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Offline dixierose

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Stars Earn Stripes
« on: August 13, 2012, 09:02:39 PM »
Who watched this tonight? I enjoyed it, and the stars really surprised me; especially Nick Laceay. It's hosted by Wesley Clark, and the stars are trained by members of the Armed Forces Dean Cain was very impressed by Todd Palin...called him "Rambo" :-)

I'll definitely tune in until MNF starts...then I'll DVR it or catch the west coast replay (I have NY and LA network feeds on DirecTV).
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2012, 11:12:16 AM »
Sorry I can't stand Wesley Clark as a soldier or a human being. He was so bad at his job Bill Clinton removed him from his job in Europe for almost starting WWIII with the Russians.
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2012, 11:14:07 AM »
Sorry, but I'd rather punch myself in the balls than watch that crap.
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2012, 01:55:40 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on August 14, 2012, 11:14:07 AM
Sorry, but I'd rather punch myself in the balls than watch that crap.


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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2012, 01:58:57 PM »
Weaselly Clark ? The guy is the biggest weasel to ever make command grade.
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2012, 02:20:21 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on August 14, 2012, 11:14:07 AM
Sorry, but I'd rather punch myself in the balls than watch that crap.

Okay..I guess I'm way off base. I thought this show was a tribute to the troops...but I haven't served so I don't have your perception (not sure if that's the right word). Why do you (and the other Vets who have replied) think it's crap? Is this something that I shouldn't be supporting? I don't want to support anything that's insulting to our troops...
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2012, 02:24:01 PM »
Quote from: dixierose on August 14, 2012, 02:20:21 PM
Okay..I guess I'm way off base. I thought this show was a tribute to the troops...but I haven't served so I don't have your perception (not sure if that's the right word). Why do you (and the other Vets who have replied) think it's crap? Is this something that I shouldn't be supporting? I don't want to support anything that's insulting to our troops...

I haven't seen it but in general I don't watch any "reality/talent" type shows.
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2012, 02:56:35 PM »
Quote from: dixierose on August 14, 2012, 02:20:21 PM
Okay..I guess I'm way off base. I thought this show was a tribute to the troops...but I haven't served so I don't have your perception (not sure if that's the right word). Why do you (and the other Vets who have replied) think it's crap? Is this something that I shouldn't be supporting? I don't want to support anything that's insulting to our troops...

The show itself isn't the problem because to the average person they don't get to see what it is the Military does unless they are invited on the base to see something put on like the "101st Airborne Week of the Eagles" where it is a week long celebration of who and what the 101st is. The same with Air shows at Air Force and Navy Bases. What I and some others have a problem with is Wesley Clark being the host. For a General in the US Army his record isn't the most sterling and the fact that NBC thought he was the best person to get to host their show to me smells of their contempt for the troops. He was never know to care about the troops and IF I'm correct he was directly responsible for ending a few careers over petty things as well as the thing I mentioned above about how he was responsible for almost starting a war with the Russians while in Yugoslavia.
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2012, 04:52:08 PM »
Thanks, Airwolf, for clearing that up for me. I was only aware that Wesley Clark was a retired general; I didn't really know anything else about him. Thanks for the info.
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2012, 05:09:55 PM »
Quote from: dixierose on August 14, 2012, 02:20:21 PM
Okay..I guess I'm way off base. I thought this show was a tribute to the troops...but I haven't served so I don't have your perception (not sure if that's the right word). Why do you (and the other Vets who have replied) think it's crap? Is this something that I shouldn't be supporting? I don't want to support anything that's insulting to our troops...


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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2012, 11:47:15 AM »
While I didn't care for Clark, the show was, well, meh. They had a rough scenario to complete, but, anybody who has been in the military should have been able to do most of that stuff. I doubt that I will watch it again unless there simply isn't anything else on TV. Todd Palin did stick out as a go-getter. Out of all of the "stars", he impressed me the most.
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2012, 03:10:47 PM »


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Nobel Peace Prize winners protest NBC's 'Stars Earn Stripes'

Yet another one of NBC's programming decisions is being criticized, but this one doesn't have anything to do with the Olympics.

The network's new reality series featuring celebrities competing in military-esque challenges, "Stars Earn Stripes," is receiving backlash from nine Nobel Peace Prize Laureates, including Archbishop Desmond Tutu.


In an open letter to the Chairman of NBC Entertainment, Robert Greenblatt, as well as members of the "Stars Earn Stripes" production team, the nine laureates accuse NBC of "glorifying" war and military combat by presenting military training in the same fashion as one would present an athletic competition.

In addition to Tutu, those signing off on Monday's call for the program's cancellation include Jody Williams; Mairead Maguire; Dr. Shirin Ebadi; President José Ramos-Horta; Adolfo Pérez Esquivel; President Oscar Arias Sanchez; Rigoberta Menchú Tum; and Betty Williams.

