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Re: Obama to speak out on Bush 'appeasement' charge
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2008, 01:49:12 PM »

Well, I certainly didn't expect this response. :whatever:

this guy only has a couple of plays in his playbook.

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Obama blasts Bush, McCain over attacks
WATERTOWN, South Dakota (CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama slammed President Bush on Friday for launching "exactly the kind of appalling attack that's divided our country and that alienates us from the world."

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Re: Obama to speak out on Bush 'appeasement' charge
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2008, 01:59:02 PM »

from NRO's The Corner:
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Can Somebody Explain to Me ...   [Andy McCarthy]

... how Obama sat in Wright's church for 20 years and managed never to hear anything, but hears 20 seconds of a Bush speech that doesn't mention him and perceives a shameful personal attack?

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :-)




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Re: Obama to speak out on Bush 'appeasement' charge
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2008, 02:34:52 PM »
the mccain campaign responds.  I think there is more, but this is all I could find right now.:

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It was remarkable to see Barack Obama’s hysterical diatribe in response to a speech in which his name wasn’t even mentioned.

These are serious issues that deserve a serious debate, not the same tired partisan rants we heard today from Senator Obama. Senator Obama has pledged to unconditionally meet with Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad -- who pledges to wipe Israel off the map, denies the Holocaust, sponsors terrorists, arms America’s enemies in Iraq and pursues nuclear weapons. What would Senator Obama talk about with such a man? It would be a wonderful thing if we lived in a world where we don’t have enemies.

But that is not the world we live in, and until Senator Obama understands that, the American people have every reason to doubt whether he has the strength, judgment and determination to keep us safe.

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punk'd again. :rotf:

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Oh snap!!!! I'm stealing that line about Wright and using it a sig on another board. There's a libtard there that has a snarky sig line about Bush/Carter/Oooobama. *eyeroll*
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according to the white house, the target of the "appeasement" remarks was indeed jimmy carter:
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Ed Gillespie, gaggling to reporters today in Saudi Arabia, said that the White House really meant to
Get Carter, not Obama:

"We did not anticipate that it would be taken that way, because its kind of hard to take it that way when you look at the actual words. ... There was some anticipation that someone might say you know its an expression of rebuke to former President Carter for having met with Hamas. that was something that was anticipated but no one wrote about it or raised it."

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(the link is down because (I assume) drudge is linking to it, and the traffic is killing them.  I fished the quote off the
page a different way.)

hey, Baroque!  put THAT in your hysteria and smoke it, pal! :-)

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Can Somebody Explain to Me ...   [Andy McCarthy]

... how Obama sat in Wright's church for 20 years and managed never to hear anything, but hears 20 seconds of a Bush speech that doesn't mention him and perceives a shameful personal attack?

  They absolutely do it to themselves.   :tongue:



It was remarkable to see Barack Obama’s hysterical diatribe in response to a speech in which his name wasn’t even mentioned.


now you know somebody at KOS wrote Obamalama's speech!  :lmao:



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Re: Obama to speak out on Bush 'appeasement' charge
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2008, 04:04:49 PM »

from NRO's The Corner:
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Can Somebody Explain to Me ...   [Andy McCarthy]

... how Obama sat in Wright's church for 20 years and managed never to hear anything, but hears 20 seconds of a Bush speech that doesn't mention him and perceives a shameful personal attack?

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :-)





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according to the white house, the target of the "appeasement" remarks was indeed jimmy carter:
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Ed Gillespie, gaggling to reporters today in Saudi Arabia, said that the White House really meant to
Get Carter, not Obama:

"We did not anticipate that it would be taken that way, because its kind of hard to take it that way when you look at the actual words. ... There was some anticipation that someone might say you know its an expression of rebuke to former President Carter for having met with Hamas. that was something that was anticipated but no one wrote about it or raised it."

link


(the link is down because (I assume) drudge is linking to it, and the traffic is killing them.  I fished the quote off the
page a different way.)

hey, Baroque!  put THAT in your hysteria and smoke it, pal! :-)
A beautiful parry and thrust.

Now we have the Obama camp admitting they see themselves as Carter 2.0.
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Let me get this straight. It's perfectly fair for Barack Obama and his cohorts to repeatedly disparage President Bush's foreign policy as "cowboy diplomacy" but unspeakably horrific for Bush to analogize the Democrats' approach to foreign policy to appeasing Hitler?

When Obama compared Hillary Clinton's threats against Iran to President Bush's threatening "bluster" and "cowboy diplomacy," no one batted an eye.

But when Mr. Bush, in addressing Israel's Knesset, compared those who want to negotiate with today's terrorists and tyrants to an American senator in 1939 who lamented that Hitler's march into Poland might have been avoided "if only I could have talked to Hitler," Obama, other Democrats and the mainstream media went ballistic.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DavidLimbaugh/2008/05/16/none_dare_call_it_appeasement



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Let me get this straight. It's perfectly fair for Barack Obama and his cohorts to repeatedly disparage President Bush's foreign policy as "cowboy diplomacy" but unspeakably horrific for Bush to analogize the Democrats' approach to foreign policy to appeasing Hitler?

When Obama compared Hillary Clinton's threats against Iran to President Bush's threatening "bluster" and "cowboy diplomacy," no one batted an eye.

But when Mr. Bush, in addressing Israel's Knesset, compared those who want to negotiate with today's terrorists and tyrants to an American senator in 1939 who lamented that Hitler's march into Poland might have been avoided "if only I could have talked to Hitler," Obama, other Democrats and the mainstream media went ballistic.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DavidLimbaugh/2008/05/16/none_dare_call_it_appeasement




exactly.  I thought DixieBelle covered it pretty well here

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this is his position on iran, a country listed by the US department of state as a state sponsor of terrorism since 1984, straight
from his website -- I was a little surprised that this was still there:
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Diplomacy: Obama is the only major candidate who supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions. Now is the time to pressure Iran directly to change their troubling behavior. Obama would offer the Iranian regime a choice. If Iran abandons its nuclear program and support for terrorism, we will offer incentives like membership in the World Trade Organization, economic investments, and a move toward normal diplomatic relations. If Iran continues its troubling behavior, we will step up our economic pressure and political isolation. Seeking this kind of comprehensive settlement with Iran is our best way to make progress.

Appeasement from the horse's mouth


that is a terrifically ballsey stand, by the way.  he offers membership in the WTO, and if they won't cooperate, he will continue
to do nothing.  economic pressure?  I think that is a proven failure.


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Wow. He's either incredibily ignorant, has a much darker purpose than we could have imagined, or is just arrogant enough to think it's okay to have such policies.

Or scary version? It's all three of those scenarios.
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Wow. He's either incredibily ignorant, has a much darker purpose than we could have imagined, or is just arrogant enough to think it's okay to have such policies.

Or scary version? It's all three of those scenarios.

I'm going with a mix of all of the above options
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Re: Obama to speak out on Bush 'appeasement' charge
« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2008, 07:41:12 PM »
We need that graphic with Ooobama that says, saying his presidency will be Carter's second term.



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Mark Steyn: Obama an appeaser? How dare you
By MARK STEYN
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/president-obama-words-2044703-bush-talking

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President Reagan talked with the Soviets while pushing ahead with the deployment of Cruise and Pershing missiles in Europe. He spoke softly – after getting himself a bigger stick. Sen. Obama is proposing to reward a man who pledges to wipe Israel off the map with a presidential photo-op to which he will bring not even a twig. No wonder he's so twitchy about it.

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