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We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« on: May 22, 2012, 08:19:45 PM »
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We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.

This will generate a heated response and force the GOP to produce a jobs program.

Take a look at Europe and tell people that will be us if we don't try new things. A new TVA progran, a CCC program.

A big gamble but without some bold no Nov fun.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002717474

How many job bills has the House passed only to be shitcanned by Dingy Harry?

If you want us to become Greece then by all means lower the SS age.  :whatever:

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7. SS was never intended to be more than a supplement to a real retirement pension

SS alone is barely enough to keep someone from living under a bridge. For a while any way. Because the increasing cost of living will eventually send most people depending on just SS under a bridge to live if they live long enough.

Be better off to unionize and negotiate a real pension. And a 401K is NOT a real pension.

Don

Or you could save up for your own retirement. I know that's crazy.

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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 08:27:27 PM »
Umm, who's going to pay for it?
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2012, 08:40:45 PM »
This...makes...no...sense.

The whole reason to lower the SS age is to force Republicans to create jobs?

What?

Create jobs by lowering taxes and cutting back government.
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2012, 08:42:18 PM »
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Be better off to unionize and negotiate a real pension.

The problem with pensions, son, is that eventually the company through which the pension is being funded has to reduce the workforce or goes out of business, and then the funds dry up.  Or the blue chip stocks and bonds where the pension is being held drops significantly in value.  Then what?

Oh, I forget, idiots like you would want the gov't to step in and fund the pension back to the value it would have been had all these unfortunate mishaps not occured.

Shove it, Don.

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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2012, 08:43:13 PM »
Better to just repeal the Law of Gravity or Entropy. Perpetual motion!!!!!11111!!!!!elebinty

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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2012, 08:50:44 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on May 22, 2012, 08:27:27 PM
Umm, who's going to pay for it?

Tax the rich, of course.  :-)
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2012, 09:55:46 PM »
Quote from: jukin on May 22, 2012, 08:43:13 PM
Better to just repeal the Law of Gravity or Entropy. Perpetual motion!!!!!11111!!!!!elebinty

I think you've captured the essence of their 'plan' rather concisely, there.
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2012, 10:00:38 PM »
Quote from: Duke Nukum on May 22, 2012, 08:40:45 PM
This...makes...no...sense.

The whole reason to lower the SS age is to force Republicans to create jobs?

What?

Create jobs by lowering taxes and cutting back government.

My mole once got into a discussion--as much as one can occur on DU before the "RW talking points" dodge plays in--and the idea behind it is: if all those people retire that will leave more jobs for the younger who in turn gratefully pay for the retirement of others in anticipation of the day they get to retire.

I countered that retiring at 50 meant people had to fed, housed and provided-for for at least 3 decades by those working while they produce nothing.

It was then that I was called a RW troll.
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2012, 10:08:49 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on May 22, 2012, 10:00:38 PM
My mole once got into a discussion--as much as one can occur on DU before the "RW talking points" dodge plays in--and the idea behind it is: if all those people retire that will leave more jobs for the younger who in turn gratefully pay for the retirement of others in anticipation of the day they get to retire.

I countered that retiring at 50 meant people had to fed, housed and provided-for for at least 3 decades by those working while they produce nothing.

It was then that I was called a RW troll.
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2012, 07:20:32 AM »
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 We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.



John, you idiot it's going broke trying to fund people retiring in their sixties.  What would happen if we lowered if more.  GREECE  
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2012, 07:35:43 AM »
That plan isn't bold.  It's more of the stipid Liberal crap that got us into the mess we're in now.

You want bold?


Bold is adopting the proposals put forward by Paul Ryan.
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2012, 07:37:02 AM »
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17. The problem I see is that jobs will never come back for 50+ group.

It will be 10-15 yr before population catches up with the jobs. If you over 50 and unemployed, your only hope is Mc Jobs, at least a soc sec check will give them some dignity and let them move on with their life.

Also we can give 50% of graduates jobs, so we need to stop having freshmen classes for at least 5yrs.

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20. hell yeah

SS and Medicare for everyone over 50 would flat out make this a great country.

Do that and so many jobs will open up it will make china spin.

This is a job for Occupy. Next GA.....

There's some major idiocy on that thread.  
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2012, 07:52:45 AM »
That's a great idea....don't work from age 18 to 50 then retire.....DUmmies. :mad:
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2012, 08:13:39 AM »
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And a 401K is NOT a real pension.


Huh--when my 401(k) balance that I've contributed to for barely a decade is about 1/2 the percentage ripped from my paychek for SS, and when I retire, assuming I live 15 years (that's age 80, DUmmies) I'll still pull more than double the monthly amount from my 401(k) than I will if I get SS at age 65, assuming that's even still around when I retire.

IOW, DUmmies, my 401(k) balance is currently MORE than what I'll get in SS benefits for 15 years if I retire at 65, according to their own numbers.  And I have at least 20 more years to contribute.  So anyone who says a 401(k) isn't a real pension is 1--full of shit, 2--dumber than a bag of ****ing hammers.

My home equity, cash balance, 401(k), and insurance payoff are my retirement.  SS, if I get it?  Beer and poker money, maybe.
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2012, 08:20:34 AM »
Why 50? If lowering the Social Security age is such a good idea, why not lower it to 40? Maybe 30? Or even 18? Or just start the moment they're born? Surely, if we did that, this country would be a paradise overnight, right?

Right?
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2012, 01:16:47 PM »
Dear lurking DUches, shit like this is why your site is an internet laughing stock.

However, since I am an evil conservative that likes to use a magnifying glass on your ant farm, how about making Social Security pay everyone $100/Hr from 18 on? Oh and free college and four week all expense paid vacos anywhere in the world?

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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2012, 02:07:00 PM »
Quote from: txradioguy on May 23, 2012, 07:35:43 AM
That plan isn't bold.  It's more of the stipid Liberal crap that got us into the mess we're in now.

You want bold?


Bold is adopting the proposals put forward by Paul Ryan.

Yep. Liberals always advocate more socialism to fix messes caused by socialism. In other words, doubling down on stupid.
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2012, 02:52:31 PM »
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2012, 04:23:36 PM »
Actually, I could see how proposing Social Security to kick in at age 50 would work.

Simply deny medical services to any person over age 62.  



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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2012, 04:44:23 PM »
Quote from: BattleHymn on May 23, 2012, 04:23:36 PM
Actually, I could see how proposing Social Security to kick in at age 50 would work.

Simply deny medical services to any person over age 32.  



Forward!

Fixed.  :-)
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2012, 04:52:50 PM »
Quote from: jukin on May 23, 2012, 01:16:47 PM
Dear lurking DUches, shit like this is why your site is an internet laughing stock.

However, since I am an evil conservative that likes to use a magnifying glass on your ant farm, how about making Social Security pay everyone $100/Hr from 18 on? Oh and free college and four week all expense paid vacos anywhere in the world?



Hmmm, then I guess we still have to supply our own beer then?
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2012, 04:54:29 PM »
Quote from: 67 Rover on May 23, 2012, 04:52:50 PM
Hmmm, then I guess we still have to supply our own beer then?

We will still be due beer and travel money, and many experiences.  :-)
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2012, 06:07:00 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on May 23, 2012, 04:54:29 PM
We will still be due beer and travel money, and many experiences.  :-)

Well played, well played indeed!
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Re: We need to propose bold ideas like reducing SocSec to age 50.
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2012, 01:34:22 AM »
Ya know, I really try to give these parasites the benefit of the doubt that not ALL of them are dope smoking moochers.  But this thread convinces me that there is not a single dang one of them that doesn't want something for nothing. 
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