Citing the website for "Stars Earn Stripes," the letter quotes promotional copy that states "the fast-paced competition" intends to “pay ... homage to the men and women who serve in the U.S. Armed Forces and our first-responder services."
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"It is our belief that this program pays homage to no one anywhere and continues and expands on an inglorious tradition of glorifying war and armed violence. Military training is not to be compared, subtly or otherwise, with athletic competition by showing commercials throughout the Olympics. Preparing for war is neither amusing nor entertaining."
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2012, 03:12:41 PM »
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQgddDS-jbE&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2012, 03:26:04 PM »
Quote from: dixierose on August 14, 2012, 02:20:21 PM
Okay..I guess I'm way off base. I thought this show was a tribute to the troops...but I haven't served so I don't have your perception (not sure if that's the right word). Why do you (and the other Vets who have replied) think it's crap? Is this something that I shouldn't be supporting? I don't want to support anything that's insulting to our troops...

Yeah, put me in the same camp as Thundley (just in a different tent down on the other side -- the dude SNORES!).  :rotf:

Anyway...

Wesley Clark is a former presidential candy-date (in 2004) who is a world-class Democrat (meaning putz), and and asskisser extraordinaire, who ****ed up his gig as supreme allied commander of NATO so badly that he was cashiered and forced to retire. (Of course, at 4 stars, there was nowhere else for him to go except retirement.)

In short, Wesley Clark is an asswipe and not worthy to clean the gear of the lowest-ranking private in Afghanistan.

Did I say I don't watch that "talent" show bullshit like American Idol or whatever it's called these days?
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2012, 04:48:56 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on August 15, 2012, 03:26:04 PM
Yeah, put me in the same camp as Thundley (just in a different tent down on the other side -- the dude SNORES!).  :rotf:

Anyway...

Wesley Clark is a former presidential candy-date (in 2004) who is a world-class Democrat (meaning putz), and and asskisser extraordinaire, who ****ed up his gig as supreme allied commander of NATO so badly that he was cashiered and forced to retire. (Of course, at 4 stars, there was nowhere else for him to go except retirement.)

In short, Wesley Clark is an asswipe and not worthy to clean the gear of the lowest-ranking private in Afghanistan.

Did I say I don't watch that "talent" show bullshit like American Idol or whatever it's called these days?

Come on don't hold back. Tell us what you really think.
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2012, 04:25:15 PM »
If nothing else...at least a good charity will get some dough out of this. All of the stars' charities are geared toward or military and veterans.
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2012, 04:46:08 PM »
All The posted disclaimers aside I think it's a good idea that Joe public gets a view of what some in the military go through, albeit a watered down version. As long as it's made clear it's a watered down version.
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2012, 06:41:36 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on August 15, 2012, 03:12:41 PM
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2012, 07:00:00 PM »
Didn't watch.  Don't have much use for posers.
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2012, 03:36:51 AM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on August 17, 2012, 07:00:00 PM
Didn't watch.  Don't have much use for posers.

There weren't any "posers", per se. The military people were all identified, as were the "stars". One military person was teamed up with one "star". Then, they made a few "squads" from those teams.

Like Dixierose said, at least some charity will get some money to help veterans.
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2012, 07:51:47 AM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on August 15, 2012, 03:12:41 PM
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This has to be one of the most interesting reviews of any thing I have heard to date.

I regret I did not first see the review and then watch the show.   If there is a rebroad cast of this show, I will have to borrow mothers Depends as I will never make it to the bathroom in time.
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Re: Stars Earn Stripes
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2012, 03:17:58 PM »
Quote from: Airwolf on August 14, 2012, 02:56:35 PM
The show itself isn't the problem because to the average person they don't get to see what it is the Military does unless they are invited on the base to see something put on like the "101st Airborne Week of the Eagles" where it is a week long celebration of who and what the 101st is. The same with Air shows at Air Force and Navy Bases. What I and some others have a problem with is Wesley Clark being the host. For a General in the US Army his record isn't the most sterling and the fact that NBC thought he was the best person to get to host their show to me smells of their contempt for the troops. He was never know to care about the troops and IF I'm correct he was directly responsible for ending a few careers over petty things as well as the thing I mentioned above about how he was responsible for almost starting a war with the Russians while in Yugoslavia.

I agree with your opinion of Weasle Wesley Clark, but suspect that he's the ONLY general who would agree to participate in this show. There was something about it that made me turn it off within 15 minutes. Maybe it was the sight of Clark, maybe it was the feeling that they were somehow diminishing what our military does, turning it into showbiz. I like Sarah Palin, but feel uneasy with Todd Palin being on that show. They're getting way too much reality TV for my taste.
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