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Offline FaC

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The Government Built That - with a grain of truth that will not stand
« on: August 13, 2012, 12:04:51 PM »
I am not sure if this counts as a bouncy or is just whinging to counter the "you did not build that" whoopsie...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021117454

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(Warning Pic Heavy) WWII B17 survival story
I am pretty sure the govt built this plane and not rich dudes pursuing the latest deferrment scams for themselves and their children.

after which a fairly interesting story about a damaged B-17 that brought the crew back to base during WWII...

The thread wanders around about relatives that were in the war and a debate around if the original story was embellished any with some speculation about where the plane actually managed to land. There is a cool note and a bunch of neat pictures in the thread.

We have a small jewel here:

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25. Built by women.

Followed by a Rosie the Riveter poster

Then somebody has the unmitigated gall to add the truth!

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30. Um...Bad Example .... But great aircraft

Actually, the prototype B17 (I forget it's experimental designation number ) was built by Boeing at Boeing's own expense and far surpassed the design parameters set out by the government.

Government thought they knew what they wanted, Boeing provided what was really needed.
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Re: The Government Built That - with a grain of truth that will not stand
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2012, 12:10:15 PM »
I'll take "swerving into the truth" for $1000, Alex.

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30. Um...Bad Example .... But great aircraft

Actually, the prototype B17 (I forget it's experimental designation number ) was built by Boeing at Boeing's own expense and far surpassed the design parameters set out by the government.

Government thought they knew what they wanted, Boeing provided what was really needed.

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Re: The Government Built That - with a grain of truth that will not stand
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2012, 12:13:14 PM »
Great find!  That last comment was the threadkiller. 
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Re: The Government Built That - with a grain of truth that will not stand
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2012, 04:07:41 PM »
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Government thought they knew what they wanted, Boeing provided what was really needed.


Oh man, now that's a B/S.


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Re: The Government Built That - with a grain of truth that will not stand
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2012, 05:57:07 PM »
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30. Um...Bad Example .... But great aircraft

Actually, the prototype B17 (I forget it's experimental designation number ) was built by Boeing at Boeing's own expense and far surpassed the design parameters set out by the government.

Government thought they knew what they wanted, Boeing provided what was really needed.

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Re: The Government Built That - with a grain of truth that will not stand
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2012, 06:02:01 PM »
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30. Um...Bad Example .... But great aircraft

Actually, the prototype B17 (I forget it's experimental designation number ) was built by Boeing at Boeing's own expense and far surpassed the design parameters set out by the government.

Government thought they knew what they wanted, Boeing provided what was really needed.

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I bet he gets TS'd .... They hate hearing the truth over there .......
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Re: The Government Built That - with a grain of truth that will not stand
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2012, 06:09:54 PM »
What makes the idiots think "the government" has plants that build aircraft?

Where would "the government" get the raw materials?

Dear DUmmies:  The government adds nothing.  It only takes away.
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Re: The Government Built That - with a grain of truth that will not stand
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2012, 06:25:57 PM »
Quote from: Undies on August 13, 2012, 06:09:54 PM
Dear DUmmies:  The government adds nothing.  It only takes away.

Not entirely true.  Government adds red tape.
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Re: The Government Built That - with a grain of truth that will not stand
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2012, 06:28:31 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on August 13, 2012, 06:25:57 PM
Not entirely true.  Government adds red tape.

Yes, but that takes away from productivity.
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Re: The Government Built That - with a grain of truth that will not stand
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2012, 06:39:50 PM »
Quote from: Undies on August 13, 2012, 06:28:31 PM
Yes, but that takes away from productivity.

But, it does add something.  I didn't say, and you didn't stipulate, that whatever government added had to be positive. :tongue:

(I know, semantics schemantics.)
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Re: The Government Built That - with a grain of truth that will not stand
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2012, 06:45:04 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on August 13, 2012, 06:39:50 PM
But, it does add something.  I didn't say, and you didn't stipulate, that whatever government added had to be positive. :tongue:

(I know, semantics schemantics.)

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