Vlada Mitty tells us where we are

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021157914

Oh my.

nadinbrzezinski (107,824 posts)

The radical right has taken over a party.

Now here is the trick for democrats and left leaning ndependents.

Find the moderate republicans and create coalitions to elect more democrats to office. Or moderate repubs when no democrat is in the race.

Local judge race is a perfect example. It's supposed to be non partisan but it is...I confess I will vote for a republican. (What?)

Yup, the democrat did not make it out of the primaries...so we have a moderate republican, or the tea party crazy, who has been censured for doing a few questionable things (ethically) while in office.

But that is where we are.

And since I am a decline to state voter, I expect all kinds of crap soon in my mailbox.

The campfire's just lit; no primitives at it yet.

But I'll keep my eye on it, for further developments.

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The oblate spheroid finally has an audience:

HopeHoops (38,085 posts)

1. The more they head to the right, the better it is for us.

au contraire, the more the Democrats head to the left, the better it is for us.

nadinbrzezinski (107,826 posts)

2. Yeah and talking to this gentleman

He's a republican because dad was one...and the tea party and radicalism, has made this pretty apolitical man have a political wake up call... They keep going right, this gentleman, and many like him...will leave the GOP.

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Text provided in case one thinks it's a jumping frog.

madinmaryland (49,432 posts)

3. Yeah. Voting rules can be really ****ed up, which gives you a choice between a nut job and a less of a nut job.

That is the result of 30 years of the reaganite assault on democracy.

nadinbrzezinski (107,826 posts)

4. This is prop 14 in action

Has zero to do with Reagan. This was passed by Californians, and I suspect it will not work as expected. It's an effort to curb radicals on both sides.

And regardless, I would not call a moderate repub a nut job, an endangered species yes, but not a nut job.

For the record, there are races where two democrats made it to the ballot from the primaries. One case locally where an occupier made it to the ballot.

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tama (5,657 posts)

6. It ain't stretching

The more they head to the right, the more center moves to the right, and the more the left moves to the right.

The party politics is a falangue.

And those who refuse to be part of that game stop voting, some start occupy movements, ecocommunities etc. but most just drop out, stop following party politics and keep on living.

Telly Savalas (9,784 posts)

8. No it's not

1. When they win (and 2010 provides evidence that they can still win even while pushing hard in the wingnut direction) the policies they implement are even worse.

2. The void they leave in the not-so-far right gets filled by Democrats who's big tent starts posting more stakes in conservative terrain. It's difficult to argue that this hasn't happened over the last 40 years.

3. It's undemocratic. So long as one of the two major parties is completely out of touch, it means that any sane voter only has one potential candidate to vote for in each contest. The absence of a legitimate choice undermines democracy.

The GOP may have short-term defeats when they overstep their bounds, but it's their willingness to push the envelope ideologically that has led to the disasterous trend to the Right we've seen over the last 35 years.

freshwest (17,272 posts)

5. My only difference with your assessment is that the same actors who were involved with...

The Business Coup are still running the GOP as they always have. We are rehashing the Thirties right now and can't escape it. The outcome will depend on whether the public can withstand the fascist coup that the GOP represents.

We've been battered with Cold War propaganda to make sure we never looked at anything other than 'all-Murikan' Christianity and Capitalism, then years of right wing religion, and complete media domination by these same people.

Wipe all the talking points, brand names and lipstick off the GOpig and there it is underneath, as it always was. I feel no reason to give these guys a free pass or give this pig a kiss. JMHO.

nadinbrzezinski (107,827 posts)

7. And in the meantime

They are leaving many of their own behind.

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freshwest (17,276 posts)

9. Well, it is the time of revealing the truth, has to happen. SHTF, outcome uncertain.

VladaMitty (107,830 posts)

10. Yeah but the problem with many democrats and republicans and this is a problem at the local level, is that they see the other not as fellow Americans, but as the enemy.

It used to be a minority view, in the fringes of both parties. Well, when you are dealing with potholes and the sewage system that is a problem. Why many of these local offices are supposed to be non-partisan. But the war has spread to your local city council, and your local boards.

That is a problem. When you see the other at all levels at the enemy, sooner or later you will decide you need to get rid of the enemy... that is not a healthy place to be.

Suffice it to say, at this point I expect it, but that is another story.

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