave Ramsey.
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Re: Term Life Insurance
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2012, 04:16:35 PM »
gonna check out Dave Ramsey.

His point of view on term life insurance is on the money.  I don't agree with everything he says, and it doesn't necessarily fit every household, but you won't go wrong taking his advice and following his plan.
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Re: Term Life Insurance
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2012, 04:17:34 PM »
A term life insurance for between 10 and 12 years is good. After that you can renew it. If the insurance company tries to sell you whole life, don't fall for it. The only advantage of whole life is that you can take a loan out on it if needed. Other than that, it is not worth the time because it can be expensive.

As far as companies? Prudential, ING and MetLife are good ones to look at.