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Offline Kyle Ricky

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I didn't see one of these on here, so I thought I would start one.

Rush was just saying something that hit me, something I didn't think of. He said that obama thinks that Romney will be picking General Petraeus as his VP pick? Romney has met with him a couple of times now.

You all know that I would love to see Allen West as his choice. But if he would choose Petraeus, obama would surely go down in flames. If there is anyone who is more qualified than obama and crazy joe combined, it is him. Wow.

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Romney VP Pick: David Petraeus Could Be the Game Changer of Election 2012.

If Romney wanted to go completely left field, he could pick former four-star general and current CIA Director David Petraeus. One of the most celebrated generals in modern history, he is considered a hero by many for turning around the Iraq war. He'd also bring oodles of military and foreign policy experience to the Romney campaign. While the selection of Petraeus might tick off a few doves, it could also provide reassurance to some people that might be wary of the hawkish Governor. Petraeus would be seen as a check, a top advisor for any military situation. There is nothing that the man hasn’t seen.

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Read more: http://www.policymic.com/articles/12252/romney-vp-pick-david-petraeus-could-be-the-game-changer-of-election-2012

Oh My God! That would be, in my opinion, one of the best picks in years. Wow..

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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2012, 01:30:21 PM »
The problem with high ranking military types is that they have compromised their principals so much to get those stars, they often can't recover them.  Colin Powell, case in point.

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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2012, 01:41:02 PM »
The problem with high ranking military types is that they have compromised their principals so much to get those stars, they often can't recover them.  Colin Powell, case in point.

That may be the case, but Generals have proven to be good Presidents. Example; Eisenhower.

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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2012, 06:20:16 PM »
That may be the case, but Generals have proven to be good Presidents. Example; Eisenhower.

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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2012, 08:14:45 PM »
That may be the case, but Generals have proven to be good Presidents. Example; Eisenhower.

There have been some pretty awful and some very forgetable presidents that were generals.

Like Harrison, Taylor, Pierce, Johnson, Hayes, Garfield, Arthur, and Harrison

Being a general doesn't automatically make a good president.
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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2012, 08:16:25 PM »
There have been some pretty awful and some very forgetable presidents that were generals.
Harrison, Taylor, Pierce, Johnson, Hayes, Garfield, Arthur, and Harrison

I would add Grant from Crazy Horse's list.

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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2012, 09:14:53 PM »
There have been some pretty awful and some very forgetable presidents that were generals.

Like Harrison, Taylor, Pierce, Johnson, Hayes, Garfield, Arthur, and Harrison

Being a general doesn't automatically make a good president.

Which ones on that list were Democrats? Eisenhower was a Republican. Some say he is the last true Republican Presidents we had.

Some could argue that Reagan was, but I feel Reagan was a true conservative. A great one also..

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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2012, 09:39:14 PM »
Which ones on that list were Democrats? Eisenhower was a Republican. Some say he is the last true Republican Presidents we had.

Some could argue that Reagan was, but I feel Reagan was a true conservative. A great one also..

Only Pierce was a democrat. But thinking in terms of democrat and republican now you can't apply those terms to the older presidents. It was only recently where the GOP became the exclusive party of conservatives.
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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2012, 09:41:26 PM »
Only Pierce was a democrat. But thinking in terms of democrat and republican now you can't apply those terms to the older presidents. It was only recently where the GOP became the exclusive party of conservatives.

Yeah, There are still some democratic conservatives as well. I think they call them 'Blue Dogs' now?

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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2012, 10:08:15 PM »
Yeah, There are still some democratic conservatives as well. I think they call them 'Blue Dogs' now?

They aren't really conservative anymore though, the most conservative blue dog congressman has a more liberal voting record than the most "liberal" republican. The extreme conservatives out there today would have hated a republican like Eisenhower.
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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2012, 10:22:07 PM »
They aren't really conservative anymore though, the most conservative blue dog congressman has a more liberal voting record than the most "liberal" republican. The extreme conservatives out there today would have hated a republican like Eisenhower.

I am sure they probably would have. They might hate Reagan as well. But we will never know. Either way, both Reagan and Eisenhower were pretty good Presidents.

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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2012, 10:34:08 PM »
I am sure they probably would have. They might hate Reagan as well. But we will never know. Either way, both Reagan and Eisenhower were pretty good Presidents.

That they were but a this Eisenhower quote would make him the scourge of the GOP today and that's kinda sad.

