primitives make a prediction

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002702318

Oh my.

TheWraith (23,613 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

Prediction: Come November, Obama beats Romney by far more than the margin suggested by polls.

Why? Short answer: Support for Romney is about as thin as aluminum foil. The "enthusiasm" for him, such as it is, is based pretty much solely on people wanting to beat Obama. A lot of Republicans and Republican leaning independents may say "Yeah, I'm voting for Romney" for a phone poll, but when it comes time to actually drag themselves out after work to go down and punch in their vote, they'll probably stay home with a drink knowing that Romney is going to lose whether they go out and vote or not.

obxhead (6,201 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

1. The polls are completely manufactured.

I simply don't believe the numbers are anywhere near as close as they say they are.

For instance, the meme going around now is that Romney is getting women back to voting for him. Oh really? I don't know a single woman saying anything positive about Romney, including Republican women.

It's all bullshit. If the polling isn't close the pundits have nothing to talk about on their 24 hours "news" channels. The answer is to manufacture close polls.

WI_DEM (28,037 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

3. I think he will win, but won't be surprised if he loses...

if Walker can win here in Wisconsin after all he did (and hopefully he won't but right now it's not looking good), then anything can happen.

MADem (71,915 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

4. It would not surprise me if people who purport to support RMoney publicly vote for Obama privately.

Not because they love Obama, but because they have other competing interests that do not include that Heathen Mormon.

Example--the Santorum crowd. They can fake being a good Republican and pretending to support RMoney, but they'd rather wait four years when their Fecal Hero can run again, as opposed to risking the possibility that RMoney could get in and force them to wait eight years.

Wow.

That's interesting.

Those who liked the former Pennsylvania senator are going to vote for the Magic One?

newblewtoo (358 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

12. Your position is akin to whistling by the grave yard. Are you not yet familiar with the term "broken glass republican"? They are not voting for Mitt, they are voting against President Obama. And just how the heck did Massachusetts elect both Romoney and Brown in the first place?

<<the first "broken glass Republican," called that even before was old enough to vote.

That was a long time ago.

MADem (71,915 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

19. No it isn't. I invite your attention to very recent American history.

There was a cadre of people who initially supported a clown named Ronald Reagan during the election that put Ford against Carter. These people pretended to support Ford, but they breathed a HUGE sigh of relief when he lost, because they knew if he won, they'd be stuck with him for eight years, but since he lost, the Reagan crew could go up against Carter in a scant four years.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The Santorum people have no ****ing reason to vote for Mitt Romney--all he is is an OBSTRUCTION to them in four years. Obama, OTOH, is done, with no clear successor in four years. If they want to see "President Santorum" in the White House in the next go-round, the guy to vote for is OBAMA or some third-party asswipe, not RMoney.

Anyone playing a long-view game can see that quite plainly. I won't even go into the demoralized attitude of the GOP--they have reason to feel that way, too--they're all a bunch of whining idiots.

Massachusetts is a woefully SEXIST state. We have yet to send a woman to the Senate, and we have a lousy record with female office-holders in general. It is an interest area of mine, seeing more women in public office in MA.

The voting public voted for Brown because they didn't like his female opponent. They voted for RMoney because they didn't like HIS female opponent. I voted for both female candidates, but alas, I am but one individual. Also, RMoney ran millions of dollars of very pretty ads that promised that the second he was elected governor, he'd call up all his "business" friends and they'd fire up factories in the poor communities in western MA and elsewhere. Of course, once elected, he did no such thing, and MA dropped to 47th in New Job Creation. We lost a congressional seat (Barney's, in fact) because we were redistricted out of a seat due to the exodus from MA due to Romney-era job losses.

You probably don't understand that MA is a "weak governor" state (like TX). The governor does nothing without the consent of Beacon Hill, which is overwhelmingly Dem, overwhelmingly "old school," and overwhelmingly corrupt in the sense that it's not just who you know, it's who you (rhymes with know). It's why RMoney got little done, unless the Powers That Be in the MA legislature said it was "ok."

So, to answer your question, THAT's how we got Naked Brownie and RMoney. They got the gigs, but were hamstrung from the git-go.

Wait Wut (3,534 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

6. I agree.

However, I don't want our side becoming complacent, either. So, yeah...your thread isn't helping. J/K

I've also talked to a few Rs and Is that "say" they're voting for Romney, but have no real reason. He offers them nothing. It isn't just an enthusiasm gap, it's apathy.

AtomicKitten (38,165 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

10. I think Pres O will bury RMoney in the debates.

randome (3,844 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

11. Leave it to Obama to liven up a normally deadly dull telecast.

I'm looking forward to that first debate.

Speck Tater (8,808 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

14. Prediction: Everyone is so confindent of an Obama win they stay home and Romney wins.

cali (71,029 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

20. I don't buy it. Why?

In brief: When times are really tough people tend to opt for change- any change.

