primitives discuss Hellenic moment of truth

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002682144

Oh my.

Purveyor (8,872 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

Coalition Talks Stall, Greece Faces "Moment Of Truth"

(Reuters) - Greek political leaders on Sunday ignored a final plea from the president to form a coalition government to avert a repeat election, pushing the debt-stricken nation closer to bankruptcy and a possible exit from the euro zone.

Leaders of the three biggest parties met at the presidential mansion for a final attempt to bridge their differences, but the talks quickly hit an impasse as they traded accusations on a deeply unpopular bailout package tied to harsh spending cuts.

Conservative leader Antonis Samaras, who finished first in last week's election, pinned the blame on the far-left SYRIZA party, which flatly rules out backing a pro-bailout coalition with Samaras's New Democracy and Socialist PASOK parties.

"They are not asking for agreement, they are asking us to be their partners in crime and we will not be their accomplices," said Alexis Tsipras, who has become an overnight sensation since leading SYRIZA to a surprise second place in the vote.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/13/us-greece-idUSBRE8440DG20120513

Only one primitive showed up at this campfire thus far, and it's a primitive doesn't know shit about shit, the professional handicapped primitive:

Odin2005 (42,996 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

1. The BBC was spouting Neo-Liberal pro-austirity BS on this last night.

They had a dumbass RW Greek economist on accusing the Leftist anti-austerity parties of having no alternatives and similar crap, and they did not have anyone on to respond to that crap!

[Mr Mannn]

It sad that people will suffer for this.
But Greece will collapse and the fall will be devastating. So will Spain. France will go in a few years.
And the libs will have no one to blame but themselves.

Europe will turn to dictators like they always have. I really don't feel like saving their a$$ again. Sorry.

[Freeper]

It sad that people will suffer for this.
But Greece will collapse and the fall will be devastating. So will Spain. France will go in a few years.
And the libs will have no one to blame but themselves.

Europe will turn to dictators like they always have. I really don't feel like saving their a$$ again. Sorry.

If 0bama wins in Nov then our future will follow that of the countries you mentioned. 

[obumazombie]

If 0bama wins in Nov then our future will follow that of the countries you mentioned. 

Yikes !

[Carl]

I won`t pretend to know all the ins and outs of European economic and social(ist) society but is it fair to say they have been allowed to dabble in what they have for far too long because of American subsidies regarding our defense shield.

[LC EFA]

News flash Eurotards.


When you are bankrupt and your expenditure vastly surpasses your income, the creditors are hounding your door and the rest of us have to send you welfare to keep the wolfs at bay - STOP SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY !

You dumb bastards deserve everything that is coming your way.

[DumbAss Tanker]

The Germans have pretty much told them in no uncertain terms that it's 'No austerity = no money," the Greek Left can posture all they want to but in six weeks the cupboard is bare.  While the Germans don't want to crash the Euro and might make some degree of accommodation to prevent that, they also really, really hate looking like anyone's patsies, especially the Med countries which they pretty much regard as happy-go-lucky irreponsible morons.

[franksolich]

The Germans have pretty much told them in no uncertain terms that it's 'No austerity = no money," the Greek Left can posture all they want to but in six weeks the cupboard is bare.  While the Germans don't want to crash the Euro and might make some degree of accommodation to prevent that, they also really, really hate looking like anyone's patsies, especially the Med countries which they pretty much regard as happy-go-lucky irreponsible morons.

I'll bet the British, Norwegians, and Swiss are very happy they never fell into the euro.

[Vagabond]

The Germans have pretty much told them in no uncertain terms that it's 'No austerity = no money," the Greek Left can posture all they want to but in six weeks the cupboard is bare.  While the Germans don't want to crash the Euro and might make some degree of accommodation to prevent that, they also really, really hate looking like anyone's patsies, especially the Med countries which they pretty much regard as happy-go-lucky irreponsible morons.

If I were Germany, I'd be considering just moving in and forcing the bastards to work.