“People talk about the middle of the road as though it were unacceptable. Actually, all human problems, excepting morals, come into the gray areas. Things are not all black and white. There have to be compromises. The middle of the road is all of the usable surface. The extremes, right and left, are in the gutters.”
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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2012, 10:46:02 PM »
That they were but a this Eisenhower quote would make him the scourge of the GOP today and that's kinda sad.

“People talk about the middle of the road as though it were unacceptable. Actually, all human problems, excepting morals, come into the gray areas. Things are not all black and white. There have to be compromises. The middle of the road is all of the usable surface. The extremes, right and left, are in the gutters.”

You know, it is funny that you would post that quote from him. That quote right there is the reason I became an independent. There is always room for compromise. The problems comes from no one wanting to bend. There is no truer statement than that.

I bet today, he would be an independent himself.

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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2012, 08:44:45 PM »
Kimberly Gilfoyle and Eric Bolling were on Hannity tonight saying they think the VP pick will be Paul Ryan.

So, who, did we hear this week?

General Petraeus, Rob Portman, and now Ryan. I came to conclusion of one thing and one thing only. That is that no one anything. This is all nothing but speculation.

I still say he has to pick either Allen West or Gen. Pretreaus. Of course the way it is looking now, It wouldn't surprise me if they weren't picked. I am just worried that Romney will pick an idiot, and CAN NOT DO THAT!

The names thrown out there so far: Rice, Portman, Pretreaus, Walker, Christie, Pawlenty, Santorum, West, Rubio, and even Palin.
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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2012, 09:14:20 PM »
Kimberly Gilfoyle and Eric Bolling were on Hannity tonight saying they think the VP pick will be Paul Ryan.

So, who, did we hear this week?

General Petraeus, Rob Portman, and now Ryan. I came to conclusion of one thing and one thing only. That is that no one anything. This is all nothing but speculation.

I still say he has to pick either Allen West or Gen. Pretreaus. Of course the way it is looking now, It wouldn't surprise me if they weren't picked. I am just worried that Romney will pick an idiot, and CAN NOT DO THAT!

The names thrown out there so far: Rice, Portman, Pretreaus, Walker, Christie, Pawlenty, Santorum, West, Rubio, and even Palin.

There are a few more names than that out there. Bush, Jindal, Haley, Martinez, McDonnell, and Ayotte to name a few. But looking at the odds right now it's probably 40% for Portman 20% Ryan 20% Pawlenty 10% Rubio 10% everyone else
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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2012, 09:31:26 PM »
There are a few more names than that out there. Bush, Jindal, Haley, Martinez, McDonnell, and Ayotte to name a few. But looking at the odds right now it's probably 40% for Portman 20% Ryan 20% Pawlenty 10% Rubio 10% everyone else

Or it could be someone completely out of left right field, someone flying under the radar, but still known nationally.   How many people were talking about Sarah Palin before she was named?

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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2012, 10:11:36 PM »
Or it could be someone completely out of left right field, someone flying under the radar, but still known nationally.   How many people were talking about Sarah Palin before she was named?

Who out of left field could it be? Jiuliani? Tom Ridge? I wouldn't mind Ridge, then I am biased also.

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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2012, 10:15:16 PM »
Portman seems like another Milquetoast weenie. But I could be wrong.
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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2012, 10:22:34 PM »
Who out of left field could it be? Jiuliani? Tom Ridge? I wouldn't mind Ridge, then I am biased also.

I have no idea, but that is why I said someone under the radar.

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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2012, 10:54:50 PM »
I have no idea, but that is why I said someone under the radar.

I can see it happening. It would shake things up, that is for sure.

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Re: Romney VP thread. Who do you think it will be - Gen. Petraeus?
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2012, 03:28:27 AM »
What a dream...it's PAUL RYAN!!

Absolutely the best pick Romney could have made. Paul Ryan is young, highly experienced, bold, conservative, and is probably as good a debater this side of Newt Gingrich. If Romney is successful (actually, WHEN; I cannot stomach the consequences to this country if he fails), Paul Ryan will be the frontrunner for the 2020 ticket, and at age 50, will be well situated to take this country through the quarter century mark.

Just like John McCain made the pick that energized the base in 2008, Romney made the pick that needed to be made. With Alan West as the Speaker by 2014, and hopefully Jim DeMint over Mitch McConnel in a newly-conservativised majority in the Senate, it will be game over for not only the federal dems, but dems in states like NY, California, and Illinois.

I am beginning to come around for Romney, but let's see the interaction between Ryan and Romney, which I think should be good. I see Romney moving right far more likely than Ryan moving left.
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