And I think you underestimate how much hate there is for the President.

StitchesforSnitches (32 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

28. If People are Convinced that Obama will win

They will be less likely to turn out and vote.

People need the sh*t scared out of them so they will turn out and vote.

Obama hate alone will get Mitt close to 50 million votes.

Too bad for the primitives.

[Traveshamockery]

obxhead (6,201 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

1. The polls are completely manufactured.

I simply don't believe the numbers are anywhere near as close as they say they are.

This primitive would be correct.  Obama is going to LOSE in a landslide. 

[JohnnyReb]

DUmmie starts off just fine then gets it all wrong.....to CYA the democrats.

TheWraith (23,613 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

Prediction: Come November, Obama beats Romney by far more than the margin suggested by polls.

Why? Short answer:...VOTER FRAUD

You can over do a good bad thing.

[Skul]

 

Speck Tater (8,808 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

14. Prediction: Everyone is so confindent of an Obama win they stay home and Romney wins.

Don't forget to get out and vote, November 7th. Just do it.

cali (71,029 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

20. I don't buy it. Why?

In brief: When times are really tough people tend to opt for change- any change.

And I think you underestimate how much hate there is for the Presidents policies.

Fixed it for you, DUmbass.

[JohnnyReb]

Don't forget to get out and vote, November 7th. Just do it....early and often.
Fixed it for you, DUmbass.

[JohnnyReb]

I'm making a list.

I'm checking it twice.

Gonna vote more than thrice.

Voting out the naughty not nice.

Romney is coming to town.

[Skul]

  

[Ballygrl]

"Yeah, I'm voting for Romney" for a phone poll, but when it comes time to actually drag themselves out after work to go down and punch in their vote, they'll probably stay home with a drink knowing that Romney is going to lose whether they go out and vote or not.

My family, my friends, and me, we'd go to the polls on our knees on a glass-filled road to get to the polls.

[franksolich]

My family, my friends, and me, we'd go to the polls on our knees on a glass-filled road to get to the polls.

There was--I surely hope she's not syndicated any more--a columnist from Rhode Island, Froma Harrop, who whined in a column shortly after the election of November 2000, that Republicans are "too conscientious" about voting, and that she wished we'd go to the grocery story or tennis court or something, forgetting to vote.

I was astounded.  That column appeared in the Omaha World-Herald, and I repeat myself, I hope to God she isn't syndicated any more; I haven't seen her for years now.
 

[BlueStateSaint]

There was--I surely hope she's not syndicated any more--a columnist from Rhode Island, Froma Harrop, who whined in a column shortly after the election of November 2000, that Republicans are "too conscientious" about voting, and that she wished we'd go to the grocery story or tennis court or something, forgetting to vote.

I was astounded.  That column appeared in the Omaha World-Herald, and I repeat myself, I hope to God she isn't syndicated any more; I haven't seen her for years now.
 

I've heard of her, and I think that she may still put her tripe out from time to time.

[Skul]

Froma Harrop

Sounds like some sort of respiratory ailment.

[jukin]

0 only wins kalifornia, NY, WDC, and Minnesota. Minnesota is in the purple column now and cold go red depending on how much more the economic illiterate POSTUS screws up.

[franksolich]

0 only wins kalifornia, NY, WDC, and Minnesota. Minnesota is in the purple column now and cold go red depending on how much more the economic illiterate POSTUS screws up.

Actually, as time goes on, it becomes more and more possible the Magic One'll carry only two places.

It's still a very distant possibility, but closer than it used to be.

However, "as goes Vermont, so goes the District of Columbia" doesn't have as nice a ring to it does the one from 1936, "as goes Maine, so goes Vermont."

[BlueStateSaint]

0 only wins kalifornia, NY, WDC, and Minnesota. Minnesota is in the purple column now and cold go red depending on how much more the economic illiterate POSTUS screws up.

You forgot Chicago outvoting the rest of Illinois.

[dandi]

Just setting things up for another "stolen election" meme. Deny the polling data, make weird claims about how none of Teh Fundies will vote for a Mormon...

...Rove!

...Diebold!

...lather, rinse, repeat...

[Kyle Ricky]

If Romney wins, you can guarantee that they will be screaming voter fraud. Just like the sore losers they are.

[Ballygrl]

There was--I surely hope she's not syndicated any more--a columnist from Rhode Island, Froma Harrop, who whined in a column shortly after the election of November 2000, that Republicans are "too conscientious" about voting, and that she wished we'd go to the grocery story or tennis court or something, forgetting to vote.

I was astounded.  That column appeared in the Omaha World-Herald, and I repeat myself, I hope to God she isn't syndicated any more; I haven't seen her for years now.

We even vote in the school board elections.