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The new meme (we're too nice, they're too mean) advances
« on: June 12, 2012, 08:45:49 AM »
Just after WI was (re-)won they went through their Kubler-Ross stages but--as with all things liberal--stunted the emotional process by stopping well-short of Acceptance.

They are now working on a new meme: we're too nice, they're too mean.

This has nothing to do with civility. Civility was out the window won Bush won in 2000 and Gore decided he wanted to cherry pick democrat held counties for a recount. Since then we've been treated to everything from being called racists for not wanting to spend $1 trillion dollars on unions and boondoggles to being accused of inspiring 9/11 CTer Jared Loughner. Meanwhile they revel in posts from MasturbatingNemesis while listening to Mike Malloy and Alan Grayscum. Scott Walker was simultaneously compared to Hitler and Stalin (so much for the efficacy of WI public schools).

Since this new meme seems to soothe DUmbasses (READ: it can't be challenged without betraying sympathy for the other side) this is the new talking point. I noted a couple of instances just after the recall win and today Nads is cited by hillneck and ScubaGuy in separate threads, advancing the meme.

Now, DUmb**** Kentuck dutifully adds his voice:

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 A very nasty political environment.

It's obvious that the Republican right-wing is at war with this Administration and everything Democratic, including the very word. (Democrat)

With what happened in Wisconsin and what is happening in Florida and elsewhere, their forces are advancing as if it were an actual war. They mean to destroy Obama and the Democratic Party.

We see the purging of voters in Florida and other states not as visible, such as Texas. We see the blatant disrespect for our public workers and our unions. They are using the debt issue, which they created, to destroy the very foundations of our society, the teachers, the firemen, the police. This is a very serious matter.

We cannot depend on the media to inform the people. They are mainly into the entertainment, the horse-race aspect, "he said, she said" type of reporting. There is very little actual honest reporting of what is happening in our country at this time.

Democrats feel the anger and animosity and reflexively fight back with similar tactics that the Repubs are using. It only turns up the heat and there is little light. We must understand the nature of this opponent and not become like them.

This is a battle for the hearts and minds of the American people. It is a propaganda war as much as it is a political struggle. We must keep the facts on our side. We must yield the sword of truth. That is the best weapon we have at this time.

TRANSLATION: Those damned republicans keep winning and doing what they said they would and not what we want.

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1. as repukes ALWAYS do, they will overreach

hopefully voters will catch on by November

And not a hint of any sense of irony.

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TheKentuckian (15,485 posts)
2. I'd put them way past overreach already. If not then the correction won't mean much.

I also don't think we can be sitting around waiting for reaction to fix the world. We have to make our way rather than waiting for karma or mistakes by the opposition to hand it to us.

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4. I feel burned out

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I live in a country where good people struggle but hateful bastards like Glenn Beck get paid 100 million to further divide us....where people care more about Dancing with the ****ing Stars than who might be appointed to the Supreme Court - I am disgusted and fed up. I won't give up but I see people waking up only when it is far, FAR too late.

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3. You seem to assume an atmosphere where the truth sees daylight and further

where it can be distinguished clearly from distortion and falsehood.

Where is this world? If it was here it passed with signs of being further away by the day.

I also see more signs of hearts and minds be corralled into a very tight area of room for debate more than being fought over, where is the fight?

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5. Unfortunately...


I don't assume truth can be clearly distinguished from the propaganda war now being spread.

My concern is that we will continue to fight but the fight will be without a purpose. We fight for the injustice we see coming down the road, as well as the injustice we see in front of us, and soon we will fight just for the fight.

You are a soldier, Kentuckian.

A slur against real soldiers.

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7. I think we (citizens of the US) are already at the point of fighting just to be fighting.

America has always been attracted to rebelliousness, but things have reached the state of being pathological.

The tea-party has picked up on the R's political impedance and contrariness, typified by Norquist's "no new taxes, shrink government" and Mitch McConnell's approach. Now the republican base, which cannot grasp the principles involved, simply walks around looking for a fight, with one or more 'Don't Tread on Me' flag magnets stuck to their cars, and tattooed on their arms.

What they mostly want to fight is anything that is status quo--except of course they don't want to change to status quo of belligerence.

In the face of amazing amounts of dry powder seemingly unreasonably held in reserve, the left has also developed an appetite for belligerence and confrontation.

Across America, around kitchen tables, in conference rooms and in legislatures there is no respect, no recognition of alternate views, no interest in searching for compromise that captures the best of both points of view. It's all or nothing and very serious.

Many of the politicians, political pundits, and even DU'ers use language so deeply embedded in defensiveness that it suggests existential desperation. Intolerance is growing.

We are in a social environment where competitive debate replaces discussion and where debate is nothing but verbal combat. It seems to have been brought about by the approach of one political party determined to have its way, either by winner-take-all outcomes or refusal to cooperate. But, as argued by Adam Curtis, in "The Power of Nightmares", it could also have arisen from fundamental religious rhetoric, not only in America, but also in the Eastern Mediterranean.

