They hate what you believe in because you don't believe in them

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Notice the MO:

Take a fundamental right the commies find stunting to their agenda and re-cast it as a personal bigotry exalting itself over the law, then use the claim that the law must prevail to trump the fundamental right

Notice how he's trying to make civil law (birth control madates) sound like civil right.

WillParkinson 

74% Of Americans Believe That Religious Beliefs Should Supercede Civil Law?

 74% Of Americans Believe That Religious Beliefs Should Supercede Civil Law?

According to a Marist Poll paid for by the Knights Of Columbus (AHEM), 74% of respondents say that religious beliefs should always take precedence over civil law. World Net Daily:
 
In the Knights of Columbus-Marist Poll, nearly three in four Americans, 74 percent, said freedom of religion should be protected “even if it conflicts with other laws.” Majorities of Americans also would protect the First Amendment conscience rights of health care workers, insurers and hospitals, the poll said. “This survey reveals that the American people are fundamentally dedicated to protecting the First Amendment conscience rights of everyone,” said Supreme Knight Carl A. Anderson. “Allowing people to opt out of these procedures or services – which violate their faith – is the right thing to do. It is also key to protecting the First Amendment rights of all Americans and enjoys strong public support as well.”
 
http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2012/05/74-of-americans-believe-that-religious.html
 
(Please note the location of the poll as well as the group who paid for the alleged thing.)

MrScorpio

1. If this true, then we have a serious problem in this country

All there is needed for a crypto-fascist takeover of America to actually happen is just for the right movement to emerge. It would come from the shadows, while led by the right charismatic leader, reshaping our society into one where The Bible is rote law and all infidels are to be dealt with.
 
A takeover of a major political party would be even better. Why reinvent the wheel? It's also a great way to use an established political brand.
 
Seeing how our economy, media and our military all have the global reach that they do, it could spell some extremely detrimental consequences for us and the rest of the planet, if such a movement takes over this country and the "Leader" takes America on a crusade.
 
Don't ever say that it can't happen here. That's the very first mistake that skeptics often make, right before they all end up under a pile of burning corpses.

Crypto-fascist

Not to be mistaken for the here-o now-o fascist that would destroy freedom of religion and trample the right recognized by 76% of the 99%.

Response to WillParkinson (Original post)

Thu May 24, 2012, 04:40 AM

 baldguy

4. Sharia Law is evil - but Catholic Canon Law is *good*.

Sharia - she had premarital sex: KILL HER

Catholics - she had premarital sex: pay for your own damned birth control

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002722533

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Who was it that fought against slavery when it was settled law?  Christians.
Who opposed Hitler in Germany?  Dietrich Bonhoeffer and other Christians.
Most frightening for DUmmies, who supports the right to life?  Christians.

There is no louder voice for the downtrodden than the church, but you never hear that from DUmpmonkeys.

[Skul]

I'm going to take a shot at how the poll question was framed...
"Do you believe in the First Amendment as it is written?"
Got a funny feeling I'm pretty close.

[Splashdown]

Isn't that the basic gist of the First Amendment? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Only 74 percent?

[movie buff]

"In the Knights of Columbus-Marist Poll, nearly three in four Americans, 74 percent, said freedom of religion should be protected “even if it conflicts with other laws.”"
Laws which conflict with Americans' rights to freedom of religion (Unless it's something like murdering someone and trying to justify it as an "honor killing") shouldn't be passed in the first place! It's the whole reason why the First Amendment to the Constitution exists!

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Isn't that the basic gist of the First Amendment? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Only 74 percent?

I imagine it somewhat coincides with the 26% of the population that thinks Obama is America's greatest president.

[Karin]

I think Dorko meant "Christo-fascist."  Idiot. 

[Skul]

Reflecting on what Splashdown mentioned.  Here's the full version.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

The bold part is where the DUmmie has his panties in a wad.

“even if it conflicts with other laws.”

DUmmie doesn't understand, that those "other laws" are a direct infringment of the First Amendment, and can be challanged.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I think Dorko meant "Christo-fascist."  Idiot. 

I think he actually meant crypto.

I saw the expression quite a bit when I first started trolling forums ~2003. He's implying that America is populated by a nascent fascist horde waiting for the right excuse to slaughter the gays and minorities to be offered to their rich overlords as tribute before marching off to global conquest.

It often accompanies policy demands that could never pass referendum or constitutional muster.

So, in other words, they know what they want is monumentally unpopular (read: undemocratic) and violates people's rights so first they'll make the case the people are too dangerous to be permitted any form of self-governance or personal liberty. They are required to take emergency measures to suspend the government and impose solutions because dangerous elements are a threat.

Sound familiar?

Now that the people are rejecting Obama I expect the term to work its way back into the liberal vernacular.

[vesta111]

I imagine it somewhat coincides with the 26% of the population that thinks Obama is America's greatest president.

Phooey, the Laws of the land do Trump religious ones.

American Indians that for 8,000 years used natural grown plants told these plants are now illegal to use.
So much for their faith and rites.

Laws that say a person of a pray based religion that depends on God and not medicine are imprisoned if a child dies due to prayer not medical care.

Courts that take children under their protection if the child needs a blood transfusion and the parents refuse due to being Jehovah Witnesses.

Prohibition, Protestant churches that used wine in communion had to switch to grape juice while the Catholic Church was exempt from the Law.

Mormons found their faith and rites broken when the Law told them their life style and beliefs were now against the law. Split the faith, those willing to change their faith to law abiding and those that refused and left the Country to follow their faith.  Mitt's  family did so, as we know.

Today we have immigrants that have followed their belief for century's coming here that face long prison terms for circumcising their girls, or selling them off as brides to anyone that wants them.

Yes Laws do triumph religious beliefs, SF. wants to make it a crime to circumcise male baby's, so anyone for religious or medical concern has to take their baby out of town to have it done-----

Back of my mind is this not how the Germans discovered the Jewish males in school ?????