[GOBUCKS]

especially the Med countries which they pretty much regard as happy-go-lucky irreponsible morons.

That's true, but Germans regard every other country in the world as irresponsible morons.

[LC EFA]

If I were Germany, I'd be considering just moving in and forcing the bastards to work.

They probably realised that such would be an impossible task and decided to put off the invasion until a few more gleeks snuff it on their own accord.

[Chris_]

That's true, but Germans regard every other country in the world as irresponsible morons.

Can you blame them?

[obumazombie]

Can you blame them?

What would Rick Flair say ?

[USA4ME]

I won`t pretend to know all the ins and outs of European economic and social(ist) society but is it fair to say they have been allowed to dabble in what they have for far too long because of American subsidies regarding our defense shield.

Too true.  Given that statement, you know a lot more than most do.

Take away the military defense the USA provides Western Europe and they wouldn't have the money to fund these social programs.  Same with Canada.  They'd either have to start shifting a bunch of money to their own defense or start learning Russian and/or Chinese.

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[I_B_Perky]

It sad that people will suffer for this.
But Greece will collapse and the fall will be devastating. So will Spain. France will go in a few years.
And the libs will have no one to blame but themselves.

Europe will turn to dictators like they always have. I really don't feel like saving their a$$ again. Sorry.

Well the Greeks are gonna default again. Ain't like it's the first time it's happened.

Greek default history


Spain is probably not too far behind. As to France... well the Germans may finally end up taking them over. They tried twice by military means and failed both times, now they will do it by financial means.

I really don't care what happens to those countries though. What worries me is what is gonna happen here. Shit is gonna hit the fan here sooner or later.

[I_B_Perky]

Too true.  Given that statement, you know a lot more than most do.

Take away the military defense the USA provides Western Europe and they wouldn't have the money to fund these social programs.  Same with Canada.  They'd either have to start shifting a bunch of money to their own defense or start learning Russian and/or Chinese.

.

Well we bailed them out twice already. I guess they have come to expect it.

[LC EFA]

Well we bailed them out twice already. I guess they have come to expect DEMAND it.

FIFY.

[diesel driver]

What would Rick Flair say ?

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!   

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

As far as Greece goes, let it go.  If they are too stupid to even see and acknowledge their problem, let them starve.

(Note to DUmmies:  THIS     is what "voting your best interest" will lead to.  What you gonna do, when the gov goes bust and the checks stop coming?  Think about that.)

[BlueStateSaint]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!   

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

As far as Greece goes, let it go.  If they are too stupid to even see and acknowledge their problem, let them starve.

(Note to DUmmies:  THIS     is what "voting your best interest" will lead to.  What you gonna do, when the gov goes bust and the checks stop coming?  Think about that.)

This is what they'll say they'll do:

 

This is actually what they'll do:

 

Because if they do do this:

 

Here's how we'll react:

 

[wasp69]

It sad that people will suffer for this.
But Greece will collapse and the fall will be devastating. So will Spain. France will go in a few years.
And the libs will have no one to blame but themselves.

Europe will turn to dictators like they always have. I really don't feel like saving their a$$ again. Sorry.

Oh, we'll be back there, make no mistake.  More spent in treasure, blood, sons and daughters for the feckless Europeans and their craven selfishness.

[FlaGator]

I think these socialist countries should buy in to their own social evolutionary beliefs and display a 'survival of the fittest' mentality.

[DumbAss Tanker]

That's true, but Germans regard every other country in the world as irresponsible morons.

Not without good cause, as far as almost everything else between the Urals and the Atlantic Ocean is concerned.

[obumazombie]

Not without good cause, as far as almost everything else between the Urals and the Atlantic Ocean is concerned.

That almost sounded salacious.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I could go there too...

[diesel driver]

This is what they'll say they'll do:

 

This is actually what they'll do:

 

Because if they do do this:

 

Here's how we'll react:

 

Amen to that!