After decades of this, the distinction of chicken vs egg arguments seems less important than recognition of the current increasingly unstable state of affairs here.

As a society we've drawn up sides, we dream of conflict, and we practice arguments that will justify conflict.

These people are Darwinists, right?

I'm not saying we should glorify combat for combat's sake. Conflict always carries an opportunity cost. It's wasteful and inefficient but these people preach the gospel of survival of the fittest then whine whenever life doesn't drop everything into their lap with a pink bow on it. Worse, if someone has a contrary idea/desire that person is supposed to forsake all sense of self for the Left's immediate wants.

Nothing stops these assholes from creating 100% organic food stores that pay $20/hr and have insurance co-ops while giving their products to homeless people without regard to profit.

The only people stopping the DUmbasses are the DUmbasses themselves (and the basic laws of economics).

Anyway...

...look for a lot more of these threads. They're cheap, easy and can't be contested.

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Re: The new meme (we're too nice, they're too mean) advances
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2012, 09:03:55 AM »
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...This is a battle for the hearts and minds of the American people. It is a propaganda war as much as it is a political struggle. We must keep the facts on our side. We must yield the sword of truth. That is the best weapon we have at this time.


I think DUmmie kentuckkook used the wrong word.  I believe he meant to use "wield" instead of "yield".

DUmmies have "yielded" the truth since the days of Karl Marx.

Murphy's 3rd Law:  "You can't make anything 'idiot DUmmie proof'.  The world will just create a better idiot DUmmie."

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Re: The new meme (we're too nice, they're too mean) advances
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2012, 09:58:48 AM »
Such whiny, overdramatic little bitches...

DUmmies:
  • Your message doesn't resonate with anyone outside of your echo chamber.
  • Nobody but the most ignorant and lazy is buying what you are selling.
  • None of you can think, much less "fight".  Any onslaught against reality will be met with the same result you are getting now.
  • Preaching this revolution bullshit does nothing but make you look like the sore-assed losers we already know you to be.
  • Looking down your noses at anyone who is not like you will do nothing to further your cause.

If you cannot gather enough self discipline and honesty to master yourselves, how do you ever hope to master us?
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Re: The new meme (we're too nice, they're too mean) advances
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2012, 10:36:09 AM »
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They are using the debt issue, which they created, to destroy the very foundations of our society, the teachers, the firemen, the police.

This is going to be the meme of the moment for the left.  Conservatives are waging a war on teachers, police and firefighters.

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Re: The new meme (we're too nice, they're too mean) advances
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2012, 10:42:34 AM »
This is going to be the meme of the moment for the left.  Conservatives are waging a war on teachers, police and firefighters.
And women, especially if they are one of the above. But we are fully in favor of hate speach.
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Re: The new meme (we're too nice, they're too mean) advances
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2012, 10:52:06 AM »
This is getting old. Can't you DUloons come up with anything better than this "I'm rubber, you're glue" drivel? Jeeze, read a few books, get some fresh air, see a psychiatrist, fail a few suicides, something! I'm falling asleep here.

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Re: The new meme (we're too nice, they're too mean) advances
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2012, 11:04:08 AM »
fail a few suicides

Do you really want them to fail at that? :???: O-)
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Re: The new meme (we're too nice, they're too mean) advances
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2012, 11:39:35 AM »
Do you really want them to fail at that? :???: O-)

If it's pills or carbon monoxide, anyway; good chance of brain damage with those. But I do see your point. Even if that happened, how could we tell with that lot?

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Re: The new meme (we're too nice, they're too mean) advances
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2012, 11:47:56 AM »
If it's pills or carbon monoxide, anyway; good chance of brain damage with those. But I do see your point. Even if that happened, how could we tell with that lot?

They stop posting? :???: :whistling:
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Re: The new meme (we're too nice, they're too mean) advances
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2012, 12:48:34 PM »
They stop posting? :???: :whistling:

It hasn't stopped Nadin . . . :mental:
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Re: The new meme (we're too nice, they're too mean) advances
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2012, 01:24:06 PM »
It hasn't stopped Nadin . . . :mental:

Delusional behavior isn't the kind of brain damage he's talking about . . . is it? :???: :whistling:
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Re: The new meme (we're too nice, they're too mean) advances
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2012, 01:46:49 PM »
Delusional behavior isn't the kind of brain damage he's talking about . . . is it? :???: :whistling:

You're right, I mean significant loss of cognitive/motor ability, for example, the ability to use a knife and fork, or the ability to understand little things like how debt can easily outpace revenue if you have an unlimited credit card. Like I said, how could we tell? Maybe they've already made some attempts and brain damage, after all, explains the DUmmies.

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Re: The new meme (we're too nice, they're too mean) advances
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2012, 01:49:03 PM »
You're right, I mean significant loss of cognitive/motor ability, for example, the ability to use a knife and fork, or the ability to understand little things like how debt can easily outpace revenue if you have an unlimited credit card. Like I said, how could we tell? Maybe they've already made some attempts and brain damage, after all, explains the DUmmies.

It explains Taverner anyway!
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